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Maybe there would be fewer pests if they were allowed to grow in a controlled environment under grow lights.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Well, did either of them sign? Oh no, that was a lost cause. Overall in Washington DC I'd say I had 90% generally positive responses while canvassing, and over probably 45+ total days I had maybe a dozen folks actually combative about it. I literally had a couple points where I had to back out of a debate since I was genuinely concerned the other person might punch me. And I had two times (both in Anacostia) where I had to say that my concerns weren't just white-middle-class paranoia, but I was genuinely somewhere where I should not be. The two weirdest points in Anacostia were when I was downtown and saw *zero* white people other than cops, had a bunch of people hit me up to buy them some small thing from the store, and one guy who threatened to beat my rear end because I wouldn't let him "hold" $5. I crossed the street, found friendlier people, mentioned the previous dick and they replied "just stay on this side of the street". The other time in Anacostia I was in some residential areas and doing great, but then crossed into a commercial area within a block radius of a local corner park there were literally 100+ people, mostly men, just sitting on boxes or benches at noon on a weekday and looking pretty down, nodding out, etc. I got a couple "you really shouldn't be here" comments, saw a bus labeled "Anacostia Metro Station" and jumped on. When I just stuck to the subway station in Anacostia, I did great on signatures; pretty secure area, and the weirdness of a white guy in a shirt and tie with Panama hat got people curious. I got just a handful of "why are *you* of all people working Anacostia" but no real problems. On the flip-side, I got bugger-all for support in the Northwest wards (really white and upper-class) and it turned out that our best canvassers there were young African-American men. Apparently when I canvass up there I'm just yet another do-gooder to be handwaved away, but when a young black guy does it and says "people like *me* are going to jail because of people like *you*" everyone is suddenly apologetic and happy to sign and support. Canvassing was a ton of fun, I'd recommend it highly for a cause you care about. I'm broadly enjoying doing volunteer lobbying right now, but it's not as exciting as canvassing. I did three shifts last week at the Austin Capitol and almost every single person who even paused at our booth had positive things to say about the proposed Texas weed reform. If anything, it was a little weird having a bunch of middle-aged people dropping by to say "I just love Colorado's new laws every time I visit *wink*!" or "my family member gets a lot of relief from X cannabis medication, so fuckit, we just drive to Colorado every few months and stock up, I'm not going to follow a law if it hurts my family."
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# ? Feb 21, 2017 06:33 |
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By the time federal prohibition is lifted half of the population will live in legal states, and it will only be done to make the justice system less of a mess. Some older members of congress with considerable power (Dianne Feinstein among them) are very ardent about the drug war and won't lift a finger to help with legalizing cannabis.
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# ? Feb 21, 2017 22:44 |
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One thing I'm relishing is the fact that when the states that legalized for recreation in 2016 all have operating markets in 2018, it's going to mean even far *more* interstate diversion of cannabis, with every lovable doofus now deciding that he too can be a marijuana dealer by buying in state A and selling in state B. This is just going to hasten even more legalization/decriminalization.
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https://twitter.com/radleybalko/status/834862805148901377 So, uh... so much for state's rights
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 21:45 |
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quote:“When you see something like the opioid addiction crisis blossoming in so many states around this country, the last thing we should be doing is encouraging people,” [Spicer] said. i hope somebody slaps a fentanyl patch on his dick yes, he's talking about cannabis stores in this quote
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 22:48 |
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karlor posted:https://twitter.com/radleybalko/status/834862805148901377 This was inevitable. The people who thought Sessions, Trump, and Bannon wouldn't go after legal weed must have been high as poo poo. How could they not crack down? Scorpion and the frog people. It's in their nature.
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 00:04 |
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karlor posted:https://twitter.com/radleybalko/status/834862805148901377
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karlor posted:https://twitter.com/radleybalko/status/834862805148901377 More details for those that didn't watch the press briefing. quote:During a White House briefing Thursday, press secretary Sean Spicer told reporters that “I do believe that you’ll see greater enforcement” of federal drug laws prohibiting use of recreational marijuana during the Trump administration. But medical marijuana is a different question, Spicer said, noting that states with medical marijuana laws were protected from federal interference by a congressional budget rider passed in 2014.
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 00:22 |
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Yes Donny, put a few hundred million dollar holes in state budgets and put thousands of people out of work, there won't be any backlash.
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 00:27 |
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SwampDonkey posted:More details for those that didn't watch the press briefing.
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 00:55 |
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In good news the Netherlands is finally making cultivation legal I'm always a little confused about the status of legalization in the Netherlands, but I guess it's good they're finally shining a light on the grey market
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 01:14 |
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Nevada still moving ahead despite threatsquote:That has not prompted the Nevada agency tasked with crafting rules governing recreational marijuana sales to change its timeline for ensuring dispensaries can open this summer, said agency spokeswoman Stephanie Klapstein. We're in for a fun time.
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 19:27 |
Zamujasa posted:Nevada still moving ahead despite threats heck yeah
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 21:12 |
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Sessions is going to raid dispensaries. Watch it loving happen.
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 22:22 |
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I have mixed feelings, but I think ultimately this will turn out well for weed in the long run no matter which way it breaks. I don't want to do the whole "heh I'm a white male and unlikely to be inconvenienced so ACCELERATIONISM" but if Trump starts picking a fight over weed I think it's really going to bite the Republicans in the rear end, cause internal party discord, and just maybe give the Dems enough balls to step up and actually take a stance. There's a spectrum of options here really, and at this point we're all just speculating: -- Administration floats a "gently caress weed" balloon, goes over poorly, pulls it back and tries to sort out the fed-state issue by devolving more power to the states (wildly optimistic best-case scenario) -- Administration just dicks around making vague statements about "eventually, we might crack down or something sometime". It could have a chilling effect on expanding or opening weed businesses, investors may get skittish (they should always be skittish anyway in that field). But the hanging sword should keep people energized to keep moving weed forward, scream at their elected reps, and generally just keep folks from getting complacent until the situation stabilizes somehow. -- Administration does some targeted enforcement, closes a few recreational dispensaries, arrests a few folks. This could end up effectively being just an expanded version of #2 with no real practical fallout (other than the unlucky folks "made an example of") but lots of ticked-off people. Seriously, 8 states worth of congresspeople hollering about how this fucks with their budgets, billion-dollar businesses in multiple states realizing "if you don't get seriously politically active, your investment will tank", etc. -- Administration declares a full-on War on (Recreational) Weed (I'd find it almost unfathomable if they tried to seriously crack down on MMJ), busts a bunch of businesses, maybe arrests some random customers, kicks off a huge kerfuffle that gets them attacks from a dozen possible political angles (killing jobs, wasting DOJ money, etc), and results in absolute disaster. And maybe I'm unduly optimistic, but I really do wonder if they start smacking down states, filing injunctions against governors who legalize, if you'll just get a bunch of governors going "fine, gently caress you, weed possession in my state is now a $15 ticket for a quarter-pound or less, and a lower police priority than jaywalking, and anything the black market does bad we're just going to point at the Feds and say 'these fuckers won't let us have a regulated market'." I think #2 is most likely, but in whatever scenario, I don't seen Trump winning a whole ton of points off this issue, and causing some serious consternation even among Republicans, and likely just pushing public polling for legal weed even higher than the 59% nationwide or whatever it's at. TapTheForwardAssist fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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A reminder that SAM is freaking terrible, and as skilled concern-trolls and the media's go-to "gotta interview both sides" option, one of our more dangerous opponents:quote:Reaction to Spicer’s comments was swift Thursday night.
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:A reminder that SAM is freaking terrible, and as skilled concern-trolls and the media's go-to "gotta interview both sides" option, one of our more dangerous opponents: Could you expect anything less than a SAM going after some high folks? But in all seriousness, is it possible that the issue could be tied into ~foreigners~/Mexico/other drugs and turn the public hostile towards legalization? Or could the mix of legal medical and widening recreational/decrim be enough to prevent that? I just worry that it might even be pushed back to going after MMJ.
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:Administration declares a full-on War on (Recreational) Weed (I'd find it almost unfathomable if they tried to seriously crack down on MMJ) Your analysis is great and much appreciated but I feel like this is a very "reasonable" pre 11/9 mentality to hold. Is cracking down on medical weed really more unfathomable than Jeff "Too Racist to be a Judge in the 80s" becoming Attorney General? Or Breitbart becoming the architect of American domestic and foreign policy? It was unfathomable in an era where Republicans had to worry about winning elections. Based on their recent actions, I don't think we're still living in that era. I think MMJ is a distant priority for the government (gonna stop saying "trump administration", might as well face up that they're the government now) but personally I can't fathom how they won't go after it. It's not a policy issue to these people, it's a culture war.
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# ? Feb 25, 2017 02:02 |
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That's my thinking. There's literally no political upside to going after weed in legal states.
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# ? Feb 25, 2017 02:24 |
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Aging Millenial posted:That's my thinking. There's literally no political upside to going after weed in legal states. I have a sneaking suspicion that is not much of a factor in the Republican decision-making process these days.
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# ? Feb 25, 2017 02:41 |
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So what would happen if legal cannabis states just passed a law saying that it would be considered an over the counter medication with no need for a prescription?
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# ? Feb 25, 2017 03:48 |
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MGDRAGOON posted:So what would happen if legal cannabis states just passed a law saying that it would be considered an over the counter medication with no need for a prescription? The Feds could still jam up distributors for selling a sched 1 controlled substance
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# ? Feb 25, 2017 04:22 |
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Zamujasa posted:But in all seriousness, is it possible that the issue could be tied into ~foreigners~/Mexico/other drugs and turn the public hostile towards legalization? Or could the mix of legal medical and widening recreational/decrim be enough to prevent that? MMJ has always been heavily tied to racial politics and anti-latin sentiment. The whole anti-MMJ thing started as a way to demonize Mexicans, after all.
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# ? Feb 25, 2017 05:03 |
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The Justice Department can't use Federal money to go after MMJ, by an act of Congress. They can try to change the law, but it passed the first time under a Republican Congress so that's unlikely.
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That expires in April
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i don't have strong feelings for or against Obama, but he can go gently caress himself for not taking the five minutes to deschedule during his 8 god drat years
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Google Butt posted:i don't have strong feelings for or against Obama, but he can go gently caress himself for not taking the five minutes to deschedule during his 8 god drat years Seriously, it would have put Trump in a hell of a spot. If he re-schedules it he looks like a huge rear end in a top hat and pisses off pro-pot Republicans.
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WampaLord posted:Seriously, it would have put Trump in a hell of a spot. If he re-schedules it he looks like a huge rear end in a top hat and pisses off pro-pot Republicans. Uh, he hasn't been shy about looking like a huge rear end in a top hat and pissing off tons of Republicans. Have you been asleep since January 20th?
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 01:39 |
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fishmech posted:Uh, he hasn't been shy about looking like a huge rear end in a top hat and pissing off tons of Republicans. Have you been asleep since January 20th? Oh sure, but add another one to the pile. Each thing he does pisses off a different type of Republican till the camel's back breaks. I can't see any downside to Obama having hypothetically done it.
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 01:43 |
So how long until Sessions subpoenas MMJ dispensaries and cross references those records with the gun registry database?
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 01:50 |
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Google Butt posted:So how long until Sessions subpoenas MMJ dispensaries and cross references those records with the gun registry database? That'll be one of the countless (possible) power grabs to come after the first mass shooting or terrorist attack. the black husserl fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Feb 26, 2017 |
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the black husserl posted:That'll be one of the countless power grabs to come after the first mass shooting or terrorist attack. All those private prisons are going to be filled to the brim with people serving 5 years to life for weed.
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 01:55 |
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Google Butt posted:All those private prisons are going to be filled to the brim with people serving 5 years to life for weed. Wall street agrees with you, although the weedsmoking black teens are probably gonna have to fight the undocumented families for bunk space.
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 02:03 |
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Full-legal is looking to be a tough sell in Connecticut this year, but they're proposing a number of interesting partial measures:http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Marijuana-appears-to-be-tough-sell-in-Legislature-10958065.php posted:Marijuana appears to be tough sell in Legislature
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 03:29 |
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Latest from Sessions on cannabis:quote:*He repeated his disdain for drugs, including marijuana. "I don't think America is going to be a better place when more people are smoking pot," he said. Sessions said he was studying an Obama-era memo that sets out priorities for federal prosecution in states which have legalized the drug in some form. The attorney general said he met Monday with his counterpart in the state of Nebraska, who expressed concerns about a "big overflow" of marijuana from Colorado, where the drug is legal. "I'm definitely not a fan of expanded use of marijuana," he said. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/27/517583304/attorney-general-jeff-session-focuses-on-violent-crime-and-police-morale
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# ? Feb 28, 2017 00:46 |
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The nervous attitude the marijuana community currently has is testament to the need for more activism. This helplessness should remind us that there's no right and wrong but only power, and the nexus of the collective interests of law enforcement, career politicians, private prisons and the pharmaceutical industry are more impacting on society than the opinion of weed enthusiasts and those who happen to think marijuana legalization is fine. Sessions is the equivalent of a bigot when it comes to marijuana -- he is proud of his distaste for the substance itself. Just as gay marriage could not have passed without a substantial portion of the population respecting homosexuality itself, so too are we not likely to see marijuana legalization come about quicker without a substantial portion of the population coming to regard marijuana consumption more favorably and tolerably. We need to get to the place where Jeff Sessions feels the need to hold back his opinion on marijuana consumption just like he holds back his opinion on homosexuality.
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# ? Feb 28, 2017 01:11 |
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Point of order: Sessions is a bigot, period. Half the reason people like him hate marijuana is due to its associations with people of color.
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# ? Feb 28, 2017 02:55 |
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Aging Millenial posted:The nervous attitude the marijuana community currently has is testament to the need for more activism. This helplessness should remind us that there's no right and wrong but only power, and the nexus of the collective interests of law enforcement, career politicians, private prisons and the pharmaceutical industry are more impacting on society than the opinion of weed enthusiasts and those who happen to think marijuana legalization is fine. Sessions is the equivalent of a bigot when it comes to marijuana -- he is proud of his distaste for the substance itself. Just as gay marriage could not have passed without a substantial portion of the population respecting homosexuality itself, so too are we not likely to see marijuana legalization come about quicker without a substantial portion of the population coming to regard marijuana consumption more favorably and tolerably. We need to get to the place where Jeff Sessions feels the need to hold back his opinion on marijuana consumption just like he holds back his opinion on homosexuality. I don't think advocating nihilism is the answer here. Prohibition and federal meddling are already unpopular, like 80% unpopular. The general sentiment is so far unconverted into political will because of the problem of diffuse costs and concentrated benefits. What is needed is letter writing campaigns to legislators, raising campaign funds for sympathetic candadites and creating lobbies and caucuses. Populist methods work for state referenda and elitist methods work on the feds.
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SwampDonkey posted:Latest from Sessions on cannabis: Hmm... spillover. AFAIK cannabis is prohibited in some of neighbouring states who are complaining about Colorado. Is the AG arguing that the policy of prohibition isn't able to stop cannabis from crossing the border? Here's a question for the AG: were the laws prohibiting cannabis stopping cannabis from crossing the border before Colorado legalised it? No? You say even more cannabis is crossing the border now? So prohibtion is actually even less effective than you originally believed? The more they complain the better! KingEup fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Feb 28, 2017 |
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