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fadam posted:How come my headbutt will randomly knock people down when I'm in revenge mode? They're not out of stamina or anything. When in revenge mode all knockback moves knock down instead. Conq's shield bash, Warlord's headbutt, Warden's shoulder bash, and Lawbringer's shove.
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Haroshia posted:When in revenge mode all knockback moves knock down instead. Conq's shield bash, Warlord's headbutt, Warden's shoulder bash, and Lawbringer's shove. That's neat. I swear it only happens like half the time, though.
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Feb 25, 2017 19:17
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I just watched a Lawbringer pick up an Orochi, and then a Shugoki came, and grabbed the Orochi from the LB while dude was in the air and broke his back. I love this game.
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Feb 25, 2017 19:28
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Had my first run in with a debuff resist stacker who made it so as a Raider I couldn't even grab into unblockable without getting parried. Also he could parry my poo poo when he was on the ground. This game is loving poo poo with gear.
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Feb 25, 2017 19:37
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Xeremides posted:I love this game.  Haroshia posted:This game is loving poo poo with gear.
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Feb 25, 2017 19:46
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And I just got 360 noscope unblockable clubbed by a Shugoki. I think I'm about done with this game.
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Feb 25, 2017 19:53
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Haroshia posted:And I just got 360 noscope unblockable clubbed by a Shugoki. I think I'm about done with this game. dodge maybe.
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Feb 25, 2017 20:03
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I've never really played any of the 4v4 modes as they don't hold my interest, but yeah.. gear horror stories abound from every corner of the internet. 1v1 and 2v2 are fun and all, but it does tend to get stale after a while. I used to play for an hour or two at a time, but lately it feels like a bit of a skeleton of a game and I'm just going through the motions. Probably just burned out a bit.
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Feb 25, 2017 20:04
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Evil Canadian posted:dodge maybe. It'd be nice if dodge moved you more than 3 inches
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Evil Canadian posted:dodge maybe. It tracks if you dodge too early, which I did. He literally did a 180.
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Feb 25, 2017 20:04
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Haroshia posted:It tracks if you dodge too early, which I did. He literally did a 180. Its got 6 years of startup, why would you dodge early. Hell you got enough time to dodge twice even if you did it on its startup frames.
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Feb 25, 2017 20:05
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Evil Canadian posted:Its got 6 years of startup, why would you dodge early. Cuz I anticipate rather than react. Because that's how fighting games should be. There's just too much inconsistent poo poo in this game for me to take any of it seriously, especially when gear changes the little bit of poo poo that is consistent.
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Feb 25, 2017 20:07
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Aesis posted:Also the amount of steel gain is puny (like 20~40 a game?) compared to what's actually required plus scavenging, so it does encourage micro-transactions for min-maxing or leveling up gears. The amount you get per game is minimal, but you get 300 x 2 each day, plus 100 x like what, up to 8 or 10 contract orders per day? That's like 600 - 1600 steel per day, not counting any of those per-game rewards. The per-game is a drip feed. Orders are where you get steel, dude. There's no need for microtransactions. Play a few days' worth of orders and you're drowning in steel. Aesis posted:
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Feb 25, 2017 20:09
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I wonder how many games you played. I barely have time to play 3~4 games a day.
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Zaphod42 posted:The amount you get per game is minimal, but you get 300 x 2 each day, plus 100 x like what, up to 8 or 10 contract orders per day? That's like 600 - 1600 steel per day, not counting any of those per-game rewards. The per-game is a drip feed. Orders are where you get steel, dude. My current order options are all assassin, AI or skirmish poo poo
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Double Bill posted:My current order options are all assassin or AI poo poo Yeah its definitely not worth doing every single contract order, but still, just doing the dailies is a pretty hefty income and doesn't take long. The contracts are more things I just pick up if I'm doing that game mode anyways. I'm not about to play goddamned skirmish no matter how many orders there are  Can be worth trying out other characters though, if only to learn what options your opponents have. And lots of orders are just "complete" not "win", so you can just lose 2 games real quick and you're done.
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Feb 25, 2017 20:12
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Double Bill posted:My current order options are all assassin or AI poo poo I suggest quitting your job and playing this game 24/7, and then you, too, will come to the conclusion that this game doesn't require microtransactions to compete against other 108s.
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Feb 25, 2017 20:13
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Haroshia posted:Cuz I anticipate rather than react. Because that's how fighting games should be. There's just too much inconsistent poo poo in this game for me to take any of it seriously, especially when gear changes the little bit of poo poo that is consistent. Fighting games are also very much about reaction this is no different. The move has a big arc but if you dodge into the side its starting on its incredibly easy to avoid and like I already stated dodge early enough and you can even dodge again. Only person to blame getting hit by it is you(or getting hit in the back with it in 4v4 is fair enough I suppose).
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Haroshia posted:Cuz I anticipate rather than react. Because that's how fighting games should be. There's just too much inconsistent poo poo in this game for me to take any of it seriously, especially when gear changes the little bit of poo poo that is consistent. Well, I guess then you anticipated wrong. 
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Zaphod42 posted:Can be worth trying out other characters though, if only to learn what options your opponents have. And lots of orders are just "complete" not "win", so you can just lose 2 games real quick and you're done. That's what I do, when its a contract/order for something I don't particularly care for like skirmish/elim, then I just bust out a new character and try to learn them.
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Perestroika posted:Well, I guess then you anticipated wrong. It's like anticipating, and then dodging, an attack in Dark Souls 2, and then the boss spins around with his fist already on the ground and kills you, anyway. You anticipated wrong based on the absurd rules and hitboxes of that game, yes, but gently caress that.
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Feb 25, 2017 20:16
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Here's the UltraChen podcast on For Honor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4wuB6SiDqQ&t=936s Summary: -Game favors defensive play too much -Making a game a tie at time out instead of giving it to the player with the most health is lol -GB counters are too easy -Warden is the best character because of the interaction between top stance lights and zone attack
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Feb 25, 2017 20:19
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quote:-GB counters are too easy  I wish
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Your wish is their command. They're switching it back to the way it was in beta, so you can pretty much just spam the guard break button to counter.
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Feb 25, 2017 20:22
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Xeremides posted:Your wish is their command. They're switching it back to the way it was in beta, so you can pretty much just spam the guard break button to counter. Why do people keep saying this when its 100% false? Its like some weird phenomenon that so many people read the patch notes and come away with entirely the wrong impression. That's not what the words said. Every time somebody posts this they get corrected and it keeps on going.
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Xeremides posted:Your wish is their command. They're switching it back to the way it was in beta, so you can pretty much just spam the guard break button to counter. I'm pretty sure that's not true. They're just adjusting how two guardbreaks interact with each other iirc.
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Zaphod42 posted:Why do people keep saying this when its 100% false? Yeah, they're switching it back to the way it was in beta, so you can pretty much just spam the guard break button to counter.
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Xeremides posted:It's like anticipating, and then dodging, an attack in Dark Souls 2, and then the boss spins around with his fist already on the ground and kills you, anyway. You anticipated wrong based on the absurd rules and hitboxes of that game, yes, but gently caress that. More that the boss wound up, you dodge too early, and the boss then adjusted and targeted your new position. It's simply how this game is set up. Attacks stop tracking only after a certain point in their wind-up. If you get hit anyways, you dodged either too early or too late. The reason it works that way is because otherwise you'd just have to slam the dodge button the moment your opponent does literally anything and be perfectly safe.
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fadam posted:Here's the UltraChen podcast on For Honor: I agree with basically all this, although warden is the strongest not because of top light/zone, but the vortex. If those were the only 2 things that mattered then Peacekeeper and Orochi are way better than the Warden at it. I like the game a lot but there is a lot of flaws like the above for dueling, gear poo poo in 4v4. However I think its a testament to just how plain fun the game is that with all this stuff I see wrong I am still playing it every day. I know at least there is the one balance patch on the way to make Valk less trash, so hopefully they can address these more fundamental issues.
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I don't even play this game anymore. I just sit in the lab and try out dumb things.
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So fun fact. At full stamina regen the Raider 50/50 thing is literally impossible to do since they get stamina back and can parry.
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Evil Canadian posted:I agree with basically all this, although warden is the strongest not because of top light/zone, but the vortex. If those were the only 2 things that mattered then Peacekeeper and Orochi are way better than the Warden at it. Yeah, no kidding. This game is colossally flawed but I've put 50 hours in it and I'm legitimately upset I have school poo poo to do today and can't play it right now.
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Feb 25, 2017 20:39
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Like if you are an assassin character, you cannot get tossed to the ground if you are exhausted provided you spam your guards. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edjHVNAUVu8
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Hypha posted:Like if you are an assassin character, you cannot get tossed to the ground if you are exhausted provided you spam your guards. drat, that's what that is. It's happened a fair few times whilst I'm playing Orochi, and it always makes me stop and think "what the hell, aren't I meant to be falling over right now?" I never put two and two together to realise it's cause of stance changes.
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Red Mundus posted:Speaking of honor. Nothing infuriates me more in this game than losing a match because my teammate insists on following these idiotic imaginary rules and sabotages us. I've had a partner step aside and let me get ganged up on because he disapproved of my cliffing someone the previous round, or because I helped him out after I wrapped up my initial opponent. And then of course he dies like an idiot when he's ganged up on afterward, the whole while disavowing me like I'm a leper for making the most of the game's mechanics. There. Is. A mode for your precious 1v1 Klingon warrior wankery. It is 1v1, and I've played and enjoyed it. Get in there and stay there. Buck Wildman fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Feb 25, 2017 |
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Hypha posted:Like if you are an assassin character, you cannot get tossed to the ground if you are exhausted provided you spam your guards. I had that happen multiple times with a Shugoki who accused me of lag switching when I tackled him off a cliff. I gotta think he was doing this.
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Feb 25, 2017 20:53
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I remember when games were released fully featured and relatively bug free. Ahhh the good old days.
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Evil Canadian posted:However I think its a testament to just how plain fun the game is that with all this stuff I see wrong I am still playing it every day. It feels like every videogame I play nowadays is like this. I have tons of fun with them but its frustrating how glaringly obvious some of the flaws are. Maybe this is what its like to be old and unable to overlook stuff 
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Duck and Cover posted:I remember when games were released fully featured and relatively bug free. Ahhh the good old days. I don't.
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Duck and Cover posted:I remember when games were released fully featured and relatively bug free. Ahhh the good old days. At least Torment: Tides of Numenera is coming out in 3 days. I'm sure that will be a bug free release like inXile's previous titles. 
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I love playing this game but to be honest with myself it has more to do with the fact that their isn't another game like this. Otherwise I'd probably play that instead and run screaming from Ubisoft's incompetence. As an aside I just learned there isn't any auto-kick idle in place so at high levels people are just standing in place afk during dominion.
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