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I can't hate. If I were an NBA player I would probably do similar ridiculous things. I don't know how Seriously Evan Turner takes himself. But it's cool so long as he's not like legit serious about it.
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I feel like the Pelicans might be good. They need another guard piece. Chalmers would do wonders.
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Evan Turner is the funniest NBA player by a wide margin
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Jota posted:There are so many good guards coming out this year that I find it interesting that it seems like Sixers fans online have fallen in love with Frank Ntilikina, who I don't think any have ever actually seen play basketball. WINGSPAN
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Dexo posted:I can't hate. If I were an NBA player I would probably do similar ridiculous things. straight up brolic posted:Evan Turner is the funniest NBA player by a wide margin Yep. l love him Also I don't think it's that he doesn't take himself seriously, he takes himself so seriously that it crosses back into endearing
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Mozgov is at -0.4 VORP, Deng -0.1 paying combined $34m/yr for these guys (wrong side of age 30) to be sub-replacement until they come off the books in summer 2020 will always be bad
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It's not only sixer fans, knicks fans have also fallen in love with him because hey euros have only brought us good luck so far right!
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I think it's better to just sign fringe NBA guys to Hinkie Specials (four years w/ one year guaranteed) than to commit $15m+/year for 4 years to aging replacement level guys. Even if you prefer Mozgov and Deng for "stealth tank" purposes 4 years seems like a serious overextension. Those guys will be weighing you down when your young players start maturing. And honestly I think they could just sign any rear end in a top hat out of the d-league to put up Mozgov level production. I don't think those contracts are criminal enough to get guys who have been good stewards of the franchise fired but they were both awful signings.
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I think it's possible that Mozgov and Deng are bad signings and that Kupchak was a very good GM with an unassailable track record on the whole. They wanted good culture guys and good basketball players to go with the team. There's a limited quantity of them in the league, but Kupchak only fulfilled one condition
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These players all signed contracts last off season, all but one them signed a contract larger than 50 mil Player A: 6.5 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 1.6 apg, 35% FG, 27% 3PT Player B: 8.6 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.4 apg, 39% FG, 37% 3PT Player C: 6.1 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 1.0 apg, 53% FG, 0% 3PT Player D: 2.4 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.0 apg, 37% FG, 0% 3PT Player E: 2.6 pgg, 1.9 rpg, 0.5 apg, 48% FG, 0% 3PT Guess who they are
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Jota posted:There are so many good guards coming out this year that I find it interesting that it seems like Sixers fans online have fallen in love with Frank Ntilikina, who I don't think any have ever actually seen play basketball. I've watched every minute that I can of him. I recommend watching the FIBA 18 and under tournament from December. Great length and defense, good shooter, and has learned the P+R very well for someone his age. For the Sixers I have him third behind Fultz and Jackson. I had Smith above him until the last 4-6 weeks; I've watched Smith play no defense in multiple games and even quit on his team during one game (a full on Pippen-esque refusal to go back into a game).
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im all in on shaking up this low ceiling pistons team, time to check out some drummond trade proposals. okay im back, turns out we can get amir johnson if we also throw in stanley johnson, the celtics and their fans are dope and im glad to have them around in these trying times
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Please stop saying mean things about Timid Timo. He is a toddler in the body of a giant
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AggressivelyStupid posted:Please stop saying mean things about Timid Timo. He is a toddler in the body of a giant  get this weak stuff out ov herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqiJOPXpksc
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Fast Luck posted:I think it's better to just sign fringe NBA guys to Hinkie Specials (four years w/ one year guaranteed) than to commit $15m+/year for 4 years to aging replacement level guys. Even if you prefer Mozgov and Deng for "stealth tank" purposes 4 years seems like a serious overextension. Those guys will be weighing you down when your young players start maturing. And honestly I think they could just sign any rear end in a top hat out of the d-league to put up Mozgov level production. I don't think those contracts are criminal enough to get guys who have been good stewards of the franchise fired but they were both awful signings. The Lakers already did the whole "sign fringe guys" thing and just couldn't even run an NBA offense. A lot of that was Byron Scott, for sure, but when you're starting Robert Sacre and making Lou Williams play small forward it doesn't exactly make executing an offense that easy (if you know anything about the Princeton offense, ask yourself how many times you saw the Lakers successfully execute something that looked like that over the last two years). For a team that's attempting to develop a lot of young players, they needed guys with base level competence around them to allow them to have at least some shot. And again, if they need to get out of paying the last two years of that contract (or at least have them count against their cap) they can do that.
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This thread is being very mean to my hairy shouldered son
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Bush Did Outer Heaven posted:https://twitter.com/bball_ref/status/834167091083300866 *extremely Vivek voice* Ah yes but that is now. But you see he has. Steph. Curry. Potential.
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For the record, I loved the Kobe farewell tour. You gave your legend a huge payday he earned over his career, built up goodwill, fans bought tickets, you didn't get any pesky wins that hurt your draft position, young players got to see what you get if you stick with the franchise. It was awesome. Kupchak should get an award for that.
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There's probably plenty of room on the Pels bandwagon. I've already accepted that the Knicks are going to squander Porzingis's peak years so I'm moving to something more interesting!
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I feel better about my positive Pelicans sentiments in Zogo's pre-season poll. I was just half a season off!
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Spoeank posted:*extremely Vivek voice* Defensive potential, clearly
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AggressivelyStupid posted:Defensive potential, clearly Posts 15 page argument by coach nick stating how steph is an elite defender
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AggressivelyStupid posted:Please stop saying mean things about Timid Timo. He is a toddler in the body of a giant id do almost anything to get him back
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chunkles posted:What if they were refusing to do some horrendous move watch out thibs, might have some competition for rose here i just hope magic thinks that corey brewer is a future Hall of Famer
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Redgrendel2001 posted:Great length and defense, good shooter, and has learned the P+R very well for someone his age. This is the biggest reason I'm so high on him. Obviously Fultz is in a class of his own, but if I had to select 2 other prospects it would probably be Frank and Isaac for their 3 & D potential 
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chunkles posted:Also this week: Morey needs breast reduction surgery Breast implants.  The Glumslinger posted:Huh, I could have sworn Lillard was a much better 3 point shooter than he actually is In the first couple of months he was one of the best shooters in the whole league but in recent months he's slowed down. Lockback posted:By any metric he's a positive player and he's making 13 mil a year. He has trouble scoring, but his team is better with him on the floor. Negative DBPM. Punishment: shipment to NYK.
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I honestly believe Magic will be a great GM. He's a savvy businessman and has a poo poo ton of positive connections in the league. Unless he's a dumb basketball mind, which I don't think he is, he'll probably do a lot better than Vlade.
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Dejan Bimble posted:Jaycee Caroll plays for Real Madrid now! Pretty good 3P shooter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiMNPTXEmPM The Glumslinger posted:Oh, and Magic was the guy who was insistent that Lakers hire Byron and kept beating the drum about it It would be very cool if Byron was rehired and Kobe came out of retirement. Lockback posted:For the record, I loved the Kobe farewell tour. You gave your legend a huge payday he earned over his career, built up goodwill, fans bought tickets, you didn't get any pesky wins that hurt your draft position, young players got to see what you get if you stick with the franchise. It was awesome. Kupchak should get an award for that. If it was so awesome maybe they should've kept Kobe on tour for a few more years. Heh...
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I really hope this doesn't gently caress up the Rockets relations with Harden/Gordon somehow I wonder why someone would quit being an agent to do GMing stuff. Isn't that a big financial downgrade? Not to mention statistically you'll be fired in five years and all your clients will have moved on
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IcePhoenix posted:https://twitter.com/Gibberman10/status/833892655650070528 Paul Zuvella posted:It will be a beautiful team. A big, huge, beautiful team. And the Clippers WILL pay for it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bWyhj7siEY attackmole posted:...anecdotally feels like its went from playing a token pickup basketball level of defense to just kind of standing out of the way and taking turns chucking/throwing dunks. The way it was Sunday night they should've had one guy on D just to inbound the ball and four guys under the basket ready to score.
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Carlosologist posted:There's probably plenty of room on the Pels bandwagon. I've already accepted that the Knicks are going to squander Porzingis's peak years so I'm moving to something more interesting! We welcome pretty much anyone. Not the most discerning fanbase anyhow.
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Doltos posted:I honestly believe Magic will be a great GM. He's a savvy businessman and has a poo poo ton of positive connections in the league. Unless he's a dumb basketball mind, which I don't think he is, he'll probably do a lot better than Vlade. Stolen from reddit, and this isn't even a comprehensive list 
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