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That Robot posted:you've got some terrible opinions duder  I mean, what part do you disagree with
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TheIllestVillain posted:wasnt weed criminalised in the first place cause it was "black thing" Actually just to be a nitpicky bitch; it was originally criminalized because it was a "Mexican" thing, as in migrant workers from South of the border would smoke it and the white folks were looking for reasons to poo poo on them so it became "the brown people smoke reefer which makes them crazy murder rapists!" The "black musicians are luring your kids with drugs and Satan" stuff came later. frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:If you really wanted to, there's a decent argument that white people with weed is a strong display of privilege considering how little trouble they'd get into if caught compared to say...a black person. Yea. Crack + cocaine are the same way. really queer Christmas posted:A lot of drug laws were written 100+ years ago and were most definitely racially motivated. There's a reason a large portion of the black male population is behind bars on drug charges. You could make the argument that even relatively recent drug laws are pretty much racially motivated and just a way to keep prisons full of cheap labor with people that society at large isn't going to give a poo poo about. Haven't heard a single Republican decry the competition the average American worker has to deal with from prison labor. Outsourcing they'll talk about all day but when companies get stuff from prison manufacturing paying out $1 or less an hour... nothing. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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Feb 22, 2017 19:49
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Weed was criminalized for the same reason it remains criminal - to strengthen the power of the state and to control the population. It was a politically motivated decision substance that relaxes people and makes them more likely to tolerate poo poo banned by government in attempt at controlling population, says renowned local poster very seriously
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:
lol i am dead this is hell
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:substance that relaxes people and makes them more likely to tolerate poo poo banned by government in attempt at controlling population, says renowned local poster very seriously Uh, it is. quote:The demonization of the cannabis plant was an extension of the demonization of the Mexican immigrants. In an effort to control and keep tabs on these new citizens, El Paso, TX borrowed a play from San Francisco’s playbook, which had outlawed opium decades earlier in an effort to control Chinese immigrants. The idea was to have an excuse to search, detain and deport Mexican immigrants.
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what... is... this... feeling. agreeing with SPH. Oh, it burns.
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fyodor posted:lol i am dead this is hell
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Our drug policy is designed to keep minorities in prisons for profit. I feel like that much is obvious since that's the only thing our drug policy is actually good at doing regardless of all the rhetoric around it. Of course it is a tool of population control; just look at the communities devastated by our policies. quote:I'm not guilty. You're the one that's guilty. The lawmakers, the politicians, the Columbian drug lords, all you who lobby against making drugs legal. Just like you did with alcohol during the prohibition. You're the one who's guilty. I mean, c'mon, let's kick the ballistics here: Ain't no Uzi's made in Harlem. Not one of us in here owns a poppy field. This thing is bigger than Nino Brown. This is big business. This is the American way.
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Moridin920 posted:
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Moridin920 posted:Our drug policy is designed to keep minorities in prisons for profit. This, plus it is a way to warehouse surplus manpower. It's the ravages of globalization - take away their factory jobs, turn them into criminals, and then lock them up so they can't fight back
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also fyi but the oldest archaeological find of psychoactive marijuana was in the tomb of a shaman who was a member of the yuezhi who were an ancient group of whites in western china so until something older is dug up it's apparently cultural appropriation from whites . that is if i gave a poo poo about that sort of thing 
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rezatahs posted:also fyi but the oldest archaeological find of psychoactive marijuana was in the tomb of a shaman who was a member of the yuezhi who were an ancient group of whites in western china so until something older is dug up it's apparently cultural appropriation from whites . weed is very much something white people are into i dont know if you heard about this
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It was criminalized because hemp threatened the cotton and textiles industries. The justifications given to the public were racially motivated.
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Juan Carlos III posted:It was criminalized because hemp threatened the cotton and textiles industries. but hemp isn't marijuana 
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Juan Carlos III posted:It was DONE because MONEY Just follow this pattern for all reality and things make more sense
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Just follow this pattern for all reality and things make more sense dude what are you doing you are breaking character with this reasonableness.
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fyodor posted:dude what are you doing you are breaking character with this reasonableness. I've always been reasonable, there's just separate information flows right now so everyone is in their own little reality, the internet is a huge propaganda mill
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fyodor posted:weed is very much something white people are into i dont know if you heard about this hmmm i will have to do more research
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:I've always been reasonable, there's just separate information flows right now so everyone is in their own little reality, the internet is a huge propaganda mill being anti-corporate prison system is woefully off-message, eia alala!
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Prison labor should only exist as far as training inmates for their release. These companies that use prison labor should be forced to hire a percentage of inmates from those facilities upon release. I think I heard of some Alaskan prison that did training for underwater welders, and on release they started making 80-90k and their recidivism rate was 0
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fyodor posted:being anti-corporate prison system is woefully off-message, eia alala! believe it or not people don't fit in the narrow political spectrum like you think they do
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Prison labor should only exist as far as training inmates for their release. These companies that use prison labor should be forced to hire a percentage of inmates from those facilities upon release. imo prison labor is fine as long as 100% of it is just for upkeep of the facility or for training like you said. I don't have a problem with prisoners doing the electrical work in the prison as part of jobs training as opposed to hiring out for an electrician or stuff like that. But yeah a lot of prison labor isn't even useful job training; it is low skill work assembling uniforms/clothes on a line and poo poo.
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having prisoners work on the prison's electrical system? what could go wrong! *12AM all the cell doors open at the same time*
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Moridin920 posted:imo prison labor is fine as long as 100% of it is just for upkeep of the facility or for training like you said. I don't have a problem with prisoners doing the electrical work in the prison as part of jobs training as opposed to hiring out for an electrician or stuff like that. In some prisons in Alabama the labor is literally picking cotton.
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WatermelonGun posted:In some prisons in Alabama the labor is literally picking cotton. Meanwhile what we really need to be mad about is some guy saying things on the internet. Not the literal slavery going on in the current year, that issue isn't trending. Twitter is hot right now.
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WatermelonGun posted:In some prisons in Alabama the labor is literally picking cotton. lmao we've come a long way in 150 or so years and people wonder why black people riot. poo poo I'd be rioting too.
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a bone to pick posted:believe it or not people don't fit in the narrow political spectrum like you think they do lol
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Things are surely better in Europe and Asia where you have deep hatred for all of your neighbours who are racially the same but have minor cultural differences, which occasionally flares into bloody wars. Racism is inevitable. America youre not doing as bad as you guys think.
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But Trump said it's a mess !
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I dabbled with the College Republicans back in the day and voted for McCain in 2008 until I eventually snapped to the left over basically every policy that isn't guns. Sometimes I wonder if I'd be trying to justify support for Trump or just dehumanizing myself and facing the bloodshed if the blanket GOP opposition to their own policies during the Obama years hadn't put my cognitive dissonance over the top. Other days I just wander off into the woods and hope the angry bear from all the Christian parable parodies this site came up with in its heyday shows up to restore my faith and grant me a merciful and bloody death.
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SpaceGoatFarts posted:But Trump said it's a mess ! someone is doing the raping this raping isn't just raping all by its rape self
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Moridin920 posted:lmao we've come a long way in 150 or so years so you are saying you don't give a poo poo about white people? that's racist
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:so you are saying you don't give a poo poo about white people? that's racist White people as defined by anyone looking Caucasian or white people as defined by ultra-racists who think only W. Europeans are really white? trick question; kill em all let Бог sort em out
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:so you are saying you don't give a poo poo about white people? that's racist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfhEv90Vyn4&t=8s
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Moridin920 posted:lmao we've come a long way in 150 or so years Serious question: what work would be acceptable to you for inmates to perform? Making big rocks into little rocks?
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Fog Tripper posted:Serious question: what work would be acceptable to you for inmates to perform? With Trump's experience in reality TV, he should push a law through to start letting prisoners fight to the death for their freedom on pay-per-view.
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Mammal Sauce posted:With Trump's experience in reality TV, he should push a law through to start letting prisoners fight to the death for their freedom on pay-per-view. Monday Night REHABILITATION!!
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Fog Tripper posted:Serious question: what work would be acceptable to you for inmates to perform? Yea the cotton is a step up from when they made them perform minstrel shows in blackface. Work is work, though, ya know?
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Fog Tripper posted:Serious question: what work would be acceptable to you for inmates to perform? Stuff that gives them marketable skills for when they are released, stuff that is for the maintenance of the prison. Like I have no issue with prisoners working in the kitchen, being janitorial staff, fixing minor plumbing/electrical problems (everyone should know how to change out a wall socket at least), masonry work to maintain/improve prison facilities, stuff like that. Basically nothing that can be sold as labor to an outside company. Prisoners should not be making uniforms for <$1/hr for example. Did you know that the tilapia at Whole Foods sold for like $10-12/lb is raised by prisoners being paid like $0.75 an hour? That's hosed up imo. McDonald's gets a lot of its stuff like uniforms + cutlery from prison labor. Victoria's Secret gets clothing sewn for them. The list goes on and on. AT&T uses prison labor for their call centers, paying less than $2/day. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Feb 23, 2017 |
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Moridin920 posted:Stuff that gives them marketable skills for when they are released, stuff that is for the maintenance of the prison. http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/09/30/444797169/whole-foods-says-it-will-stop-selling-foods-made-by-prisoners loooool
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