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The Management posted:got hit up by a recruiter that sent email to every combination of first and last @ current company. this always gives me such a scummy vibe. should I even deal with someone that's too cheap to pay for linkedin recruiting?
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i get cold calls every day and nothing i can do stops them. for the love of god put a Google voice number on your resume
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qirex posted:one of my friends used to be a recruiter and she was telling me this story about how when she was at a large tech company they moved a manager from sales operations to run recruiting and this new VP decided to set "stretch goals" for the recruiters that were 3x the current number of open reqs. so the recruiters busted their asses, hit the stretch goals and got a bonus but 2/3 of the people they'd "hired" didn't actually have available positions the goog is known for hiring first and "finding a place for you" later. this is pretty good if you're fresh out of college with little practical experience. if you're an experienced professional with an interest in something particular this can be maddening to deal with. speaking of which I have a call with them later today because my normal google recruiter left so I will have to start the conversation over again.
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PokeJoe posted:i get cold calls every day and nothing i can do stops them. for the love of god put a Google voice number on your resume yep. google voice is great for recruiter jail (and hilarious transcriptions)
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Luigi Thirty posted:I have an onsite interview with that place that I did the phone interview for
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jre posted:Ah yes, make your interviewers miss their lunch or stay late. This will definitely ingratiate you to them.
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The Management posted:the goog is known for hiring first and "finding a place for you" later. this is pretty good if you're fresh out of college with little practical experience. if you're an experienced professional with an interest in something particular this can be maddening to deal with. quote:speaking of which I have a call with them later today because my normal google recruiter left so I will have to start the conversation over again.
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ShadowHawk posted:Or to compensate for a really long recruiting timeline, since by the time you start who knows what headcount will be where. long recruiting pipelines are suicide. hiring generically-qualified people for unknown end positions just means high turnover. and google is the proof in that fuckin pudding. last numbers i saw put average tenure around 1 year
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The Management posted:the goog is known for hiring first and "finding a place for you" later. this is pretty good if you're fresh out of college with little practical experience. if you're an experienced professional with an interest in something particular this can be maddening to deal with. personally i will never interview with el goog ever again i applied to google 3 months before starting my main job search, knowing they take for loving ever. they still didn't field an offer until i had already talked to every other firm i was interested in, solicited offers, accepted, and worked the new job for another month. great job guys.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:personally i will never interview with el goog ever again Like it was late September I decided I needed a job again, started Google process (and Hired.com the same week). Next week I ended up in Hired.com "auction" while doing Google phone interviews, following 2 weeks I was doing on-site hired.com interviews (and Google one). Started getting startup offers from the Hired.com leads, told the Google recruiter the best of them, and then got a Google offer by the second to last week of October. It might have helped that I was interviewing for SRE which is super hard to staff, so maybe the recruiter was a little more tenacious.
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ShadowHawk posted:I did something similar but I told them I was actively interviewing and getting offers and everything sped up a lot faster. are you telling us you work in google's SRE group?
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I interviewed with the goog around a year ago now and I would not be particularly shocked if they offered me a job at any point in the next year
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i had a email from a google recruiter, that i think was from when i used to post on the freebsd mailing ilst, and i panicked. this was when i was still in school so whatever either way
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:and google is the proof in that fuckin pudding. last numbers i saw put average tenure around 1 year anecdata but this really doesn't gel for my experience in eng, like, at all. i could see it as a company-wide average, i guess?
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Axel Rhodes Scholar posted:anecdata but this really doesn't gel for my experience in eng, like, at all. i could see it as a company-wide average, i guess? like, what roles tho? i could buy that for amazon if they counted truck loaders and poo poo in with corp employees, but, what roles in google are there where you hire people with low or new skillsets and burn them? does that happen for code? idk im not a dev
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next time i need to hunt for a job i think i'll rob a bank
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the long standing slashdot meme of 3) profit i can clarify on #2) it's nepotism works every time
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Sniep posted:like, what roles tho? I suspect that a lot of the attrition from google is partially because the day you get hired you start getting 10 times the recruiter spam from people who want to poach google employees. I've heard stories of people with Google offers getting automatic matching offers from other companies without even interviewing.
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what do you do when your very well compensated but bored and intellectually unchallenged at your job? i am trying to get other jobs but no one can match my compensation 😞 i'm dying from ennui
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:what do you do when your very well compensated but bored and intellectually unchallenged at your job? i post in a forum full of bitter computer touchers while i wait for death
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:what do you do when your very well compensated but bored and intellectually unchallenged at your job? i took a 70% paycut and took up an academic position in wine country it is hard to argue with the ease that comes with money not being an issue, but in the end i really was not feeling well at all in my previous job, the boredom rather gave way to some rather harmful patterns
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:what do you do when your very well compensated but bored and intellectually unchallenged at your job? Cold on a Cob posted:i post in a forum full of bitter computer touchers while i wait for death 
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:what do you do when your very well compensated but bored and intellectually unchallenged at your job? what's your skillset + what's your job + what's your comp + what do you want to be doing
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coffeetable posted:what's your skillset + what's your job + what's your comp + what do you want to be doing skillset: bs cs (top 50). not a drooling idiot (just the regular kind). not a raging rear end in a top hat or a creeper. i also do some coding but i've never done so in any official capacity so build systems and deployments are black magic to me. i love to learn things. job: a fancy firewall janitor (9-5, not soc) comp: $150k after taxes + gym + beach club + housing (i don't use it so i get cash) + transportation (don't use it either, so cash) + retention (increases every year) + annual plane tickets + big fat bonus every year (usually around a month's total salary) + retirement contribution + health insurance + some other things i forgot want to do: development. this is literally the job i applied to at my current company before they changed it (the comp was too sweet to say no) i'm not looking for jobs in the pos though. too brown + not willing to travel.
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the phrase bs cs will never not be funny
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FrozenVent posted:the phrase bs cs will never not be funny top 50
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The Management posted:the goog is known for hiring first and "finding a place for you" later. this is pretty good if you're fresh out of college with little practical experience. if you're an experienced professional with an interest in something particular this can be maddening to deal with. This is what keeps me from even bothering to apply, despite my fiance working there and some of our friends. I'd only wanna work on very specific projects on their cloud or maps team, but even within those groups there are plenty of really boring projects. It doesn't strike me as a place where someone can come in start making interesting and creative decisions. Maybe that's for the best, but its something I really enjoy about smaller companies, once you've proven yourself you can really have a say in the direction of the company's technology even if you only have maybe 2-5 years of experience.
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:job: a fancy firewall janitor (9-5, not soc) holy fuckin moley yeah you're probably looking at a healthy pay cut if you switch tracks.
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congrats, you're trapped with golden handcuffs. there is no escape
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:long recruiting pipelines are suicide. hiring generically-qualified people for unknown end positions just means high turnover. I think some people just want the line on their resume
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Bhodi posted:congrats, you're trapped with golden handcuffs. there is no escape lmao that's not golden handcuffs.
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:what do you do when your very well compensated but bored and intellectually unchallenged at your job? you keep looking. in the meantime you try to pick up some skills that make you more valuable to others.
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Save your pennies, retire early, and work on your own poo poo.
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Pay Luigi30 to mentor you on making cool poo poo.
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ShadowHawk posted:Recruiters, maybe. thats fuckin crazy
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after being responsible for everything and designing everything and having a very stressful time of it in general being a small cog in a large machine is starting to sound real good lately especially since i'm such a terrible programmer and keep building poo poo
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a slightly better put together set of handcuffs, possibly made by germans
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PokeJoe posted:Save your pennies, retire early, and work on your own poo poo.
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ShadowHawk posted:I've heard stories of people with Google offers getting automatic matching offers from other companies without even interviewing. I don't believe this at all.
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Sapozhnik posted:being a small cog in a large machine is starting to sound real good lately yeah i played startup for 3 years and being a fungible cog is such a luxury e: have i mentioned the 67% raise? thats v. nice too JawnV6 fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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