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Fuzzy Mammal posted:So what? That's a good thing that lets them make meaningful differences to similar cards. Deathrite would be even better for mana than it is now because you could never lose deathrite battles since you'd still get the "secondary" effect. Fizzle should stay as is
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TheKingofSprings posted:Magic is a silly game http://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=14795&d=289092&f=MO Playing a deck like that tomorrow. The ravangers aren't as good as you might believe. Definitely don't go the affinity route.
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Feb 23, 2017 20:47
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Siivola posted:In case you don't read the daily magic update:  I was hoping it would spontaneously happen but here:If Lilliana crossed her legs, would she cross them like this  or like this 
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Feb 23, 2017 20:49
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Chill la Chill posted:
It seems pretty obvious, that second one looks like her legs are horribly deformed. Again, did people actually debate this?
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The Lord of Hats posted:Spells fizzling is a bit odd, but I think it does lead to some interesting gameplay, like removing your own creatures to deny a secondary effect. I don't think it's particularly hard to wrap your head around. I think removing interesting mechanics to dum-dum the game down is not the direction the game should head. Being able to sac your own creature to counter a spell is a baller move we all should get to experience daily.
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Feb 23, 2017 21:00
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Siivola posted:In case you don't read the daily magic update: this does not look comfy
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 those weren't peacock feathers, but extra sets of eyes
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ThePeavstenator posted:It seems pretty obvious, that second one looks like her legs are horribly deformed. Again, did people actually debate this? Also I think some poses were tried and it was determined you can really position yourself like the art without breaking your foot.
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Feb 23, 2017 21:15
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It turns out people without art backgrounds don't know what the gently caress they're talking about, news at eleven.
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Acquit it, you guys.
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Like I said, comic book spine. The legs look totally normal for someone sitting in a chair and facing off to the right. And then there's a 60 degree rotation so her upper body is facing directly ahead, somehow.
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Whoever posted about EFro deck of the day articles on CFB being terrible was right. I've been checking CFB articles more consistently over the last couple weeks and every single EFro deck of the day article might as well be him just going to mtggoldfish's meta section or mtgTop8's recent events and pasting in the most recent decklist. I remember his Infect article after Gitaxian Probe got banned had people calling out his bad advice and incorrect analysis in the comments.
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ThePeavstenator posted:Whoever posted about EFro deck of the day articles on CFB being terrible was right. I've been checking CFB articles more consistently over the last couple weeks and every single EFro deck of the day article might as well be him just going to mtggoldfish's meta section or mtgTop8's recent events and pasting in the most recent decklist. I remember his Infect article after Gitaxian Probe got banned had people calling out his bad advice and incorrect analysis in the comments. That was me. I loath efro as a magic personality and as a person more than one person should. His content is lazy and almost worthless outside of pointing out new decks that people might like. I get the impression that either he is really that lazy or he believes that he can't keep an edge if he writes decent articles.
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When I tried listening to Constructed Resources for a bit I got the impression he was just sick/bored of Magic. Like Marshall asks him "So are you going to tune into my coverage of [some standard GP]?" or something and EFro says, "I doubt it." And just checking on CR since I haven't in a while it looks like it hasn't come out since October. Is it done? Hiatus?
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Efro is a literal millionaire so when he doesn't want to care about Magic he probably doesn't, because he's too busy getting married and dealing with all that entails.
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CR was off and on for quite a bit and never really seemed to find its footing. It turns out Constructed is actually way more difficult to analyze with the same depth and quality they do for Limited on LR, and it doesn't help that Marshall just isn't a hardcore Constructed player, and his co-hosts so far have been people who are bored/disillusioned with Magic in general andact like they don't want to be there and leave all the heavy-lifting to Marshall. I pretty much gave up on it after a few episodes with EFro because he's just awful to listen to when he talks at all.
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GonSmithe posted:Efro is a literal millionaire so when he doesn't want to care about Magic he probably doesn't, because he's too busy getting married and dealing with all that entails. You're assuming Efro hasn't spent all of his money, which gamblers have a tendency to do. I mean, I guess I just don't have a lot of faith that people that think that playing Magic professionally is a good idea and/or professionally gamble are likely to make super wise monetary investments. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Feb 23, 2017 |
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Bonus posted:I remember MaRo saying somewhere that he would prefer spells not to fizzle when their targets are illegal, but just to do as much as possible. And that it's a change that would break too many things if changed in the rules now. I personally don't think it would impact the game in any negative way, it would just make it more intuitive for new players. thing is, they can do this if they want. You could re-write harness lightning as: Gain 3 energy. Deal X damage to target creature, where X is amount of energy spent (templating). If the target got removed in response, it wouldn't matter you'd still gain the energy. Same thing lightning helix could say: Gain 3 life. Deal 3 damage to target creature or player.
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Constructed Resources basically only started because former LR co-host Jon Loucks had quit Wizards and Marshall was keen to collaborate with him again. Except it turned out Loucks had quit Wizards mainly because working there had made him a bitter shell of a man disillusioned completely with Magic.
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jassi007 posted:thing is, they can do this if they want. You could re-write harness lightning as: Gain 3 energy. Deal X damage to target creature, where X is amount of energy spent (templating). If the target got removed in response, it wouldn't matter you'd still gain the energy. Same thing lightning helix could say: Gain 3 life. Deal 3 damage to target creature or player. Nnnno, that isn't how it works. It's not that it keeps going until one of the things is invalid, it's that if a spell has no valid targets at all, it fizzles completely. It doesn't matter what order they're written on the card for that.
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The Lord of Hats posted:if a spell has no valid targets at all, it fizzles completely.
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odiv posted:What's that rule about not being able to correct someone on the Internet without making a mistake? :P Eternal shame and damnation.
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The Lord of Hats posted:Nnnno, that isn't how it works. It's not that it keeps going until one of the things is invalid, it's that if a spell has no valid targets at all, it fizzles completely. It doesn't matter what order they're written on the card for that. ok yeah. sure "target player gains 3 energy. target creature player takes x damage where x is energy spent" "target player gains 3 life. target creature or player takes 3 damage" simple fix, two targets, one is invalid other one still happens.
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jassi007 posted:thing is, they can do this if they want. You could re-write harness lightning as: Gain 3 energy. Deal X damage to target creature, where X is amount of energy spent (templating). If the target got removed in response, it wouldn't matter you'd still gain the energy. Same thing lightning helix could say: Gain 3 life. Deal 3 damage to target creature or player. ....no you wouldn't. You'd either have to gain the 3 energy on cast (which is a completely different spell) or have the spell not target (again, a completely different spell.) Edit: jassi007 posted:ok yeah. sure "target player gains 3 energy. target creature player takes x damage where x is energy spent" "target player gains 3 life. target creature or player takes 3 damage" Yeah, this was the fix I thought of earlier when someone brought up the awaken draw spell. Have it be target player draws 2. Problem is you can't always have it so there are multiple targets, like the awaken spell that gave -2/-2 to all creatures or whatever it was. Also this doesn't work very well with some old spells like True Believer that give you shroud. Obviously that doesn't matter for standard, which is probably all they care about. suicidesteve fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Feb 23, 2017 |
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suicidesteve posted:....no you wouldn't. Right but if you can fix 99.9% and leave only edge cases it is an improvement. I don't think spell fizzling is an issue, but even if it is, they can address it with templating changes instead of rules changes in almost all cases.
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They're also putting Monarch on commander because of Palace Jailer, so yay, I guess.
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Angry Grimace posted:They're also putting Monarch on commander because of Palace Jailer, so yay, I guess. loving finally, now lets see them gently caress this up by not bothering to include the common Monarch cards. Hopefully they'll also add Custodi Squire.
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hey let's go back to talking about beginning of combat https://twitter.com/tommartell/status/834895046046445569
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Elyv posted:hey let's go back to talking about beginning of combat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00NOOB5ZGg8
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This is a really interesting build of fish: http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=111812 I am sort of tempted to work with this but push blood moon to the SB and keep cavern of souls / curse catcher to cast through chalice @ 1.
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mandatory lesbian posted:this does not look comfy it would make sense if she was slouching a little
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Elyv posted:hey let's go back to talking about beginning of combat I'm glad that Toby Elliot has gone literally loving insane and has decided that it should be impossible for the Active Player to hold priority in beginning of combat without any triggered abilities.
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Elyv posted:hey let's go back to talking about beginning of combat At first I misread that as Toby saying that this wouldn't take them to declare attackers, and that the joke was that you needed this amount of verbiage just to get your intentions across, which would be funny-sad enough in itself But no
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I'm apparently an idiot for thinking you can maintain priority in the beginning of combat phase, so I'd love to hear how it is possible outside of saying combat, beginning of combat, or describing exactly when in the next phase you would like to maintain priority.
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Elyv posted:hey let's go back to talking about beginning of combat Autism Judges
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