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VagueRant posted:Also kind of a casting spoiler rumour maybe sort of probably: I thought I heard Elias Toufexis/Adam Jensen was going to reappear this season? Expected Miller to run into a Protomolecule version of him in those corridors. Am I just totally mistaken? I recall the same interview and while there hasn't been anything confirmed... Book 2 spoiler: If he is coming back I bet he's the monster that attacks Billie's squad OR the monster in the cargo bay. VagueRant posted:What DID Fred do with Earth's nukes? Wonder if you'd be tempted to hit Venus with them JUST to make sure. Oh no, we're not on a mid-season break, are we? 
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Snuffman posted:I recall the same interview and while there hasn't been anything confirmed... I don't know how to connect those two dots, but I guess they could. For anyone curious, here's how last night's final scenes played out in the book. Spoiler tags in case any of the differences are addressed in a subsequent episode, or in case anyone currently reading the book wants to get there on their own. Leviathan Wakes, chapter 55 posted:Eros crashing into Venus was the most widely broadcast and recorded event in history. By the time the asteroid reached the sun's second planet, several hundred ships had taken up orbits there. Military vessels tried to keep the civilian ships away, but it was no use. They were just outnumbered. The video of Eros' descent was captured by military gun cameras, civilian ship telescopes, and the observatories on two planets and five moons.
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Toast Museum posted:For anyone curious, here's how last night's final scenes played out in the book. Spoiler tags in case any of the differences are addressed in a subsequent episode, or in case anyone currently reading the book wants to get there on their own.
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Feb 23, 2017 16:59
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This is the best god damned show. It's right up there with Westworld and Mr. Robot
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Mr Robot seemed pretty shallow but I only got about three episodes into it, does it get better?
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I like how in the future where earth is united and the UN runs the show, all the nukes are still America's  e: also are they going from silo to space in like 2 seconds holy poo poo
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Feb 23, 2017 17:20
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I was reading the whole kiss at the end was just the actors going improvin' the scene because it felt natural, wasn't in the script at all.
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Feb 23, 2017 17:23
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Syfy is cable? And the show airs at 10pm? Why exactly are the swears censored?
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Smiling Jack posted:Mr Robot seemed pretty shallow but I only got about three episodes into it, does it get better? Season 1 is pretty good if you like the computer stuff, season 2 kinda drags a bit though.
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CLAM DOWN posted:I like how in the future where earth is united and the UN runs the show, all the nukes are still America's Why are the city lights so small on future overpopulated Earth. Baronjutter posted:I was reading the whole kiss at the end was just the actors going improvin' the scene because it felt natural, wasn't in the script at all. Huh, when I try to improve scenes in my life that way I tend to get slapped or maced. 
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Feb 23, 2017 17:35
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CLAM DOWN posted:I like how in the future where earth is united and the UN runs the show, all the nukes are still America's If I had to guess, they're probably launched from railguns, which get things moving in a loving hurry. Speaking of the nukes, that's something else that was toned down in the show. I think they said it was about 150 missiles in the episode. In the book, Earth launches its entire ground-based arsenal of several thousand nukes, to be followed up by shipboard nukes sterilizing whatever was left.
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Combat Pretzel posted:Syfy is cable? And the show airs at 10pm? Why exactly are the swears censored? Ads still don't want to run on a station with bad words. The US hasn't had a real watershed for decades. It's barely censored, ProtoJulie and The White Lady on last week's Magicians both had Sailor Moon boobies (no nipples). Just one of those weird quirks of making all your tv in the present and having to broadcast it for audiences in Pleasantville too.
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Oh man, just watched the episode. I got all choked up at the end there, holy poo poo this show. I was thinking how the protomolecule in this episode was very different. It seemed much more 'nicer' or euphoric (not a bad thing, I really enjoyed the vibe) compared to the times you see it in season 1, where it comes off as this terrifying murder machine.
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Feb 23, 2017 18:49
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In season 1 the protomolecule was obtaining resources (by melting people down). In season 2 it was beginning to do "the work" that Julie said mustn't be stopped. That's why it seemed less threatening, everyone was already dead and the ongoing mostly off screen modifications of Eros didn't kill any one else.
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Number Ten Cocks posted:Why are the city lights so small on future overpopulated Earth. Looks like the map jibes pretty well with Nasa's Black Marble nighttime composites. Urban densification wouldn't necessarily result in a greater spread of lights. But Florida's missing.
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Phy posted:But Florida's missing. Truly there is hope for the future.
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Phy posted:Looks like the map jibes pretty well with Nasa's Black Marble nighttime composites. Urban densification wouldn't necessarily result in a greater spread of lights. The ocean consumed Florida, nice.
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Feb 23, 2017 19:06
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With the sea level rise in the shots of NY, florida would absolutely be totally under water.
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VagueRant posted:What DID Fred do with Earth's nukes? Wonder if you'd be tempted to hit Venus with them JUST to make sure. Whooo boy this season is moving fast! In a good way
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Feb 23, 2017 19:17
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And yeah, this is midseason break. Two weeks to wait :[
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I liked that they actually showed the transmission delay between Earth and Luna in that conversion between Chrisjen and Arjun. That's something that comes up every now and then in the books as a realistic consequence of communication over long distances that hasn't been addressed until now.
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They talked about it a couple of times but since they are used to it, it isn't something they pontificate on. It's one of the things I like about the show. For genre fiction, there is a lot less "We're in space so in space because space". Beautiful episode.
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Grand Fromage posted:I wonder why they totally eliminated the horror aspect of the protomolecule. The inside of Eros is a complete loving nightmare hellscape in the book, not a pretty glowing crystally thing. Good episode anyway. Because it's on TV.
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Feb 23, 2017 22:26
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Evernoob posted:TV is trying to recover from a zombie overdose. That's why. I've only read book 1 but they imply Earth standard of living is very high but I could be wrong
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Feb 23, 2017 22:40
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VagueRant posted:What DID Fred do with Earth's nukes? Wonder if you'd be tempted to hit Venus with them JUST to make sure. Wow getting started early with the book 2 stuff
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Phi230 posted:I've only read book 1 but they imply Earth standard of living is very high but I could be wrong While there is a common belief among Belters and Dusters that all Earthers live a life of leisure with free everything, the reality is that the system of basic income Earth provides really only papers over the staggering inequality of the Earth economy, and a massive chunk of the population of Earth lives in very terrible conditions and circumstances. Without getting into too many specifics, the later books do cover in more depth the real economic situation on Earth and dip into what life is like for someone living in the slums of the Earth mega cities. We might even get a little bit of that story this season.
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Feb 23, 2017 22:52
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I'm glad they ditched the zombies I'm sick of that poo poo and having scenes of them shooting their way through cyber zombies would have made the show feel not classy at all.
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Phi230 posted:Wow getting started early with the book 2 stuff Yeah, it's really weird that they're previewing book 2 stuff in the episodes following the one that completed book 1. I personally would have waited a long time after finishing book 1 before moving on to book 2.
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I'm like a week behind so just posting to say that in this show the only team I'm really rooting for are the Mormons, they seem to have the best plan for how to deal with the system. Bug the gently caress out.
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Number Ten Cocks posted:Yeah, it's really weird that they're previewing book 2 stuff in the episodes following the one that completed book 1. I personally would have waited a long time after finishing book 1 before moving on to book 2. I don't mind it, the pacing of the show is quite different than the books and I feel it's been super effective so far.
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ATP_Power posted:While there is a common belief among Belters and Dusters that all Earthers live a life of leisure with free everything, the reality is that the system of basic income Earth provides really only papers over the staggering inequality of the Earth economy, and a massive chunk of the population of Earth lives in very terrible conditions and circumstances. Without getting into too many specifics, the later books do cover in more depth the real economic situation on Earth and dip into what life is like for someone living in the slums of the Earth mega cities. yeah, one of the main characters in particular .......Amos........ is from circumstances in the Achewood sense.
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NZAmoeba posted:I'm like a week behind so just posting to say that in this show the only team I'm really rooting for are the Mormons, they seem to have the best plan for how to deal with the system. Bug the gently caress out.  Go Team Mormon!
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NZAmoeba posted:I'm like a week behind so just posting to say that in this show the only team I'm really rooting for are the Mormons, they seem to have the best plan for how to deal with the system. Bug the gently caress out. Right strategy, wrong method.
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Feb 23, 2017 23:05
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I'm cheering for Mars, Mars loving rules and I hope they conquer everyone and everything
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Kingtheninja posted:It seemed much more 'nicer' or euphoric (not a bad thing, I really enjoyed the vibe) compared to the times you see it in season 1, where it comes off as this terrifying murder machine. I don't know how the book characterizes it, but I way prefer this version. hosed up Cronenberg zombie monsters would be visually cool, but there's something fascinating about the idea that the Protomolecule is beyond understanding. It's not one-sidedly a destruction agent, but a very alien life cycle. It kind of gives me an Ender's Game vibe in that way, where its destructiveness stems from the misunderstanding that humans are discrete subjects. It subsumes biomatter and energy into this whirling collective, and probably sees the process as amoral (if it conceptualizes "morality" at all.) But it's de facto killing hundreds of thousands. And even then, only maybe; I guess everyone could be "alive" as part of some super-consciousness. The idea that it's some intertwined soup of partially-conscious ex-people is terrifying and kind of beautiful. Apparently it was sent here on a projectile moon, billions of years ago? I fail to see how that'd be "a weapon." It seems more likely it'd be a terraforming agent, looking for potential biomatter like humans scoping for ice or fuel on asteroids. Which is no more evil than what humanity's outward expansion is about : survival.
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I want everyone to settle down and work together and overthrow capitalism and live a life of peace and luxury harvesting the limitless resources of space.
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