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Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope
Is that J_C_Campbell guy trying to look like a Silver Age villain or what?

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Paingod556
Nov 8, 2011

Not a problem, sir



I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Wait he still has the support of.... Eric Abetz?

Speaking of, Holocaust Apologist Peter is still sending stuff for the WA election. The latest stuff claims that Labor is still in chaos, and will raise taxes to waste on pointless busywork, while the Libs have a real plan.

That plan is literally the same as what Labor wants to do over here- new train line, more school funding, more firefighters, investigate light rail between Cockburn and Armadale (why?)

So I guess the Libs want to increase tax as well?

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Found the Crean

The chairman of the Turnbull government’s backbench environment and energy committee has backed Tony Abbott’s call to wind back the renewable energy target, and cut the immigration rate to boost housing affordability.

The Liberal MP Craig Kelly told Guardian Australia on Friday the RET needed to be frozen where it is at the moment, and the government needed to explicitly link the issues of immigration and housing affordability.

“We have to link the two,” Kelly said. “One of the big factors in housing demand at the moment is how many people migrate to Australia.”

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

https://twitter.com/davpope/status/835016771337764864

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

The best cartoonist

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you

quote:

The Secret Iraq Dossier
A newly declassified report obtained by Fairfax Media reveals Australia's role in the 2003 invasion of Iraq was undertaken solely to enhance our alliance with the US. David Wroe investigates.

On the night of April 12, 2003, Australia’s military commander in the Middle East, Brigadier Maurie McNarn, was woken by a phone call telling him that a RAAF Hercules would soon fly into Baghdad airport to deliver medical supplies for the Iraqi capital’s looted hospitals.

The caller was his boss, then Chief of the Defence Force General Peter Cosgrove. Nevertheless, McNarn protested, saying the airport was not secure and there was no safe way to distribute the supplies to 40 hospitals across the crumbling capital. Cosgrove, now Sir Peter, the nation’s Governor-General, told him to make it happen. It was being announced to the press in 30 minutes.

Operation Baghdad Assist went ahead and became a media triumph for then prime minister John Howard and Sir Peter amid a deeply unpopular war. The Hercules, carrying three journalists and 13 commandos to provide protection, was the first Australian plane to land in Baghdad after the invasion a month earlier.

But the medical supplies never made it out of the airport. They rotted. A second planeload was diverted to the city of Nasiriyah, whose hospitals were already relatively well stocked. McNarn would go on to dismiss the whole thing as a “photo opportunity”. Special forces commander Lieutenant-Colonel Rick Burr, who learned of the operation on CNN, was equally upset, writing in his diary that the operation made “a mockery of our approach”.

It’s one of many startling revelations in a 572-page, declassified internal report on the Iraq War obtained by Fairfax Media under freedom of information laws. Written between 2008 and 2011 by Dr Albert Palazzo from Defence’s Directorate of Army Research and Analysis, it is by far the most comprehensive assessment of our involvement in the war. Originally classified “Secret”, it was finally released last week after more than 500 redactions.

The report concludes that Howard joined US president George W. Bush in invading Iraq solely to strengthen Australia’s alliance with the US. Howard’s – and later Kevin Rudd’s – claims of enforcing UN resolutions, stopping the spread of weapons of mass destruction and global terrorism, even rebuilding Iraq after the invasion, are dismissed as “mandatory rhetoric”.

Howard and Sir Peter, facing domestic political pressure, ensured that Australian lives were exposed to as little risk as possible. The result was a contribution that was of only modest military use and, in many cases, made little sense. Politically, delivering the right force was “secondary to the vital requirement of it just being there” but it led some American military officers to grumble that Australia was providing “a series of headquarters”.

It was managed from the top with a keen eye for the politics and the public relations, yet frustrated commanders often asked what they were doing in Iraq and many took to writing their own mission statements. One commander wryly summed up his time in Iraq thus: “We did some poo poo for a while and things didn’t get any worse.”

The report, which Defence says is an “unofficial history” that represents the author’s own views, is the product of three years’ work and includes more than 75 interviews with military figures, correspondence with other sources, and full access to classified documents.

Palazzo planned it as an unclassified book to be published by the Army History Unit, aimed at teaching junior officers about the Iraq War, but it grew into a larger, classified project that Palazzo hoped would be distributed internally, including to senior Defence leaders.

That did not happen. Instead the report was shelved.

Its release comes as Australia once again ponders the US alliance in the era of Donald Trump, with Australian troops back in Iraq, and with the Pentagon poised to release a new game plan to defeat the Islamic State terror group that could involve asking for more help from Canberra.

More at the link.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

adamantium|wang posted:

More at the link.
Some persepective:

Although the number of deaths is formally listed at two it was actually more:

quote:

No Australian military personnel were killed in action during Operation Falconer or Operation Catalyst, although three died in accidents or during service with British forces; many more have been wounded. Additionally as many as six Australians have been killed whilst working as private security contractors.

And beyond the human toll (casualties conveniently exclude veterans who went on to commit suicide) what did this PR exercise cost?

quote:

The cost of the Iraq war to Australian taxpayers is estimated to have exceeded A$5 billion.

Labor waste!

The whole world did not want this war to happen. Sucks to be us.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



quote:

Its release comes as Australia once again ponders the US alliance in the era of Donald Trump, with Australian troops back in Iraq, and with the Pentagon poised to release a new game plan to defeat the Islamic State terror group that could involve asking for more help from Canberra.

After the last phone call?

thatfatkid
Feb 20, 2011

by Azathoth
The US President could gently caress the Australian PM's partner, brag about it to the media, say it was a dud root and Australia would still do whatever the US wanted.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

tithin posted:

After the last phone call?

Turnbull's shown himself to be thoroughly gutless.

thatfatkid posted:

The US President could gently caress the Australian PM's partner, brag about it to the media, say it was a dud root and Australia would still do whatever the US wanted.

Yeah pretty much.

Wheezle
Aug 13, 2007

420 stop boats erryday

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Today is poo poo on Tony Day:



It's just like how everyone in Labor came out to poo poo all over Rudd in 2012 or so.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
Man kicked out of gay club
https://twitter.com/aclennell/status/835082367068876800

Les Affaires
Nov 15, 2004


Cory Bernardo rubs his hands with glee.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

https://twitter.com/nonstoptom/status/831991997585989632

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

That's a hilarious and uncomfortable thing to watch.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Doctor Spaceman posted:

That's a hilarious and uncomfortable thing to watch.

What's wrong with you? No Hadrian fans in tonight?

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
For those unaware, several members of the UPF (including it's leader) are facing prosecution for racial villification in Victoria. Blair Cottrell released this video a couple of days ago regarding some conspiracy-theory bullshit about the State Government. It's long, rambling, and alarmist. Basically insert a whole bunch of fascists complaining about not being able to spew hate.

By the way, the thing they did was stage a mock beheading in bendigo.

sick of Applebees
Nov 7, 2008
So who's here at this Greens campaign school at UQ today?

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

quote:

Tinder taking away brothels' 'bread and butter': owner

Dating apps such as Tinder are taking away Queensland brothels' "bread and butter" business, a concerned Brisbane brothel licensee says.

The Viper Room licensee Joan Leeds said while she was fortunate to have more than 4000 regular clients, her business was being undercut by the internet through dating sites and apps like Tinder.

"Nobody wants to acknowledge it but it's true," she said.

"You only have to jump on the internet to see what sort of sites are out there.

"If you speak to most people who go onto internet dating sites, it's a hook-up, most of them are expecting sex, that is what happens ... Tinder especially."

Ms Leeds, who bought the business in March 2006, claims she has seen no growth in her business for the past four years and suggested there would only be about six out of the 22 licensed brothels operating in Queensland that were making "any real money".

"I would suggest the industry is dying out," she said.

Ms Leeds said she was losing customers who would often frequent brothels over the weekend.

"These guys used to come into the brothels all the time because they are the people who don't commit to anybody," she said.

"They are the sorts of people who will come into a brothel after they didn't pick up and it would be a notch on their belt, they would never see the same girl twice.

"They would be the bread and butter of your Friday and Saturday nights. Well, they don't come in anymore because they just jump on Tinder, it's free."

Ms Leeds, whose annual registration fee of $42,435 is coming up fast, said brothels had to evolve with the times and create a point of difference.

"(I am offering) someone that is happy on the desk, that is happy to chat to them (the customer), I make them a coffee when they come in the door, I know a little bit about them, I recommend girls to them once I know them and I keep a happy house," she said.

"If he (the client) thinks it is a happy place to come to where people care about him and he is not scared to walk through that door and be treated like dirt just because he is paying for sex, then you will have good regular clientele and that is what you have to rely on and that is all I have been relying on."

Call for ban on mobile phones in sex ads

More than 27 brothel licensees and managers met in Brisbane on Sunday to discuss problems within the industry and how they could best protect themselves against illegal sex workers who were taking away a substantial amount of business, according to Cairns brothel owner Aart Brons.

There are two legal forms of sex work in Queensland - sex work conducted in a licensed brothel, from which outcalls are prohibited, and sole operators who are sex workers that work privately from a premises.

Escort agencies, unlicensed brothels, massage parlours, street workers and two or more sex workers operating from a single premises are considered illegal.

According to Prostitution Licensing Authority in 2011, the illegal sector was "likely to be larger than the legal sector".

There were 22 licensed brothels operating in Queensland at the end of the 2015-16 financial year, the lowest number of brothels since 2005-06, according to the PLA.

Mr Brons, who owns Northern Belle, told brothel owners on Sunday he believed the best way to stamp out illegal operators would be to make landlines compulsory on all sex ads to make advertisers more accessible to the PLA.

Legislation states a person must not publish an advertisement for prostitution that describes the services offered, states directly or indirectly that the person's business provides or is connected with massage services or be worded in such a way as to induce a person to seek employment as a sex worker.

"To distinguish between illegal sex operators masquerading as genuine, legal sole operators, that is where the problem lies," he said.

"The landline would have such an effect that it would throw a wrecking ball through the illegal industry.

"The PETF (Prostitution Enforcement Taskforce) would have a pivotal tool to see whether that ad is genuine to the person it belongs to.

"An escort agency that might have three or four on the books, if there was such a thing and there is, it would then stop them.

"Advertising would stop and therefore girls from interstate and overseas would only be able to work in Queensland if they had a premises and a landline."

Mr Brons has put forward a petition, with signatures from 21 brothel licensees and managers, calling for the Attorney-General to make landlines compulsory on sex ads in Queensland.

In a statement released in 2011, the PLA indicated advertising restrictions would be "insufficient" in stopping illegal operators.

"The PLA remains convinced a multi-pronged approach is required to tackle illegal operators … (and) should include the lifting of the prohibition on outcalls from licensed brothels and the legislation of escort agencies," the PLA statement read.

"Advertising restrictions and police enforcement action are insufficient to make any significant long-term impact.

"The current regulatory regime is restrictive and provides insufficient incentive to draw illegal operators into the licensed sector."

Mr Brons has also called for the state government to adopt an outstanding recommendation that was laid out in the Crime and Misconduct Commission's 2011 review into the Prostitution Act, established in 1999.

The CMC, now referred to as the Crime and Corruption Commission, had recommended the establishment of a Ministerial Advisory Committee under the Act with a legislative obligation to report directly to the Minister.

It was recommended the committee include a wide range of representation from sex workers, brothel owners, police, to the state health department and local councils.

Ms Leeds said the committee was a good idea to make sure all brothel licensees worked together to improve their industry.

"In terms of the committee, I think that is the best thing that we should be doing," she said.

"I think the single biggest enemy of the brothel industry is ourselves because when we are all in fear of something, we all of a sudden try to do something about it but as soon as that fear for themselves disappears they all go, 'Oh, we will run our own race now'".

A spokeswoman for the Attorney-General said there were no changes to the Act under consideration.

"The Attorney-General understands there are diverse and strong opinions about the issue in the community. However, there are currently no changes to prostitution advertising under consideration."


http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/tinder-taking-away-brothels-bread-and-butter-owner-20170222-guismo.html

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

ShoeFly
Dec 28, 2006

Waiter, there's a fly in my shoe!


:australia:

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

https://twitter.com/vanOnselenP/status/833563156211396613

asio
Nov 29, 2008

"Also Sprach Arnold Jacobs: A Developmental Guide for Brass Wind Musicians" refers to the mullet as an important tool for professional cornet playing and box smashing black and blood
A poofter loving greenie who hates australia =/= a bad thing

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Mods please change my name to A Poofter Loving Greenie.

Schneider Inside Her
Aug 6, 2009

Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman
Seriously though the human race is garbage

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Schneider Inside Her posted:

Seriously though the human race is garbage

:same:

AgentF
May 11, 2009

Schneider Inside Her posted:

Seriously though the human race is right-wingers are garbage

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
https://twitter.com/CliveFPalmer/status/835092086869274624

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you
https://twitter.com/Drag0nista/status/835274927435476992

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
The best moment of the last Libspill will always be Peter Van Onselen rattling off the list of people Tony Abbott couldn't put on the leadership ticket next to himself, and being like, "He can't pick Cormann, he can't pick Abetz, he hasn't got Bishop, he certainly can't pick Kevin Andrews, for god's sake."

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Dan Didio posted:

The best moment of the last Libspill will always be Peter Van Onselen rattling off the list of people Tony Abbott couldn't put on the leadership ticket next to himself, and being like, "He can't pick Cormann, he can't pick Abetz, he hasn't got Bishop, he certainly can't pick Kevin Andrews, for god's sake."

That whole night was kind of amazing, six people around a desk all texting their sources.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
Anthony Green has run his numbers on the Queensland redistribution. On last elections result the new distributions would leave Labor +3, LNP +2 and KAP -1

It's all a bit useless given one nation is going to run a clean sweep of the state though.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
Redistribution will be for naught if they call the election before it goes in

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

discourse.jpg

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/FOXSportsAUS/status/832378117188509697

Which one of you is working for Fox Sports?

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008


DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
I hope I haven't missed this being posted already. If I did then I apologise.

http://www.chaser.com.au/national/cafe-owner-fiercely-supports-the-scrapping-of-penalty-rates-hed-never-paid-anyway/

Mad Katter
Aug 23, 2010

STOP THE BATS

I'm Bogan Gate Bum Bum Cree

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Mad Katter
Aug 23, 2010

STOP THE BATS

Also morbidly obese at 10

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