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Yinlock posted:also voting in an extremely pro-union person at a time when unions are under direct attack from all sides is actually really good you're a truth is in the middle piece of poo poo (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Yinlock posted:also voting in an extremely pro-union person at a time when unions are under direct attack from all sides is actually really good BUT DID HE HAVE BERNIES ENDORSEMENT BECAUSE IF NOT ITS ACTUALLY A loving DISASTER AND A PERSONAL INSULT
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Lessail posted:you're a truth is in the middle piece of poo poo what?
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Probably Magic posted:Look at the statements that came from Howard Dean, Barney Frank, DWS, etc. during the primary and tell me it wasn't very personal for them to stop any support for Sanders or any possible imprint he could have on the party. i think the mistake youre making here is assuming that theres some kind of unitary body calling these shots, like theres a room full of people and obama skypes in from his parasailing trip to issue marching orders to gently caress over Ellison instead the room is full of people who dont know what the gently caress to do and they all have their own networks of people shouting at them, and theyre arguing and horse-trading and pulling in different directions.
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Tom Perez is so pro union he supported the TPP
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Shear Modulus posted:Tom Perez is so pro union he supported the TPP I think you'll find right to work is actually woke af
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paranoid randroid posted:i think the mistake youre making here is assuming that theres some kind of unitary body calling these shots, like theres a room full of people and obama skypes in from his parasailing trip to issue marching orders to gently caress over Ellison and the conservatives aren't having any luck in their town halls with congressional republicans and i dunno whether to find that hilarious, sad, or hilarisad
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Grondoth posted:You're a canadian Please leave your Canadiaphobia at the door please.
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Lessail posted:you're fine with perez you don't get a high horse lol All the candidates were equal in my eyes except for the lobbyist and the butt guy I would have cheered if the buttman won, whined if the lobbyist won, and don't give a gently caress about any of the rest of them
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Shear Modulus posted:Tom Perez is so pro union he supported the TPP now now, that doesn't mean he's anti-union it just means he's willing to be so if someone tells him to be
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Grondoth posted:You're a canadian oh hey, it's been maybe a month since i've seen this one
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paranoid randroid posted:i think the mistake youre making here is assuming that theres some kind of unitary body calling these shots, like theres a room full of people and obama skypes in from his parasailing trip to issue marching orders to gently caress over Ellison I mean, obviously not because it was split, but it's disheartening to know that Sanders endorsement holds so little power that it didn't really decide anything. It signals that Dems in general feel they don't need to listen to the other side, which begs question of why they think they lost in the general in so many columns.
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I'm Afraid of Canadians https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7APmRkatEU
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seeing them like this is the problem here, for the record
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this is not the 2016 democratic primary, shut up about the 2016 democratic primary
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Oh Snapple! posted:now now, that doesn't mean he's anti-union  I'd love for Perez to prove that wrong, and the time has come for him to do so
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MizPiz posted:I think you'll find right to work is actually woke af I look forward to reading your post on how the Trans-Pacific Partnership is connected to state right to work laws lol.
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Yinlock posted:seeing them like this is the problem here, for the record Ah, thanks, for Correcting the Record.
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Baloogan posted:I'm Afraid of Canadians Pro link.
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Montasque posted:Also Yinlock won't be so smug once Shark Tank Guy becomes PM of Canada. i'm more confused than smug
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Ace of Baes posted:Ah, thanks, for Correcting the Record. you're welcome
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Yinlock posted:this is not the 2016 democratic primary, shut up about the 2016 democratic primary You're right, it's the 2016 GE, because the Democrats are shooting themselves in the loving feet.
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Ace of Baes posted:You're right, it's the 2016 GE, because the Democrats are shooting themselves in the loving feet. aaaaAAAAAAAAAA
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Ace of Baes posted:You're right, it's the 2016 GE, because the Democrats are shooting themselves in the loving feet. I think we heard the arguments from bad dems for why Hillary was unbeatable.
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Yinlock posted:seeing them like this is the problem here, for the record When the usual suspects keep saying the same thing each and every time, all evidence to the contrary, it gets tedious.
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Lessail posted:what a boring rear end loving post. you have it saved from when perez first announced? It's recycled primary chat with butt guy plugged in. Bad dems never learn.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:why would people be so worried about him caving under any sort of pressure at all? they have the same positions after all to be absolutely fair, i did find myself incredibly disappointed with ellison a few times during this whole mess (the stuff MP mentioned) and I essentially told myself that this was stuff he had to do due to the nature of this specific vote. I'll even contend that this likely would have been settled on round 1 if he'd done differently on any single one of those things.
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Probably Magic posted:When the usual suspects keep saying the same thing each and every time, all evidence to the contrary, it gets tedious. lol why do i bother
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Better to yell at Stein voters than win any back. Or get anyone back, really. The masters of compromise and inaccessibility simultaneously forever and forever.
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Probably Magic posted:I mean, obviously not because it was split, but it's disheartening to know that Sanders endorsement holds so little power that it didn't really decide anything. It signals that Dems in general feel they don't need to listen to the other side, which begs question of why they think they lost in the general in so many columns. Just because someone voted for Bernie over Clinton doesn't mean they're guaranteed to vote for whoever Bernie endorses; plenty of Obama voters didn't follow Obama's endorsement, after all. Some of Bernie's supporters were diehards who worship the ground he walks on, of course, but others were people who just liked his message more than Hillary's - and the latter group is far more important to the Dems right now than the former. As long as they get someone with the right message, policies, and priorities, whether or not he gets the Bernie endorsement isn't that important.
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Oh Snapple! posted:to be absolutely fair, i did find myself incredibly disappointed with ellison a few times during this whole mess (the stuff MP mentioned) and I essentially told myself that this was stuff he had to do due to the nature of this specific vote. I'll even contend that this likely would have been settled on round 1 if he'd done differently on any single one of those things. 
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Shear Modulus posted:It owns that the Clinton and Obama Dems would rather stay kings of a smoking crater of a party then give up the slightest bit of power to empower a mammoth wave of grassroots support. so are we ignoring the whole deputy chair thing, pretty sure that's giving the slightest bit of power jesus christ
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