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jon joe posted:I recently had a 50 AC gargoyle run ended by water elementals, of all things, in Shoals. Do their attacks ignore AC? Nope. And gargoyles are unbreathing so their attack doesn't even have its side effect, which does ignore AC. Edit: Although it still might slow you down if you try to move away from them when engulfed, actually. You just wouldn't take the asphyxiation damage or be silenced. Double edit: vvvv the attack doesn't ignore AC as it's just a hit, but it has a chance of engulfing you, which does the AC-ignoring asphyxiation damage. As opposed to water nymphs, who just do asphyxiation damage with every attack as they have touch:drown. Either way, gargoyles don't breathe. Prism fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Feb 25, 2017 |
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jon joe posted:I recently had a 50 AC gargoyle run ended by water elementals, of all things, in Shoals. Do their attacks ignore AC? Asphyxiation does, yes. Gargoyles should be immune to it though?
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Feb 25, 2017 17:35
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You use acquire gold when there is a cool unrandart in a shop you found on D:6 or so and if you just had some more gold you could totally go buy it and have fun.
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I've seen it thrown around a few times but I'd like to know if devs have ever had a serious discussion about making spells like rmsl and ozos into reserved mana spells. As in, you cast ozos and it's on you forever but reduced your maxhp while it was on. I know the fear is that people will cast it at 90% fail until it sticks, but that has an easy workaround: it can be permanent once you get it under 5% fail or w/e. This doesn't really solve the core issues with charms but I think it's a step in the right direction.
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Chakan posted:I've seen it thrown around a few times but I'd like to know if devs have ever had a serious discussion about making spells like rmsl and ozos into reserved mana spells. As in, you cast ozos and it's on you forever but reduced your maxhp while it was on. I know the fear is that people will cast it at 90% fail until it sticks, but that has an easy workaround: it can be permanent once you get it under 5% fail or w/e. This doesn't really solve the core issues with charms but I think it's a step in the right direction. This exact idea has been discussed thoroughly and the general consensus is no, it's not going to happen. Turning Charms into free equipment slots at the price of a few MP is... not great. You could limit it to only one active Charm at any given time but that doesn't really solve the fundamental issue here. It also doesn't address that many characters simply don't care one bit about losing a bit of max MP. It'd primarily affect spellcasting-oriented characters.
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jon joe posted:I recently had a 50 AC gargoyle run ended by water elementals, of all things, in Shoals. Do their attacks ignore AC? Water elementals have armor piercing attacks idiot.
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Feb 25, 2017 18:08
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What's an "armor piercing attacks idiot"?
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SKULL.GIF posted:This exact idea has been discussed thoroughly and the general consensus is no, it's not going to happen. Turning Charms into free equipment slots at the price of a few MP is... not great. You could limit it to only one active Charm at any given time but that doesn't really solve the fundamental issue here. You could rework the spell school into something entirely different where this won't happen. I.E. you would need to hit an exp threshold with spellcasting/charms before it's usable at all, (maybe even flexible /threshold is higher or impossible in plate) Not a percent failure.
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Decrepus posted:Water elementals have armor piercing attacks idiot. And as pointed out in previous posts, while engulf status is asphyxiation and bypasses AC it does not affect unbreathing species, such as gargoyles that jon joe was playing.
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Kaedric posted:Petition to have monk background do more with Gozag than let you save 20 gold pieces. Yeah, saving the entry fee is honestly really wimpy compared to starting at ** piety with other gods. It should be something like an extra free Potion Petition or a free shop in addition to the free PP.
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Feb 25, 2017 18:51
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Guess it was just an incredibly unlucky combination of rolls, then. There were quite a few of the water elementals.
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Goodpancakes posted:You could rework the spell school into something entirely different where this won't happen. I.E. you would need to hit an exp threshold with spellcasting/charms before it's usable at all, (maybe even flexible /threshold is higher or impossible in plate) Not a percent failure. Some effects are just not meant to be spells. Often, they can be salvaged in other form: consumable, god power, item property -- all of these have been done.
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I'm going to scalp the dev who thought it would be a good idea to make an Ice Cave with two loving Ice Fiends in it.
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fool_of_sound posted:I'm going to scalp the dev who thought it would be a good idea to make an Ice Cave with two loving Ice Fiends in it. There's a reason the common wisdom regarding Scrolls of Acquirement is "bnever benter bicecaves!"
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Ice fiends are big babies. If you can fight ice dragons or frost giants you can kill an ice fiend. The things I find scariest in ice caves are ice devils, ice statues, and freezing wraiths in that order.
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Bring back Phase Shift, make it cross-pathed with Charms.
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Yea I just had that ice cave the other day, I just assumed their tiles where ice devils until my hp instantly hit red. Fun times!
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dpeg posted:Unless something has changed recently, Monks get to waive the Gozag service fee. Which usually is more than 20$. I suppose the number could get bigger if you waited a super long time before joining Gozag but I tend to find an altar by D:5 and it just kinda feels :| compared to say, I dunno, generating a free food shop or potion petition. My throwing out of 20 was just example/hyperbole. LORD OF BOOTY posted:Yeah, saving the entry fee is honestly really wimpy compared to starting at ** piety with other gods. It should be something like an extra free Potion Petition or a free shop in addition to the free PP. ^ this EDIT: Ru's benefit also seems rather lame as a monk, but I can kinda see where that one is coming from.
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fwiw, i'm pretty sure the 2x fiend cave is one of the 'hard' ice caves, only showing up in lair branches or elf. tough, but not that insane compared to what you're facing by then!
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Every time I enter an ice cave I regret it. Second place is probably baileys, which I regret like 1/3 of the time.
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I never regret ice caves because I can always back up and walk out the exit at the start, so it's at least free XP as far as I'm concerned
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Optional portals put blinders on me 100% of the time
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IronicDongz posted:I never regret ice caves because I can always back up and walk out the exit at the start, so it's at least free XP as far as I'm concerned Yeah this is true of almost every single portal vault, there's always an exit almost immediately adjacent to the entrance so you can always leave safely. The only exceptions are the polearm bailey where you start surrounded by javelin centaurs, maybe one wizlab, and labyrinths.
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Darox posted:The only exceptions are the polearm bailey where you start surrounded by javelin centaurs I only got this bailey once and it left me wondering just how the gently caress most characters are meant to clear it. Its insanely cruel.
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 MiMo^WJC is so badass they punch orbs of destruction Cleared the entirety of Zot:5 lungs with heaven on earth, I like this god apple fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Feb 26, 2017 |
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Frogs got some weird changes:quote:Give Barachians LOS 8 (gammafunk)
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i don't think having more line of sight is going to make the frogs any less boring
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Why would the favored servant of the holy gods (stop calling them good it ruins my  flavor ) be loving frogs though
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Make WJC's Young Tiger additive with Barachian hop, if hop is ready to go when YT is invoked. E: I haven't played either, please don't nerf them before I get around to it.
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Internet Kraken posted:Why would the favored servant of the holy gods (stop calling them good it ruins my Because Everquest did it with Frogloks I guess?
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Won  I've gotten a bunch of characters pretty far, but this is my first win since coming back to Crawl. Psyched! Decided to just go with an easy combo and not get too cocky re: going for extra runes.
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What happened to that change where enemies could become supercharged? I'm not seeing any recent complaints so either its still in but not so bad or removed.
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Pretty sure its still an experimental branch. If it ever got into trunk you'd definitely see a lot of complaints about it again.
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Johnny Joestar posted:i don't think having more line of sight is going to make the frogs any less boring It's a change that makes them substantially different from others species and adds a lot of danger to the game. Giving them excellent all around aptitudes and a built in escape tool on top of that seems really fun! I particularly love high aptitudes, though, since it feels like you've got so much more stuff going on with your character. Internet Kraken posted:Why would the favored servant of the holy gods (stop calling them good it ruins my Why wouldn't they be? I particularly like this little bit of absurdity. Who's to say the good/holy gods aren't frogs themselves?
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+1 to LOS would make the game feel significantly different IMO, and they get some nice buffs to go along with it. LOS change is not all bad either; it's a nice buff for full-screen spells and abilities since you will potentially affect more things per cast.
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Internet Kraken posted:Why would the favored servant of the holy gods (stop calling them good it ruins my Look, just because they're holy doesn't mean they can't get in on some of that sweet, sweet amphibian intercourse.
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btw definitely don't give Dith any more stupid awful gameplay restrictions based on flavor when they still have the dumb fire conductapple posted:+1 to LOS would make the game feel significantly different IMO, and they get some nice buffs to go along with it. LOS change is not all bad either; it's a nice buff for full-screen spells and abilities since you will potentially affect more things per cast.
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I still find it weird the spooky shadow god hates fire but doesn't give a gently caress about like, Corona.
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