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Kaincypher posted:funny you should mention that. I just downloaded MGSV for PC to prep for this. Played the original on consoles when it first came out. It really feels like Metal Gear from years ago without even more piss-poor vehicle controls and buddy AI. This went from a day-1 release purchase to a GMG or Ebay purchase. the physics in this game with vehicles were probably programmed by a mental invalid, I did a loving wheelie from the top of a mountain all the way to the bottom with no problems. while hilarious it also leads to a lot of stupid poo poo like enemy motorcycles that can push your armored cars off road lol. The "fixed" 3rd person view is also so loving awful and I wish it was more of a "free camera" like MGSV. I realize I brought up MGSV twice but when you're playing a game like this, you can't help but think how this concept was achieved much better with more destructable poo poo, greater options, and far better controls all at 60FPS on a console. Maybe it looks and feels better on PC but I can't say. Deakul posted:And yet you'd rather they made this instead? I'd rather the Avalanche engine of everything blowing up in millions of pieces was applied to this, but that's about it
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Deakul posted:And yet you'd rather they made this instead? Hey man, that was just Avalanche's US-based studio, Mad Max ran like a dream. 
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watch dogs 2 was impressive because i hated the protagonists enough i actually wished for aiden pierce again
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Mars4523 posted:It pisses me off to no end that the default magazine size for assault rifles and the MP5 is 20 rounds and not 30. 20 round mags own, set your rifle to semi auto and tap dudes in the chest. Also I fast travelled to the new region on the map and I gotta say, this game is loving gorgeous. Holy poo poo so many mooks with body armor out west, though. Edit: The new beta runs a whole shitload better than the closed one, drat near doubled my FPS with zero change to in game settings or my own hardware. Really like how bullet drop isn't exaggerated as much, either. Cover is still kinda weird, driving feels like Mario Kart, and helicopters do my head in, but beyond that I'm feeling there could be a pretty drat good game here. However, I'm not super wild on how apparent dead guys can call for backup, and how clairvoyant the backup seems to be. As soon as the call comes in, I run well away from where I was and the AI can still track me fairly closely. Does add a neat element of tension, though. All three of my AI boneheads got wiped out with a frag which nearly got me as well, thankfully the enemy gets a red poo poo IS GONNA EXPLODE HERE!!! indicator when they grenade you. also yeah the COCKHOLSTER SHITBALLS is dumb as heck but it kinda loops back around to being silly Beeb fucked around with this message at 07:40 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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Finished the beta with a group of 4 guys. MP is where it is at. 4 hour playthrough for the beta (both main story chains). Lots you can unlock during that initial period as well. I totally dig the mortar strike.
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Just finished the beta. I like what they tried to do with the game, but I feel the execution was a little off. The combat seems mediocre to me. The aiming and the camera just aren't that great. Vehicle dynamics, while potentially hilarious, can be frustrating. Especially the helicopter. I had no idea what I was doing half the time. Just simply following the big yellow arrow. Of course, this only accounted for a small fraction of the game; maybe it gets better. Seems like it would be great co-op fun, but it just didn't hit me enough to want to buy. At least not until it dips in price or gets great reviews.
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Is there going to be pvp? And not that dogshit like the division?
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always be closing posted:Is there going to be pvp? And not that dogshit like the division? Not at launch, probably nothing worth playing ever based on how bad the shooting is. I didn't expect this to be less fun to shoot in than The Division, which was super unfun to me.
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UnfortunateSexFart posted:Not at launch, probably nothing worth playing ever based on how bad the shooting is. Hell, that's depressing to read. I feel the same way about the division, but could probably have had fun in a tdm setting like I did in Red Dead. Gonna play the beta this weekend and see, wouldn't mind not buying a game till rdr2 tho. Dropped a ton on poo poo games this year.
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Gunplay is mediocre, vehicle physics are terrible, voice acting and writing is a warcrime. Game still manages to be super fun if you manage to find a good co-op buddy to operate with.
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Qmass posted:Helicopters suck but if they were any more involved, like they were in BF2/the BF1942 modern mods, you would have way more people complaining about how impossible they are. GTA has had good helicopters and they aren't sim-level difficulty to fly. They are nonsensical and baffling in this game with a controller on PC. I don't know if it's other unused inputs(mouse/keyboard) fighting with the controller or the strong auto hover people talk about but getting it to fly forward in a straight line at speed always feels like luck.
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yeah its semi-automated - and totally boring as a result. To fly forward without falling you hold "gain altitude" and forward until you start to lose altitude, then you release forward and keep holding "gain altitude". This keeps you flying level at speed. Then if you need to gain more height you keep holding "gain altitude" and hold backwards.
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I rushed through the first area, got everything, and started working on the second area, and holy poo poo it's like a totally different game. There's way more enemies at every mission and little area. The enemies are smarter and they have more things to use against you. It's way more difficult. If you're on the fence about the game, definitely try out that new map as soon as you can.
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How the gently caress are so many of you queens having issues with the gunplay? If you suck so hard that the mechanics don't work for you, maybe its you, not the game. Cause this poo poo plays like every other over-the-shoulder 3rd person shooter I've ever played. It's simple as gently caress.
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LCL-Dead posted:How the gently caress are so many of you queens having issues with the gunplay? It's not hard, if anything it's too easy. But thats not the problem - the problem is it's just not enjoyable. The only reason I'm still even thinking about it is because I can get it for $40 off and had some fun playing with goons once.
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Trip report: Game is fun. I have two problems with this game. 1. All vehicle controls are janky as gently caress. For cars and ground vehicles its like your stick has no middleground. You're either turning 100% or you're turning. This leads to the kind of terrible oversteering that makes it impossible to drive neatly. For helos it's like idk, I figured it out to the point I can drive a chopper pretty smoothly but it's not intuitive. My cousin had a lot of trouble with this while I mastered it easily. Planes? uhhh. hahahahaha 2. Walking motions and character controls are also janky as gently caress. It feels like my character has the motion controls of a game made a decade ago (and there were games made a decade ago with better character control). I loving hate it that when you get into cover you can't swap to face the other direction without extreme difficulty. It's irritating. Everything else about this game is fun as gently caress. Seriously, once you get over and used to the annoyance involved with traveling anywhere whether on foot or vehicle of any kind you're going to enjoy it (with a friend).
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Ice Fist posted:2. Walking motions and character controls are also janky as gently caress. It feels like my character has the motion controls of a game made a decade ago (and there were games made a decade ago with better character control). I loving hate it that when you get into cover you can't swap to face the other direction without extreme difficulty. It's irritating. I thought helicopters, once I figured out how to fly them, were pretty simple and easy to use and ended up primarily using them for all of my transport needs. As for walking, didn't think anything bad of it. Switching sides in cover was as simple as tapping the directional key (A or D) for me to get the dude to change which shoulder was against the wall. Then again, the only game I use a controller on my PC for (Like, I actually went out and bought an Xbone controller for it) is Rocket League because the KB&M controls are unintuitive and just poo poo.
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LCL-Dead posted:How the gently caress are so many of you queens having issues with the gunplay? The gunplay isn't "hard" it's just pissbitch quality. You're right though that it's just like any other 3rd person shooter in that it's mediocre retard poo poo much like the Division. At least in those games you could walk and run like you didn't have Forrest Gump leg braces though.
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MinibarMatchman posted:The gunplay isn't "hard" it's just pissbitch quality. You're right though that it's just like any other 3rd person shooter in that it's mediocre retard poo poo much like the Division. At least in those games you could walk and run like you didn't have Forrest Gump leg braces though. I guess I'm an awful person with terrible opinions but I like the gunplay in both the division and this game. LCL-Dead posted:As for walking, didn't think anything bad of it. Switching sides in cover was as simple as tapping the directional key (A or D) for me to get the dude to change which shoulder was against the wall. Yeah I'm on PS4.
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MinibarMatchman posted:The gunplay isn't "hard" it's just pissbitch quality. You're right though that it's just like any other 3rd person shooter in that it's mediocre retard poo poo much like the Division. At least in those games you could walk and run like you didn't have Forrest Gump leg braces though. I liked The Division's gunplay too (minus the RPG element). I thought the controls in that game were well done and responsive. I don't personally like 3rd person OTS shooters and prefer FPS gameplay to be completely honest but I wouldn't go as far as to say that this game's shooting mechanics are poo poo in any way. I'd like to see more games like that one USMC themed game that came out, where you have no direct control over aiming, just general squad positioning and movement on a 4 man fireteam level. I thought that was pretty fun. Again, if simply walking or running is too hard/aggravating for you, maybe it's time to move on to something a little bit easier for you to comprehend/control.
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LCL-Dead posted:I liked The Division's gunplay too (minus the RPG element). I thought the controls in that game were well done and responsive. hahaha, ok
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Hey man, it ain't my fault you got your expectations up high enough to have them shattered when you finally got to touch a beta product. Be like me, stop giving so many fucks about every aspect of the game and just find a way to enjoy it. We play to have fun, right? Quit being a stickler for the little poo poo.
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Movement in this game is janky but it is by no means 10 years old, that's just some real over-exaggeration unless it's a complement for not using the modern animation based movement third person games abuse that looks good but feels stiff and bad. Shooting non-sniper rifles is good as well. It feels good to go semi-automatic and plug 3 guys in under 2 seconds. This is the first game in awhile that semi-auto vs. auto actually seems to make a real difference, I hope some of the guns in the full game have a burst mode too. Sniper rifles shoot pretty goofy and the magnification on scopes is the only thing that really lets them reach out. The bullet drop is super unrealistic but it feels good in a gamey way, not in a realistic way, when you make a distant shot. I need to do more experimentation with whether the markings on the scopes mean anything but they probably don't because the game is so shallow already. I've been playing a lot with eye tracking lately and it's pretty hit and miss in this game. Much worse than Deus Ex: Mankind Divided and Watch Dogs 2. It actually feels pretty good in Wildlands when using the look to aim(you aim at the part of the screen you're looking at when you press the aim button instead of straight down the camera) out in the open with no near obstructions. However, it's not implemented with any kind of subtlety so it's basically impossible to aim quickly over taller than waist high cover because it just tries to look through the cover and then you have to adjust your view. You can also look to track guys, as if you hovered over them with your aim but it's very slow and that generally works. However, it's too slow and it's typically faster to aim at a guy instead. I turn off all the extended view stuff because eye tracking isn't that fast, it's much better for interacting with the spot you're looking at. In Watch Dogs 2, it's actually quite good and you can use it to run around and look at people on screen to hack while the camera is pointed somewhere else. I like it in Mankind Divided for the moving from cover to cover mechanic where it lets you look at where you want to go instead of moving the camera. edit: Drink every time I say feels good, hah 
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Ghost Recon Wildlands is a fun game to play with friends.
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Bubba Smith posted:Ghost Recon Wildlands is a fun game to play with friends. Or even just random goons, with or without mics. Needs more emotes, a jump and a slide for maximum fun times.
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This being a uplay game means that it makes my discord connection completely poo poo the bed. I would LOVE to find a fix for this, and this is basically what stopped me playing Division with goons. Also push to talk seems to just straight up not work in game. I set a key, and press it and my mic icon stays slashed through.
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Feb 24, 2017 18:30
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Ghost Recon: Steve Watched a Movie With a Helicopter Once So We Let Him Do The Controls
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Bump the deadzone settings in game for controllers to low from the default off and you'll find the driving and flying 100% better, IMHO. It's not that bad once you understand the helicopters have two flying styles at low and high speed. The difference between the three snipers is great. The HTI is a loving monster and sounds cool hearing the shot from my buddy way off in overwatch as I sneak through towns killing targets up close. I can see collecting all the weapon mods and messing with gun setups is going to be super fun. This game is going to be a blast with co-op buddies.
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Elendil004 posted:This being a uplay game means that it makes my discord connection completely poo poo the bed. I would LOVE to find a fix for this, and this is basically what stopped me playing Division with goons. Yeah, discord's pretty poo poo. Just use mumble. :iamafag:
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Shredder posted:Ghost Recon: Steve Watched a Movie With a Helicopter Once So We Let Him Do The Controls Remember, a helicopter can go forward and down, or stand still and go up, but never the two shall meet.
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Knifegrab posted:Remember, a helicopter can go forward and down, or stand still and go up, but never the two shall meet. You can go forward and up by building up forward momentum then pulling back. You'll still go forward but you'll climb. Also I got into a gun fight with two other choppers and shot one down with the miniguns. It was an utter clusterfuck and pure luck I actually hit the enemy. Choppers controls are well enough for transport but it's like trying to wrangle cats for joysticks in combat. Still I had a loving blast with random pubbies, connection seemed solid in the half dozen games I joined. lovely part is open mic by default so crying babies and a barking dog aside... I do miss the cover to cover run from Splinter Cell and the last Ghost Recon game. Really I miss tight hugging walls and corners and popping out, that does feel clunky. Definitely a purchase for me though. The character and gun customization are loving boss, the world is huge and the beta let me know I can handle the weird as poo poo driving controls.
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Jose Oquendo posted:Any PS4 goons on this? Add me: joedbaker Friend request sent. I'm ElJebus0 if anyone else wants to play this on PS4.
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Knifegrab posted:Remember, a helicopter can go forward and down, or stand still and go up, but never the two shall meet. That's not true in this game or in real life, depending on the helicopter. In real life if the helicopter has enough power you can definitely tilt forward while gaining altitude as long as you aren't pushing the stick all the way forward. In the game you can do it by being in "airplane mode" and pulling back on the stick. You maintain forward speed and climb like an airplane. In this game get a little altitude then hold forward and the throttle at the same until the helicopter starts to lose altitude at all, then just stop holding forward and it flies exactly like an airplane. Push forward to go down, pull back to go up all while cruising at speed. It's really spastic but just fine when you get used to it. There is no discernable logic to its setup though. BitBasher fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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I honestly had to laugh when I picked up a VIP, jumped in a chopper, gained altitude and then pitched forward, holding the same gain alt button and just augured into the ground.
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I am perhaps more excited than anything else to get three of my friends into a chopper after unlocking parachute immediately for myself. We will discuss mission prep and objectives for at least 5-10 minutes. I will fly us high in the sky for a aerial insertion perfectly placed for a covert entrance. Except when it comes time to land I'm just going to jump out with "later bros" as they plummet to their deaths.
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There's something about the way this game runs that's really bizarre. It says I'm getting 50-60 FPS but nothing feels smooth, like there's a bit of stutter that's not frame dependent. Also the game straight up freezes for a few seconds when I travel a bunch and this is on an SSD. Also holy loving poo poo is the dialog awful and your character and squad mates never, ever shut the gently caress up. This game isn't awful but in a ton of ways it really does feel like Tom Clancy's Budget Phantom Pain.
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BitBasher posted:That's not true in this game or in real life, depending on the helicopter. In real life if the helicopter has enough power you can definitely tilt forward while gaining altitude as long as you aren't pushing the stick all the way forward. In the game you can do it by being in "airplane mode" and pulling back on the stick. You maintain forward speed and climb like an airplane. Oh yes I forgot how easy and sensible this is as opposed to making it handle like, ya know, a helicopter.
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