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an AOL chatroom posted:I don't know if this has been brought up on the show, but there's a new podcast called Missing Richard Simmons, all about how he disappeared from the face of the earth three years ago, and what lead up to it. I'm only a few minutes into the first episode now, but it's *real* interesting. Hoping the rest of the episodes are just as good. Any chance of a 'tl:dr' for this? I don't necessarily want to listen to a podcast about it, but it definitely seems like an odd situation.
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Sand Monster posted:Any chance of a 'tl:dr' for this? I don't necessarily want to listen to a podcast about it, but it definitely seems like an odd situation. My recollection of it (the story not the podcast) is his housekeeper is basically gaslighting him and holding him hostage. She worked her way in and at some point I guess she thought if Richard worked away from her that her meal ticket and future would likely vanish. I'm sure she's in Richard's will so she's trying to make sure she stays there I'm sure.
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:I get the feeling Artie is in enough control to where he only strikes out at people who can't really hurt his career. A former MADTV castmember is one thing, but a well-known director/producer would mean Artie is ready to die or something. Like Sam Simon? Sand Monster posted:Any chance of a 'tl:dr' for this? I don't necessarily want to listen to a podcast about it, but it definitely seems like an odd situation. Only one episode has dropped so far. The guy doing it was a friend of Richard's and it sounds like the podcast as a way of trying to get more info or at least a reply from Richard. In this episode they go into his history a bit and explain about how social he used to be. One example is how he'd go out and meet bus loads of tourists who would take those Hollywood Homes tours. They play a few of his last interview and remark about how sad and lonely he seemed. Some people report that he started showing up in full drag, other say his much loved dog died. Some think he just wants time to himself to reflect on life. There have been rumors that he may have transitioned or in the process or doing so. His housekeeper/best friend has also been very adamant about not allowing anyone to visit or speak to Richard and they think that his person may be stealing money.
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Johny-on-the-Spot posted:Did anyone else watch Crashing? I thought Artie was pretty good in it. Judd did a good job keeping Artie in check, and I'm looking forward to the next episode. Yeah I thought it was overall good and Artie pretty much played himself and told stories so it was kinda hard to gently caress up. Hi I am looking for Bob.. Bob A. Booey. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn9oXFt5jn4 Mr Lance Murdock fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Feb 21, 2017 |
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Mr Lance Murdock posted:Hi I am looking for Bob.. This is one of my favorite old bits. "Hey Bob! Bob on this!"
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Mr Lance Murdock posted:Yeah I thought it was overall good and Artie pretty much played himself and told stories so it was kinda hard to gently caress up. I love this clip because it does a perfect job of capturing the energy that made the show great: a room full of "adults" giggling like 5 year olds over a bunch of prank calls. Also they only started pranking Gary because they couldn't get ahold of anyone else 
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Artie's on the new HBO show Crashing, I enjoyed him in the 1st episode.
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Greg Fitzsimmons podcast interviewed Appatos and that other guy involved in crashing and said Artie was nothing but professional and great for the role in his latest show. Of course it's Hollywood dudes doing the standard "I love everyone and everything about my product!" talk but it seemed genuine.
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GobiasIndustries posted:Artie's on the new HBO show Crashing, I enjoyed him in the 1st episode. Yup, first episode was good and Artie was solid. My wife is not a Stern fan (and would not be an Artie fan if she knew some things about him) and thought he was hilarious.
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cumshitter posted:Greg Fitzsimmons podcast interviewed Appatos and that other guy involved in crashing and said Artie was nothing but professional and great for the role in his latest show. The guys/gals involved ARE great, but this sort of thing is in abundance with the Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul podcasts. I love you Vince and Co, but goddamn 
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The embedded thing that Wolfie did with Wendy recently was fascinating. What a life.
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I'm surprised she doesn't look worse considering her lifestyle consists of no exercise, eating 780 Eggo waffles a day, and getting raped for crying out loud.
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OK, so a friend of mine owns a pizza shop, and he just had to fire this Southie kid for heroin. No OD, nothing dramatic, just some security camera footage of the kid nodding off while (lethargically) stretching out some pizza dough. At one point he is standing at the pizza bench, and almost does a slow faceplant into the dough. While a customer watches through the glass. The camera footage is loving disturbing. gently caress Stern for having Artie do that right in front of him and ignoring it. euphronius posted:She walks everywhere so she does get some exercise I guess . Yeah, sounds like she is out and about quite a bit. If only to get more food. Wolfie's description of that meat dumpster made me want to vomit.
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Squashy Nipples posted:OK, so a friend of mine owns a pizza shop, and he just had to fire this Southie kid for heroin. No OD, nothing dramatic, just some security camera footage of the kid nodding off while (lethargically) stretching out some pizza dough. At one point he is standing at the pizza bench, and almost does a slow faceplant into the dough. While a customer watches through the glass. Are you blaming Howard for Artie nodding off? You realize doing drugs was Artie's doing right? The pizza shop owner is better because he fired the kid? I don't get the point?
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Feb 23, 2017 14:36
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I think he means Howard shouldn't have turned it into a bit for the show
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Moniker posted:Are you blaming Howard for Artie nodding off? You realize doing drugs was Artie's doing right? The pizza shop owner is better because he fired the kid? I don't get the point? He's saying Howard was an enabler. He positively reinforced the addict behavior because he didn't want to deal with getting Artie off the show because his addiction got in the way of him as a performer. I'm not remotely blaming Howard for Artie's problems or anything of the sort but he wasn't some bystander here, he played a major role in Artie's life and he should have, at the least, told Artie he didn't approve of what he was doing and that his behavior was negatively affecting the show. If Artie keeps using and ignores the opinions of his friends and co-workers then that's that but at least they took a stand on it. Howard made him go lie down in a makeshift bed and made comedy out of it. It wasn't a good look.
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haljordan posted:I think he means Howard shouldn't have turned it into a bit for the show Yeah, and when it got really bad, he just ignored it. Afterwards, he always feigned innocence with various claims of "I didn't know". My point was that this is obvious behavior that is impossible to ignore, it's a human being disintegrating right in front of you. If it was so obvious on a five-minute security tape, it must have been super obvious when the dude was sitting 6 feet away for 5 hours a day.
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Yeah but Artie nodding off and snoring during the Kathy Griffin interview was amazing
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Mr Lance Murdock posted:Yeah but Artie nodding off and snoring during the Kathy Griffin interview was amazing You don't need to be on drugs in this particular case.
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I swear I'm not on heroin. It's these drat cupcake Wednesdays.
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Squashy Nipples posted:OK, so a friend of mine owns a pizza shop What the hell, man? Pitsarea. I think you need traction.
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Yeah, he buys frozen dough balls, though, so there is no danger of having the store stink up the neighborhood in the morning, because Sal left some of the dough out.
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Crotch Bat posted:He's saying Howard was an enabler. He positively reinforced the addict behavior because he didn't want to deal with getting Artie off the show because his addiction got in the way of him as a performer. Howard wasn't going to break Artie out of any habit, but it would have been better for everybody involved if Artie faced some real consequences for it. By the time he finally got fired he was getting really bad. But, water under the bridge at this point. The only one who seems to really care is Artie, and he's doing it so he can keep doing what he's been doing for life until he finally dies. It is interesting to see think that maybe this whole Marci Turk thing came about, in a way, because of Artie. Howard needs to run a show but also needs to keep everybody intact for the show, so turn it into a corporate environment with everything that entails.
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:Howard wasn't going to break Artie out of any habit, but it would have been better for everybody involved if Artie faced some real consequences for it. By the time he finally got fired he was getting really bad. Oh for sure, I'm just saying it would have been nice to give him an ultimatum or something so at least it looks like effort was given.
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Squashy Nipples posted:Yeah, he buys frozen dough balls, though, so there is no danger of having the store stink up the neighborhood in the morning, because Sal left some of the dough out. I worked at pizza place for a few months, fresh dough isn't that hard to make. Anyway, speaking of heroin users, we had a girl doing all of our client billing at a consulting company I worked for. One day the cops show up wanting to see some of our records. Turns out she was copying down customer's credit card info and running it through the machine at a diner she worked at on the weekends and was using the money to fund her and her boyfriend's smack habit. I think they may have arrested her at her house but we processed her termination right away. About a week later we were clearing our her office and saw she had about 10 voice mails. Thinking they may be from clients we decided to listen to them and they were all from her father wondering why she hasn't called him back in a few days. Last I heard she's clean now and has a kid but lost most of her eyesight from diabetes.
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Didn't they pay for rehab for him - multiple times? If I recall correctly he lied about going and went gambling instead. He also lied multiple times about seeing a therapist. If you remember he came clean about his heroin use early on, where the entire staff hugged Artie and offered support and showed genuine sympathy, which he in turn threw in the trash. poo poo, even when Artie kept using, Howard did stuff like host a private party at an Italian restaurant for Artie's birthday to show him that people still cared and loved him... Remember, Artie's gonna do what Artie's gonna do, and it turns out that means he's going to live life as a junkie loser. It's true the guy was definitely nodding on air and used as entertainment but poo poo he was getting a drat good salary and if he wasn't going to crack jokes might as well use him for something. The Howard Stern show has goofed on, used, and drat near exploited freaks and weirdos for 30 years. Artie rapidly transitioned from cast member to violent, junkie weirdo. Par for the course. Hell I think Artie should go back to his sleeping on the couch routine, it's funnier than anything I've heard from him in 5 years.
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:It is interesting to see think that maybe this whole Marci Turk thing came about, in a way, because of Artie. Howard needs to run a show but also needs to keep everybody intact for the show, so turn it into a corporate environment with everything that entails. It didn't help that Tim Sabean seemed less than equipped for this aspect of the job. And then there are those rumors about Tim himself...
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Crotch Bat posted:Oh for sure, I'm just saying it would have been nice to give him an ultimatum or something so at least it looks like effort was given. Oh, I agree completely. I think I misspoke. kylej posted:Didn't they pay for rehab for him - multiple times? If I recall correctly he lied about going and went gambling instead. He also lied multiple times about seeing a therapist. If you remember he came clean about his heroin use early on, where the entire staff hugged Artie and offered support and showed genuine sympathy, which he in turn threw in the trash. poo poo, even when Artie kept using, Howard did stuff like host a private party at an Italian restaurant for Artie's birthday to show him that people still cared and loved him... At this point the only thing left in Artie's life is death. He looks horrible and he's far beyond the point of anybody going into his orbit that would put up with him to help him recover. Even if he does recover somehow (which would mean his family is dead), any attempt back to sobriety would have to deal with the stress he's put on his body for so long. He would only recover to basically live in pain and eventually die earlier than he would have normally, which would probably be used as fuel to keep him using. And speaking of users beyond help.... Sand Monster posted:It didn't help that Tim Sabean seemed less than equipped for this aspect of the job. And then there are those rumors about Tim himself... I don't think Sirius puts their best management with talk shows, honestly. Not to cross streams, but Sirius had a time of dealing with Fez Whatley when he finally went nuts and stopped working and it took a few years for them to can him as well. Oddly enough, Tim was part of that for a short time, but it's not like management got any better when Tim was eventually fired anyway. Sirius management just really sucks.
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Was listening to random clips and this is so crystal clear it just hit me like a truck. Howard flat out spells out why his future remake into PG-rated squeaky clean radio personality happened. Spoiler alert: it's exactly what others have accused him of i.e. jealousy of main stream celebs. https://youtu.be/XbLpT8Xrz2Q?t=10m2s The pertinent part is at 10:02 but go back a few minutes to get the whole scope of it if you want.
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an adult beverage posted:Jesus Christ, Wendy is only 37 years old... Jesus, she needs to stay out of the sun, that's a terrible sun burn she has.
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Crotch Bat posted:Was listening to random clips and this is so crystal clear it just hit me like a truck. Howard flat out spells out why his future remake into PG-rated squeaky clean radio personality happened. Spoiler alert: it's exactly what others have accused him of i.e. jealousy of main stream celebs. When is this clip from? Edit: Eh, nevermind, probably around 2001-2003; Artie is in studio, John is still there. Sand Monster fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Feb 23, 2017 |
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I think the sad thing is that if Artie just hit rock bottom and went to rehab there's such a great chance he'd be able to find some closure about the Stern show. I don't think you have to be a psychologist to see how much it hurts him to have burned those bridges and it must be hard to accept that he's not getting that back. Instead of lashing out and calling Marci Turk a oval office or complaining how Jimmy Kimmel turned Howard into a snob he could be living amends and just be happy instead of caught in the past. It's pretty hosed up, Artie was great on the show but now we're just watching a slow march towards a lovely ending.
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Remember that Artie bribed a doctor to sign off on his rehab so that he could get insured and film Beer League. Even at the best rehab facilities he's incurable because I don't think he wants to get better.
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