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XMNN posted:you know he's the president of the united states right  No way?!
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Toadvine posted:Swing voters are mostly myth. What are you basing that on? Not saying you're wrong just curious.
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Feb 21, 2017 19:48
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Toadvine posted:This isn't a winning strategy if they don't have someone of their own who can motivate a large chunk of those who stay home on election day for lack of a candidate worth supporting. All the people who voted for Trump are reliably republican and won't be swayed. Swing voters are mostly myth. I'm not saying their plan will succeed at all. It's not a winning strategy I know, but I'm not confident that the DNC will budge an inch or learn anything from the Hillary debacle.
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Feb 21, 2017 19:49
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Ain't nobody got time to organize and campaign for local politics when we have to work to pay for the college loans we used to get the job we needed to buy the computer parts for the video games we play.
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Feb 21, 2017 19:52
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as a young swing voter I'm offended that people itt think I don't exist and won't vote during the midterms.
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Feb 21, 2017 19:55
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:
yep i know he acts a lot like a crazy homeless person but he's actually the most powerful man on earth lol
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Feb 21, 2017 19:57
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a bone to pick posted:as a young swing voter I'm offended that people itt think I don't exist and won't vote during the midterms. Young Vote Swingers Looking to Caucus in Your Area Tonight
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Moridin920 posted:What are you basing that on? http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/research/unpublished/swing_voters.pdf It's a pdf and I'm phone posting otherwise I'd pull out choice bits. but it makes an interesting case that poll fluctuations are over interpreted to mean changes in voter attitudes (a satisfying narrative) when it more likely indicates a sample selection bias
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Feb 21, 2017 20:02
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thathonkey posted:haha the trumpers are uncomfortable with the crazy they tacitly support being thrown in their face Your perpetual meltdown is epic. GREAT SATAN posted:I'm not even a Trump voter I just think the Democratic Party has gone to absolute poo poo. 
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Feb 21, 2017 20:05
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King Vidiot posted:Young Vote Swingers Looking to Caucus in Your Area Tonight This used to be such a nice neighborhood. 
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Feb 21, 2017 21:26
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Any party that tries to win an election solely on the basis of "well at least we aren't THAT guy" deserves to lose and crumble. Its okay to pepper it here and there among legitimate reasons as to why i should get off my rear end and vote for you but the entire hillary campaign was reliant on condescending smirks and eye rolls towards the opponent. Trump won because democrats stayed home. They were given no compelling reason to vote for their candidate. If they repeat the same strategy the white house is going to be painted gold after midterms.
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Feb 21, 2017 22:52
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Toadvine posted:http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/research/unpublished/swing_voters.pdf "swing voters don't exist because we can't find any" is a pretty lol conclusion to make in a study trying to explain this as sample selection bias lmao also this seems to be talking about polls rather than the elections themselves i have only read the intro tho
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Feb 21, 2017 22:55
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SBJ posted:Trump won because democrats stayed home. They were given no compelling reason to vote for their candidate. having your registration purged in a national orchestrated campaign to disenfranchise voters is certainly compulsion
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Feb 21, 2017 22:57
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SBJ posted:Any party that tries to win an election solely on the basis of "well at least we aren't THAT guy" deserves to lose and crumble. liberals are real bad imho
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Feb 21, 2017 22:57
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so what i'm trying to say is that that pdf study is very likely to be true for polling (as much as you use fancy math sampling 1000 to represent 300 mil is not going to work out v accurately for a heterogeneous population), but with regards to the real election, swing voters may well exist
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Feb 21, 2017 22:59
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SBJ posted:Any party that tries to win an election solely on the basis of "well at least we aren't THAT guy" deserves to lose and crumble. The only people really behind Hillary en masse were rich white ladies
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Feb 21, 2017 23:00
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donald trump can barely string a coherent sentence together and got caught on tape talking about grabbing pussies and clinton still couldnt beat him lol
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Feb 21, 2017 23:05
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is there a good political party?
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Feb 21, 2017 23:06
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XMNN posted:donald trump can barely string a coherent sentence together and got caught on tape talking about grabbing pussies and clinton still couldnt beat him https://twitter.com/wokieleaks1/status/834121028737572866
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Feb 21, 2017 23:06
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XMNN posted:donald trump can barely string a coherent sentence together and got caught on tape talking about grabbing pussies and clinton still couldnt beat him Also she had: 1 billion dollars from Wall Street and basically the entire media, plus Obama and all of Hollywood
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Feb 21, 2017 23:06
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Also she had: 1 billion dollars from Wall Street and basically the entire media, plus Obama and all of Hollywood When Obama was elected, she put her quarter on the desk in the Oval Office and said "Yo, I got next". In the country, we respect the rules of the arcade.
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Feb 21, 2017 23:11
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Pawn 17 posted:When Obama was elected, she put her quarter on the desk in the Oval Office and said "Yo, I got next". In the country, we respect the rules of the arcade. She literally had the world's biggest music stars performing concerts for her and Trump had.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRfP_TEQ-g
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Feb 21, 2017 23:14
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:She literally had the world's biggest music stars performing concerts for her and Trump had.. 
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Feb 21, 2017 23:19
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:
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Feb 22, 2017 00:03
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Also she had: 1 billion dollars from Wall Street and basically the entire media, plus Obama and all of Hollywood  that face disenfranchised millions of fence sitters
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Feb 22, 2017 00:11
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Not everyone can have as lovable a face as the Donald.
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Feb 22, 2017 00:15
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Hillary kept collapsing and having seizures and the news called it a conspiracy lmao
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Feb 22, 2017 00:24
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King Vidiot posted:I'm not saying their plan will succeed at all. It's not a winning strategy I know, but I'm not confident that the DNC will budge an inch or learn anything from the Hillary debacle. The Democratic party as a whole is a dead entity, full stop. The "official" one anyways, it's gangrenous and rotten to the core and can only continue to double down on shrill screaming in order to hemorrhage even more votes
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T.S. Smelliot posted:The Democratic party as a whole is a dead entity, full stop. The "official" one anyways, it's gangrenous and rotten to the core and can only continue to double down on shrill screaming in order to hemorrhage even more votes Yeah just like the Republican party the last time they lost a presidential election.
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T.S. Smelliot posted:The Democratic party as a whole is a dead entity, full stop. The "official" one anyways, it's gangrenous and rotten to the core and can only continue to double down on shrill screaming in order to hemorrhage even more votes I'm gonna hold off on agreeing with you until after Saturday when they vote for a new chair
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Feb 22, 2017 00:41
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two party system lol
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T.S. Smelliot posted:The Democratic party as a whole is a dead entity, full stop. The "official" one anyways, it's gangrenous and rotten to the core and can only continue to double down on shrill screaming in order to hemorrhage even more votes people were saying this about the GOP for at least the past 4 years pretty much right up until nov 8 2016
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Feb 22, 2017 00:45
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scrubs season six posted:Yeah just like the Republican party the last time they lost a presidential election. lol if you believe it is remotely comparable to the current REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Feb 22, 2017 01:12
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Toadvine posted:I'm gonna hold off on agreeing with you until after Saturday when they vote for a new chair I'm honestly not saying this to be a dick, can you comment after the fact on whether they hosed up just as predictably bad or not?
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Fog Tripper posted:lol if you believe it is remotely comparable to the current REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE The point is that people (including many Republicans) said the exact same poo poo after they got dunked on by Obama (~30 more EC than Don's YUUUUGE victory) for the second time, after they were 100% convinced they were going to blow him out of the water because he was a "lovely president." There was a whole lot of "we gotta go back to the drawing board" type poo poo. Repubs went back to the drawing board and found Trump, who was elected by virtue of running against one of the most disliked, most establishment, most baggage laden candidates in history. Did the Dems gently caress up? Obviously. Does one bad presidential candidate mean the party is dead? Get a clue, retards. The lovely R candidate beat the lovely D candidate by the smallest non-W margin of victory in 40 years, and got reamed in the popular vote.
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Feb 22, 2017 01:25
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T.S. Smelliot posted:I'm honestly not saying this to be a dick, can you comment after the fact on whether they hosed up just as predictably bad or not? Not sure I understand, you want me to weigh in after the vote to reflect on whether they behaved as stupidly as you and I expect they will? Because if so, absolutely. The chair vote will determine whether the party is at the very least willing to pay lip service to the left wing of the party (can't be worse than their behavior last year) or stay the course
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if the dems stay the course i would think trump will be reelected but im not that smart maybe they are smarter than me
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:She literally had the world's biggest music stars performing concerts for her and Trump had.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC-W2Mbu0OQ
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i hope bernies policies are adopted at least a tiny (nanoscopic) bit, i also hope the hardcore marxists and commies get shat on hard
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