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idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

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Yeah, one has to assume that he wouldn't voluntarily give up Beatrice. Plus, it's dramatically appropriate that all four options get covered, and the bunnies picked the first three.

So, to take this scene in a real-world context, all we have to do is take the demons out of it and imagine them being offered this choice by one of the servants with a gun. You could just send Kanon to talk to George and Shannon to Jessica, for instance.

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DLord
Apr 28, 2013
It simple what Kinzo picks for all his current choice of killing everyone. It is the fourth choice which he did for years and years. So for all his talk about will he fails his own test.

The real answer is number 5 "Stop the Killer."

tiistai
Nov 1, 2012

Solo Melodica

Mister Olympus posted:

Yeah, Kinzo defs killed his family.

But his family is alive :confused:

Well, mostly, at this point

bman in 2288
Apr 21, 2010
They mean back when Kinzo was forced to become head.

Quinn2win
Nov 9, 2011

Foolish child of man...
After reading all this,
do you still not understand?
So, what do you think our new would-be successors are going to pick?

SardonicTyrant
Feb 26, 2016

BTICH IM A NEWT
熱くなれ夢みた明日を
必ずいつかつかまえる
走り出せ振り向くことなく
&



Well, what are Maria and Battler's number two choices?

Maria: Rosa?

Battler: Oppai?

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??

ProfessorProf posted:

So, what do you think our new would-be successors are going to pick?

Maria because she'll blurt out "all of the above!" and Kinzo will be impressed by that because he's nutso

bman in 2288
Apr 21, 2010
Yeah, it does seem that Maria would be quick about making a choice. I'm hesitant to say Battler will do better than George or Jessica, he's incompetent and gets stuck a lot.

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

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ProfessorProf posted:

So, what do you think our new would-be successors are going to pick?

Huh. That's a really good question.

I don't think either of them is likely to pick "kill the person I love" or "kill literally everybody else". Even if I imagine one of them as a murder culprit (as I've considered George a couple of times now), they each have other family members they don't want dead. They could commit suicide, but they already know that the other kids will be brought in and given a test (possibly the same one), so it may amount to the same thing as killing everyone anyway.

Let's see. I'll guess that Jessica will try to punch Ronove and George will try to talk his way around Gaap. I don't expect either of those things to work.

Ralphomon
Feb 14, 2014

SardonicTyrant posted:

Well, what are Maria and Battler's number two choices?

Maria: Rosa?

Battler: Oppai?

I'd imagine Battler's would be Kyrie, given she's a hostage and he has a sort of big-sister/little-brother relationship with her.

As for what they'll choose, dunno? Georgie would probably choose himself, because he's that kind of self-sacrificing lawful good. Jessica I'm not sure, I can imagine her not choosing at all, or prevarication enough to fail - or is that more Battler's style? And given Maria's obsession with everyone coming back to life in the Golden Land, she either won't care and just pick a random choice or say everyone else.

curiousCat
Sep 23, 2012

Does this look like the face of mercy, kupo?
Maria and Battler have to have a different test, here. This only works for the older siblings... and only because of who's around. You could offer Battler the same choice with child Ange as the crux, but she's not around for him to take that threat credibly. ...I feel like they're both going to choose themselves, but only after a period long enough for Kinzo to declare the test failed due to hesitation.

Fabulousvillain
May 2, 2015
I have no clue who Battler and Maria's second choice might be, so I'll just guess what choices would be taken. Battler would pick number one cause he seems like the heroically stupid type given the opportunity. Jessica would pick number two since she thinks Kanon would understand her choice and accept it. George would pick number three since he's madly in love with Shanon and Beatrice has been foreshadowing him having a dark side to him and that seems like a good opportunity to show it. Maria would pick number three because she has no one left and witches are real, so get hosed.

Mister Olympus
Oct 31, 2011

Buzzard, Who Steals From Dead Bodies

Fabulousvillain posted:

I have no clue who Battler and Maria's second choice might be, so I'll just guess what choices would be taken. Battler would pick number one cause he seems like the heroically stupid type given the opportunity. Jessica would pick number two since she thinks Kanon would understand her choice and accept it. George would pick number three since he's madly in love with Shanon and Beatrice has been foreshadowing him having a dark side to him and that seems like a good opportunity to show it. Maria would pick number three because she has no one left and witches are real, so get hosed.

Maria is a hard one. You could argue very strongly for #2 being Rosa, and also very strongly against that--maybe it's "Rosa, without the bad witch in her?"

avoraciopoctules
Oct 22, 2012

What is this kid's DEAL?!

drat. Another case of unfortunate wording. I wonder if anyone's gonna dare Kinzo to launch his nuclear arsenal and kill "everyone else" in the world. Or even just start taking out his demon minions.

EagerSleeper
Feb 3, 2010

by R. Guyovich
I've reached a point where I think I got this murder mystery solved, so I'll just sit back and enjoy the desiring that's going on. :munch:

edit: here's an idea I whipped up for Shiny's LP of Umineko back when we were in chapter 3, but only actually made thanks to this thread being available.

EagerSleeper fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Feb 25, 2017

SardonicTyrant
Feb 26, 2016

BTICH IM A NEWT
熱くなれ夢みた明日を
必ずいつかつかまえる
走り出せ振り向くことなく
&



:allears: This thread is the real Golden Land.

oath2order
Oct 12, 2013

It's MAGIC. I don't have to explain shit!


EagerSleeper posted:

I've reached a point where I think I got this murder mystery solved, so I'll just sit back and enjoy the desiring that's going on. :munch:

edit: here's an image I whipped up for Shiny's LP of Umineko back when we were in chapter 3.


Wait did you read ahead or spoil yourself? Don't get cocky, now.

If you're just pretty sure you've got this all under wraps, you should PM prof your theory so he can share it with us and we can laugh at you because magic is real.

oath2order fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Feb 25, 2017

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

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EagerSleeper posted:

I've reached a point where I think I got this murder mystery solved, so I'll just sit back and enjoy the desiring that's going on. :munch:

Oh, you mean the overall one, not the one for this particular board? Well, of course I have my own theory on that.

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PNYMFXHAIYVQXHOHORTWMSEBPGYQSGGQWJRZOAMJUOLINLJQYKRECYHIYOMLJLPJAAVMPPWWILOAOMHLANJNOHGBOU
IQQKXVOQSAARQUIZJDGJXQMEOLRMEBRUHPOMZEVTVLUTUNEWMRDABSLKSWUNPGYIPMZKPUIUAZHYUTUYJCVVOCOOLKA
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JVVJWAHWRCGYHAAEAJTTZELCQUUBVVNVUTVHTSAPMKZCNIYZXYETUKVLVWZFVFPVPZSMAJUZTFLTPZDNKKEKXYWOICTS
ARCXVLQTUVQOCQFZNICCJMSGICEOAPWABQOGYIRAQIGOIKLRLWFYLOGECHOYDSVCINEDOURPWEEVKPVIPEBCDPYHEGYETP
HUUHWGMKWHVVMLJYDSPFUNTJWTTXFCRZVHRFGVMNSARMOUMTIGKCWLKMYHAFYCVBVYNLXLCLVNQLYYIRETUKKIISNFP
RVEYPSUWYYYUEUIRPDMPRYDMXZTJEYEDAROPNTOHKPOGQBVUQFXZNEWSRDELCFJYOAAESTMQMVHR

Not a lock, of course, but I favor it.

oath2order
Oct 12, 2013

It's MAGIC. I don't have to explain shit!


Good job solving the epitaph, there.

Kinu Nishimura
Apr 24, 2008

SICK LOOT!

EagerSleeper posted:

I've reached a point where I think I got this murder mystery solved, so I'll just sit back and enjoy the desiring that's going on. :munch:

Isn't it crazy how it turned out that Gohda, Kinzo, Kasumi, Amakusa, and Maria were all the same person at different points in a time-travelling lifespan?

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

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I don't think I ever mentioned why I seized on the idea of the answer-in-a-bottle thing early on, when it was a relatively unimportant detail. So maybe I'll tell a story about one of the most famous murder mysteries of all time, And Then There Were None by Agatha Christie. It's well-known for the complexity of the mystery, which is quite satisfactory, and the extremely unfortunate original title, which I absolutely refuse to reproduce here. The central conceit of the mystery is that ten people are gathered on an island owned by a mysterious and reclusive person (or persons), installed in a mansion, and then isolated by a terrible storm. They are presented with a children's rhyme, and then they begin to be killed off, one by one, in a manner that at least superficially matches what's said in the rhyme. As the paranoia generally increases, they begin to wonder if someone else is on the island or if one of the people involved is actually a murderer. And, of course, as one might say, when the gulls cry the next day...

In any event, the solution to the mystery is fished up in a bottle. The murderer wanted to create a perfect locked-room mystery, but also had to reveal how they did it, and used the mechanism of the message-in-a-bottle as a way of confessing without actually confessing, and leaving it to fate to decide whether the solution to the mystery would become known. (The solution, incidentally, depends on one of the people appearing to be dead when they actually aren't.) Sometimes it can be quite tempting to say something and not say it at the same time.

EagerSleeper
Feb 3, 2010

by R. Guyovich
I haven't read any spoilers, nor have I figured out the total mystery yet, but I think I got this chapter done pat but I don't know yet what it would mean if my suspicions were correct for the other chapters. I'll just stick with shitposting here, and eagerly await how the rest of the chapter plays out to see if I'm correct and see if other people have the same hunch I do. I'm probably wrong on a lot of things, but I think I know already who committed the murders we've seen so far.


alcharagia posted:

Isn't it crazy how it turned out that Gohda, Kinzo, Kasumi, Amakusa, and Maria were all the same person at different points in a time-travelling lifespan?

Time travel is pretty hosed up imo. You know how in a lot of time travel stories, a guy usually becomes his own grandpa? This is kinda like the same thing, only it's Battler hitting on his own cousins.

tiistai
Nov 1, 2012

Solo Melodica
I don't understand why you're being so coy, Umineko is a group effort

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

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EagerSleeper posted:

Time travel is pretty hosed up imo. You know how in a lot of time travel stories, a guy usually becomes his own grandpa? This is kinda like the same thing, only it's Battler hitting on his own cousins.

If you want a picture of the future, imagine Battler, hitting on gender-swapped versions of himself, forever.

Quinn2win
Nov 9, 2011

Foolish child of man...
After reading all this,
do you still not understand?


"..."

As Jessica stared at the letter that had been crushed and lay on the floor, she hung her head in constant silence. All that filled the room was the stir from wind and rain shaking the treetops. Regardless of how noisy that was, it actually made the stillness more apparent. Ronove waited for Jessica's answer.

...However, Jessica didn't answer. Whether she was lost in deep thought or had stopped thinking, Ronove couldn't tell. No, he might actually have known. But cruelly, like a demon, Ronove urged Jessica to voice it.

"...If you cannot choose any, I can at least bring you peace without pain, but..."
"...me."
"...Yes? I had trouble hearing. Could you say it again please...?"

Jessica lifted her face... and looked straight into Ronove's eyes. It seemed that she had decided on her answer.



BGM: Moon

Jessica said it one more time, clearly. Perhaps Ronove had imagined that this would be her answer from the very beginning. Without any surprise, he smiled lightly and nodded.

"...I thought you would choose that answer, Jessica-sama. Well then, there is no right or wrong answer to this test. The essential part is what thoughts led you to that answer. Come now. Please answer with a fitting attitude for the Successor."
"...It's not like I chose the first one 'cause I wanna die. The second one was letting Kanon-kun die. Of course, that was out of the question. So I excluded it. The third one was everyone else's lives. Of course, that was also out of the question. So I excluded it. After that, only the first choice remained."
"Process of elimination, is it? So, it was not something you chose proactively..."

After chuckling slightly, Ronove dropped his gaze. A Human couldn't even imagine what answer a demon would have been expecting. All she could understand was that this was apparently slightly below Ronove's expectations.

"...That answer is neither bad nor good. 60 percent, I believe you could call it. I'm a little disappointed."
"You're a pretty selfish bastard, telling me to answer with self-confidence and then being disappointed when I do."
"...Apparently there was more to it than process of elimination. It's a failing grade either way, but there seems to be a little more to your thoughts. Allow me to ask."
"People don't want to die. So no one would want to choose the first option. People want to live in happiness... and struggle as much as life will let them. So normally, the first choice should be impossible from the beginning."
"...However, you took that first choice. You chose to throw away your own life. Only that choice remained for you."



"...Hoh. And what did you see...?"
"First, I tried letting Kanon-kun die. I tried to imagine the rest of my life after having abandoned the one I love."
"What kind of life was it...?"
"It was a horrible woman, who didn't deserve to live. A shabby woman who always lamented her own decision and lived only to regret. I could never forgive a horrible woman who'd choose to live and abandon the person she loved. I put an end to her myself."
"Heheh, how brave. So, did you also consider the third option?"
"...Yeah. I tried letting everyone but me and Kanon-kun die. There's no way Kanon-kun would like me if I did that."
"So again, even with Kanon-kun, I was forced to bear the cross of abandoning so many people. And even Kanon-kun was forced to bear it."
"...I'm not gonna make a foolish choice that leaves Kanon-kun bearing that cross. I wouldn't be able to forgive a future me who did something like that. I put an end to that woman myself too."

Jessica had pictured it in her mind. The future her beyond each of the three choices. There were three Jessicas. Of the three, two had regrets. Only one could hold her head high and smile at Kanon.

"...You know, I once had the nerve to preach something to Kanon-kun. Something about trying to live life to the fullest."
"Live your life to the fullest. Meaningful words. And a surprisingly difficult thing to do."
"So yeah. I've gotta stand proud and show Kanon-kun. Show him how to live by holding your head high and looking straight at the sun, with a full smile."
"...Will Kanon be able to accept your self-sacrifice? Haven't you thought that your selfish decision might hurt him more than is necessary...?"
"That's why... I want to leave a message..."
"Hoh. I will listen, but I am after all a demon. I may not keep my promises, you see?"
"...Keep it! Your promise!"

Jessica spoke that looking quite unconcerned. She had asked the demon who was about to take her life to pass on a message, and she didn't think at all that she would be betrayed. At that extremely innocent smile, Ronove closed his eyes lightly and shrugged his shoulders.

"Hmph... I see nothing wrong with that. So? What shall I tell him...?"



"...Mi...lady..."
"...Jessica, you really are..."
"Ronove is fickle, so he might not have passed the message on. You certainly are fortunate to have me here showing you this scene."

A musty three-sided mirror was set beyond the bars, and the scene with Jessica was reflected on it. On the next mirror, the scene with George was reflected in the same way. None of them questioned how a three-sided mirror had appeared from a group of butterflies, nor did they wonder why these scenes with Jessica and George were reflected on it. Because the reflected scenes themselves were more important.

"...Are you so prepared... to throw your life away... for his sake...?"
"...My... apologies..."

Krauss looked at Kanon with a complicated expression mixed in with a bitter smile. Kanon wouldn't meet his eyes.

"...Virgilia-sama, there is no reason for Milady to throw away her life. Please kill me. Please change it to the second choice. That way, everything should resolve itself."
"Hohhohohohohoho... I am not capable of granting that wish. After all, this is Jessica's own decision, which she herself chose."

At that time, suddenly, the air split and the Chiester Sisters appeared, flying into Virgilia's chest.



"So mean, so mean, Lord Goldsmith is so meeeeeeeeaan, waaaaaaaaahhhh!"
"I'm... doing the best I can... Crushing me for animal fodder, that's just too much. Uuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!"

Virgilia, who still didn't have a clue what was going on, was mobbed by the sobbing Chiester Sisters.

"Th-There, there. Everything's all right, don't cry... I'll make you some delicious tea..."
"...I'm leaving it up to you all to guard this place. If they do anything suspicious, inform me immediately...!"

The goat attendants all faced each other, nodding their heads. Virgilia took the Chiester Sisters and left. The sound of them going up stairs could be heard, so they had probably gone to an upper floor.



Kyrie realized that an opportunity had arrived, but even so, she hadn't thought of a way to break the metal bars...

The Jessica reflected on the three-sided mirror had her eyes closed, as though in contemplation. The way she had both hands stuck into her pockets, wanting to be defiant until the very end, might have been her own aesthetic stance.



"...Understood. Well then, fear not, for I shall make your death more gentle and merciful than any sleep."

As Ronove raised his palm, he slowly approached Jessica...



Realizing that his daughter was about to be killed, Krauss went half-mad and repeatedly body-slammed the metal bars. The goats looked like they were sneering at how a mere Human didn't stand a chance at breaking those bars. Krauss's pointless efforts certainly may have been comical. But Krauss was giving it everything he had. He was now living with all he had as Jessica's father, so that he could save her.

...Kanon made tight fists with both hands. If he used his cursed power, he might be able to cut through even metal bars. But there were a full three goats. There was no way he could defeat three of them in an instant. It would instantly be reported, and then even Virgilia and the Chiester Sisters would probably dash in. Even if he could break the bars, that would be the end of it. It was useless. Kanon already knew that the witch sneered at useless efforts like that, so he could do nothing but stare at Krauss's repeated body-slams...

"...Ah, George-sama..."

Shannon, who had been looking at the three-sided mirror, raised her voice. When they looked, they could see George, who had been silent the whole time, lift his face. It seemed that George had also decided on an answer...



"Yeah. I've decided."
"Is it an unwavering answer...?"
"Yeah. It's unwavering."
"Then let me hear it. Oh, by the way, it seems Jessica decided to take the 'your life' option. Surely, such an indecisive person as you isn't going to choose the same answer, right...?"
"...Jessica gave her own answer. No matter which choice that was, it was Jessica's answer. It doesn't influence my answer in any way."
"I see. Then let me ask again. Among the three mentioned below, in order to gain two, sacrifice one. 1. Your life. 2. Shannon's life. 3. Everyone else's lives. Which one will you choose? Could it be the first one, like Jessica?"
"...Wrong."
"Oh...?"

Gaap looked a little surprised. Because she had thought this timid-looking man would obviously choose that option.

"...Very well then. I'm glad the most boring option for me has been removed. Then, as crazy as it sounds, could it be the second option? Can you abandon Shannon's life...?"
"...You must be joking. Why would I do that to the person I was going to give an engagement ring to tonight?"
"...How bold. Is that your answer...?"



BGM: Rose

George took... the third option. 'Everyone else's... lives'.

Unsurprisingly, Gaap hadn't imagined that he'd give an answer like that. She had been sure that he'd choose the same one as Jessica... So, she was interested in how he had reached that answer. How he had reached an answer that had surpassed the imagination of the 33rd ranked of the 72 demons?

"I want you to tell me. I want you to tell me the circumstances that made it possible for you to sacrifice the lives of everyone else so that you and the fiancée you love would be safe. Did you use the process of elimination, like Jessica?"
"Wrong. I clearly have no choice except this one."
"...So, you don't care what happens, as long as it's good for you? So, you can sacrifice the world for the woman you love...?"
"What are you even talking about?"
"...What...?"

George faced the demon as he spoke, almost as though he was disgusted.

"...Tonight, I planned on calling Shannon right here and giving her this ring as proof of our engagement. There probably are quite a few people who wouldn't celebrate an engagement between me and Shannon. I was prepared to make enemies of the entire family by announcing my engagement to her."
"I have been prepared. Since the time I came to this island... no, that's not it. Since the time I confessed that I wanted to engage her."
"...So, you can sacrifice everything else as long as you can get married...?"
"Marriage means... continuing to be your wife's ally for your whole life. At that point, I was prepared to have the entire world as my enemy for her sake."



Shannon certainly had promised to be given an engagement ring tonight. Then, this incident had occurred, and she hadn't been able to receive the ring. But now...

...Even though it wasn't in the form of a ring, Shannon had received something even greater. And as proof of that, a single tear with the same sparkle as a diamond... dripped down.



"After all, your parents were already killed on the first twilight, right? By now, there's no one whose death would trouble you. Hahhahahahahahaha, I see, truly an easy choice. Ahahahahahahahaha..."
"Say whatever you want. This determination and choice are mine, and mine as the Successor."

The sparkle in George's eyes was brilliantly sharp. For just an instant, Gaap felt the same sense of threat as Kinzo's... and was slightly overwhelmed.

"...I see. Yes, the same decision as Goldsmith... So even with your innocent face, you will also become a terrible demon in the future. What do you know, we might get along pretty well."
"You will succeed Goldsmith. Eventually, I may even be summoned and serve you. That could be surprisingly interesting. Heheh."

Gaap had needed to change her opinion of George. This man bore a determination and resolve unimaginable from his outward appearance... and not just now, but since the very beginning.



"...No, even that's not it. I thought as the Head himself. I am now... the Head of the Ushiromiya family."
"...Hehheheheheh... Splendid, to think that you'd be able to go so far. It seems you truly are one to be reckoned with. Battler's and Maria's tests remain, but I've got a good feeling that you'll pass. But only if that is your true, unexaggerated answer, you see?"
"...Do you doubt my resolve?"
"Can you carry out the option you chose? Can you, right now, with your own hands, offer all the lives that exist on this island as sacrifices...? By your own hand...?"
"I can. I've said I was prepared to do so several times."
"Ha, hahahahahaha! Then return to the guesthouse right away... and kill Battler and Maria! When that's done, I'll bring you the other hostages. Execute each of them except Shannon before her eyes! You can do it, right?!"
"I can. My resolve is on a whole different level from yours."
"...Nn. Then carry it out! Death for them all! Complete this bloodstained ceremony as the new Ushiromiya Family Head...!!"
"...Understood. I'll carry it out. I'm already the Ushiromiya Family Head."



BGM: Happiness of Marionette

Gaap was convinced. This man truly was fitting to succeed Kinzo's madness...!

"Blow wind, cry thunder!! Celebrate the birth of the new demon king!! The demon island has now welcomed its new lord...!!"

In response to the demon's call, a tempest raged more and more. Then, a massive lightning bolt fell, its tearing thunder and brilliant light giving the sensation of a moment of silence...

"So, about the order of the murders. I get to choose that, right?"
"Please, as you wish, your Majesty, the new demon king of Rokkenjima. As your heart desires...!"



BGM: Answer

"...Huh?"

A gust of wind blew, stirring up George's jacket as if it was a cloak. It was very much like the cloak worn by the Head. It definitely carried that impression of dignity...

At that time, Gaap truly did see the storm wiped away, and the sky covered with a pure-white and vast full moon. The man who called himself the new Head... bore the full moon on his back... and sneered at the demon.

"Even the lives of the entire Ushiromiya family... are now part of my fortune. Reparations will be made for the damage that's been done. And it won't come cheap."
"...You didn't seriously think you could take my parents, Aunt Natsuhi, Uncle Rudolf, Aunt Rosa, and Genji-san's lives and expect me to overlook it, right?"
"Ho, hohoh... impertinence..."



But right before he could, his hand stopped...

...On the carpet at their feet... one... two small red flowers bloomed with a *plop* *plop*.



:siren:BGM: Hibuta:siren:

Ronove's nose was stained red with spewing blood... and those drops had been dripping onto the carpet.

"...By the way, that just now was my answer as a maiden. My answer as the Successor is different."
"Allow me to ask..."



"Dad wasn't just swaggering around. He protected me and Mom!! He fought the pressure of succeeding the Ushiromiya family... for decades!! That's why I know... Being the Successor is nothing trivial. So you know what? I can give it up. Betting my own life is something I can do easily!!"

Jessica knew. She knew that in order to protect her family, her father had bluffed and fought alone continuously. Jessica understood something that his back had been telling her!

Another left straight was buried into Ronove's face. That terrifying strike wasn't due just to the brass knuckles she was using. It was a strike... of a person, a Family Head, who could throw away everything in order to protect.

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

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OK... so they're BOTH going to fight? Well.

tiistai
Nov 1, 2012

Solo Melodica
Krauss is a good dad

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

tiistai posted:

Krauss is a good dad

Kinzo is a bad one.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Respect GOLDSMITH

EagerSleeper
Feb 3, 2010

by R. Guyovich
Heck yeah, let's pull out the electric guitars and punch some demons!


MonsterEnvy posted:

Kinzo is a bad one.

Mods?

curiousCat
Sep 23, 2012

Does this look like the face of mercy, kupo?
Holy moly, Jessica. Just brass knuckles to the face?

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

curiousCat posted:

Holy moly, Jessica. Just brass knuckles to the face?

Well the dude was saying he was going to kill her.

CottonWolf
Jul 20, 2012

Good ideas generator

idonotlikepeas posted:

OK... so they're BOTH going to fight? Well.

Presumably it's the only correct option. Kinzo doesn't strike me as the kind to accept giving anything away under duress. It's all his to do with as he pleases. Who are you with the impertinance to take from the Head of the Ushiromiya family without permission?

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
Well it was their turn to briefly act badass before being killed unceremoniously by anime.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


I'm so glad that my bias against George has been even slightly justified. Even if he doesn't do anything, even if he later says that he was lying, that he claimed to be willing to kill everyone to get what he wants is enough to confirm my belief that he totally is.

Fabulousvillain
May 2, 2015
I was really wondering why there is a fighting game with Umineko characters until this update, is chapter 4 gonna turn in to G Gundam now? (Don't answer this)

CottonWolf
Jul 20, 2012

Good ideas generator

Fabulousvillain posted:

I was really wondering why there is a fighting game with Umineko characters until this update, is chapter 4 gonna turn in to G Gundam now? (Don't answer this)

I'd just assumed it was all the magic people.

Qrr
Aug 14, 2015


CottonWolf posted:

I'd just assumed it was all the magic people.

Play as any of 4 different magic rabbit guns! Feel the power of a demon butler! Be whatever the heck Gaap is! Or play as a completely generic goatman.

CottonWolf
Jul 20, 2012

Good ideas generator

Completely Generic Goatman is the name of my new alt-country band.

I think I'm nearly there on a time difference theory where everyone in the guesthouse was killed when the dungeon people were asleep, I'll try and make the last details fit and post it tomorrow. It comes down to whether or not I can work out a way for one half of the phone calls to be a recording, it may fall at the last hurdle. I also like that the murders have become so certain that theorising about them before they happen is fair game.

CottonWolf fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Feb 26, 2017

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Kinu Nishimura
Apr 24, 2008

SICK LOOT!

Qrr posted:

Play as any of 4 different magic rabbit guns! Feel the power of a demon butler! Be whatever the heck Gaap is! Or play as a completely generic goatman.

Funny part is, Gaap isn't actually playable and Chiester 410 is the representative of all three of them. :v:

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