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Troy Queef posted:add me to the gang-tag list: THIS IS WHY BERNIE LOST because y'all can't follow instructions!!!!!!! TRUMP
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Just got a big fat envelope from the DSA. I hope it's my badge and gun.
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Just signed up and am getting in on the conference calls over the next couple of weeks, add me for southern New Mexico!
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Jonas Albrecht posted:Just got a big fat envelope from the DSA. I hope it's my badge and gun. One guy during the meeting, when they were asking people for suggestions for group activities, went "gun range" in this grumbly low voice and everyone laughed like they couldn't tell if he was serious or not and honestly I couldn't either. Eesh.
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Feb 24, 2017 18:28
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mysterious frankie posted:One guy during the meeting, when they were asking people for suggestions for group activities, went "gun range" in this grumbly low voice and everyone laughed like they couldn't tell if he was serious or not and honestly I couldn't either. Eesh. literally nothing wrong with that
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mysterious frankie posted:One guy during the meeting, when they were asking people for suggestions for group activities, went "gun range" in this grumbly low voice and everyone laughed like they couldn't tell if he was serious or not and honestly I couldn't either. Eesh.
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mysterious frankie posted:One guy during the meeting, when they were asking people for suggestions for group activities, went "gun range" in this grumbly low voice and everyone laughed like they couldn't tell if he was serious or not and honestly I couldn't either. Eesh. I would have been up for that, personally speaking.
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mysterious frankie posted:One guy during the meeting, when they were asking people for suggestions for group activities, went "gun range" in this grumbly low voice and everyone laughed like they couldn't tell if he was serious or not and honestly I couldn't either. Eesh. Gun range and arming the left actually a good idea! go that guy.
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Feb 24, 2017 18:46
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left wing gun culture is good
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GlyphGryph posted:I would have been up for that, personally speaking. yeah seriously, a wyo dsa chapter is probably gonna pop up next month and if they're suggesting activities im totally suggesting a range day. I'll probably suggest it during the next progressives and local Democrat meeting too now that I think about it.
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mysterious frankie posted:One guy during the meeting, when they were asking people for suggestions for group activities, went "gun range" in this grumbly low voice and everyone laughed like they couldn't tell if he was serious or not and honestly I couldn't either. Eesh. What I'm saying is he made a mistake by not being clear that he was serious, and you should remedy it by making it a serious proposal at the next meeting. 
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Feb 24, 2017 18:48
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Nunchucks and learning how to harness our ki or nothing.
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Feb 24, 2017 18:49
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If you're pro-gun, might as well arm yourself. If you're anti-gun, one of the fastest ways to get conservative stooges to back gun control is a visible armed left (See e.g. Reagan in California responding to the Black Panthers). It's weirdly win/win.
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mysterious frankie posted:Nunchucks and learning how to harness our ki or nothing. lol, just lol if you don't have a leftist HEMA group
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I also endorse basic gun literacy for all.
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Words from a a smart guy http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/can-the-democrats-get-organized quote:For one thing, the rise of the conservative movement didn't happen through the RNC [Republican National Committee]. Conservatives successfully created a more or less coherent network of organizations linked to local, state and national politics, which is a traditional form of effective political organization in the U.S. There was the Christian Coalition which started with school boards and moved upwards to take over the Republican Party. Or there is the Koch Brothers' network. Not to mention the Tea Party or the NRA or ALEC ... quote:You look in vain for something like that on the progressive side. It would make sense for progressives to start new organizations that just focused on school boards, water districts, and other elections where competent people could easily win elections up against batshit crazies that end up in these positions. It wouldn't change Congress but conservatives clearly were playing a long game starting in the 80s-90s and it definitely helped them weather a lot of storms. E: Ah, Christ. Definitely meant this for the Democrats thread  . I guess some of it holds true as lessons learned for the DSA, though.
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:Oh, thanks for reminding me! For SF Bay Area chapters I intended to put together a trip to a range for a basic weapons safety training. what if i dont own guns anymore
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lancemantis posted:what if i dont own guns anymore the price has been dropping since the trumpeting, now's a good time to get more
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tadashi posted:It would make sense for progressives to start new organizations that just focused on school boards, water districts, and other elections where competent people could easily win elections up against batshit crazies that end up in these positions. It wouldn't change Congress but conservatives clearly were playing a long game starting in the 80s-90s and it definitely helped them weather a lot of storms. The problem is the thing that kicked it all off was them successfully telling the RNC to gently caress off and taking over the party by running McGovern and getting him nominated. Everything that came afterwards, all that organizational work, was enabled and spread by the endorsement and funding of these external organizations by the party apparatus and donor base. So it's a bit weird to make the claim he makes. Also, lots of mischaracterization of OurRevolution and the work they are doing despite him admitting he's completely ignorant about it. laughing my rear end off as the idea that their primary focus is Ellison. Although that one is more the fault of the interviewer prompting and leading him than anything else. He seems to be thinking in the right direction, I do agree he sounds like a smart guy, but he seems to be speaking from a position of rather impressive ignorance in many ways as well. Like buying into the demographics is destiny myth. I do think it has lots of good stuff in it though. Edit: Ah, yeah, I thought it was a bit out of place here. GlyphGryph has issued a correction as of 19:25 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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mysterious frankie posted:One guy during the meeting, when they were asking people for suggestions for group activities, went "gun range" in this grumbly low voice and everyone laughed like they couldn't tell if he was serious or not and honestly I couldn't either. Eesh. I'm going to bring this up next meeting fo sho
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I'm a Chicagoan, from Park Forest originally, and that informs my relationship with firearms. Your guys' groups in your areas might be different.
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Woof Blitzer posted:I'm going to bring this up next meeting fo sho Leftist gun ownership group at my DSA is poppin
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mysterious frankie posted:I'm a Chicagoan, from Park Forest originally, and that informs my relationship with firearms. Your guys' groups in your areas might be different. Im from Flint, MI, do you think firearm legislation will really make areas like ours and safer? There's already more guns than human beings in America.
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Ace of Baes posted:Im from Flint, MI, do you think firearm legislation will really make areas like ours and safer? There's already more guns than human beings in America. I'm saying I don't really want to learn how to use a gun or be around one. Enough guns have been shot around me. I saw a kid get shot in the street before I turned 16. I'm good with not having a gun. EDIT: that's not me cred farming or trying to shut down a talk about legislation either. I'm just trying to explicate where I personally stand on it and why a room full of almost 200 people even considering strapping up because of politics gives me a case of the existential piss shivers. mysterious frankie has issued a correction as of 21:07 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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mysterious frankie posted:I'm saying I don't really want to learn how to use a gun or be around one. Enough guns have been shot around me. I saw a kid get shot in the street before I turned 16. I'm good with not having a gun. That's reasonable.
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Ace of Baes posted:Im from Flint, MI, do you think firearm legislation will really make areas like ours and safer? There's already more guns than human beings in America. I'm sure people thought the same thing about smoking in the late 70s except about cancer and smoking related illness.
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tadashi posted:I'm sure people thought the same thing about smoking in the late 70s except about cancer and smoking related illness. Ya but cigarettes get consumed...There are still working guns around from WWII.
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Ah good, the 20 million gun chat threads weren't popping enough, glad we made it 20 million and 1
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mysterious frankie posted:I'm saying I don't really want to learn how to use a gun or be around one. Enough guns have been shot around me. I saw a kid get shot in the street before I turned 16. I'm good with not having a gun. I hear you, actually. I did not have visceral contact with the direst ramifications of our country's gun culture but I do come from a strongly anti-gun family. The thing is conservative lobbies like the NRA are openly pushing for their toadies to adopt a posture of existential intimidation against the left and it's difficult for me to think of any response to that other than "Welp, time to arm ourselves." Maybe that makes me a knee-jerk proto-tankie, I don't know.
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tadashi posted:I'm sure people thought the same thing about smoking in the late 70s except about cancer and smoking related illness. Yeah, but with cigarettes we could solve the issue by smoking enough that there was no longer more cigarettes than people in America. Hell, I spent my 20s trying! ... I really put in a lot of effort!  SEE
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Ace of Baes posted:Ya but cigarettes get consumed...There are still working guns around from WWII. Yes but if you set a goal of reducing the amount of guns in society across a multi-generational campaign with sweeping gun legislation and education about gun safety - meaning that they're dangerous as gently caress and most people don't need them - you could actually make people safer from gun violence. It took a multi-generational campaign to put guns in the hands of as many people as possible to get where we are.
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Ah good, the 20 million gun chat threads weren't popping enough, glad we made it 20 million and 1 Yeah, sorry if I helped usher in the gunpocalypse.
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Well, hey, on the flip side in peaceful protests multiple Republican state legislators are proposing bullshit restrictions on public assembly (ostensibly to discourage "riots" and such). Does anyone have any ideas for how we could bring this up with our locals to try and organize opposition to such legislation? Petitions? Organized calling or office visits?
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I think maybe we can all agree to disagree and not poo poo on people who are Anti-gun or pro-gun? After all we all want to destroy Capitalism. 
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Ace of Baes posted:I think maybe we can all agree to disagree and not poo poo on people who are Anti-gun or pro-gun? After all we all want to destroy Capitalism. I'm sorry but this is the marxist leninists of america where we have to determine the party position on every single issue.
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