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Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

logikv9 posted:

i'm not surprised that the doxxer michael tracey went to TYT after getting fired from vice
Goddam Tracey is a huge piece of poo poo and gently caress TYT for constantly covering his rear end.

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Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Fallen Hamprince posted:


are you seeing the disconnect here?

I'm sure that he just coincidentally said that after the election ended, in a race where the winning candidate promised to repeal obamacare

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


loquacius posted:

I said this before, nobody is actually happy about Perez, some people are mad and some people are mad at the idea that people could be mad

Exactly this. When I think about what a stupid dumb unforced gently caress up this was, I think about the conversation people would be having now if Ellison had one. Wouldn't there have been far far far more unity in that scenario? Some actual bridges built and goodwill shown?

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
yeah, i would have been positively thrilled had bootedge cinched it, i would have been satisifed had ellison won. but perez's victory isn't gonna do anything except keeping shady consultancy fees into the pockets of lobbyists.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Neurolimal posted:

I'm sure that he just coincidentally said that after the election ended, in a race where the winning candidate promised to repeal obamacare

It was during a town hall. Someone asked him a question.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Condiv posted:

Wow. I thought the dnc was at least involved. Why are we supporting the dems again?

The dlcc was involved in that race (the branch of dnc responsible for state leg chambers)

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE

deadgoon posted:

i look forward to helping the GOP maintain their majority in congress in 2018 by voting straight-ticket R

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
and instead of admitting a pretty loving egregious own-goal, the figurehead of third-way centrism tried to shift the blame elsewhere.

nopants
May 29, 2004

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

Well it also doesn't help if people vote for Dems anyway and they follow along with Republicans because ~bipartisanship~, especially when they start voting on executing detainees which is why the voters are raising a righteous stink about it!

The silver lining is that conservatives are also getting sick of Republican congressmen but they're shoving their fingers in their ears because they never actually cared one bit about their base

Bernie Buttigieg Bros did 9/11

The democrats only want to execute male detainees over the age of 16. The republicans want to execute all male detainees. Do you want all male detainees executed? What's your problem?!

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Condiv posted:

Wow. I thought the dnc was at least involved. Why are we supporting the dems again?

*extremely, painfully, incredibly woke voice* "actually, the dems had nothing to do with this dem getting elected. You loving morons"

big black turnout
Jan 13, 2009



Fallen Rib

zen death robot posted:

gently caress you

I'm already hosed, but don't worry man you and your ilk and doing everything in your power to ensure i remain hosed

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Hm and then he turned his back on the most beloved politician in modern US history. What a butt

One was in the pocket of banks and the other was not. Looks like Bernie made the mistake here!

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

big black turnout posted:

I'm already hosed, but don't worry man you and your ilk and doing everything in your power to ensure i remain hosed

Zen Death Robot, cog in the insidious neoliberal forums machine

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

zen death robot hacked the forums software to make dem thread posts extra bad #wow #whoa #MAGA

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE

zen death robot posted:

The DNC is hosed because they're terrible at getting poo poo fixed at the state level and Keith Ellison wasn't going to fix that any better than Tom Perez is. Going full socialist isn't gonna play in rural Missouri, Indiana, Wisconsin in 2018. You gotta work up to that I'm afraid.

zen death robot posted:

I'm not sure what the hell youre gonna do to win those areas bud. I know these people well and uh, well, they don't want tax dollars helping out THOSE people. I mean there's a reason full Fascism is winning after all.

All the more reason to vote R. The GOP is the best chance we have at bringing down the American empire.

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
all i'm saying is that if standards were high enough that being a spineless shithead was a disqualifying condition of holding a leadership post, maybe we might actually have candidates that can win stuff.

but let's let them keep running the party even though it's been moved to a burned out house, no music is playing, people have started drinking methylated spirits, and you can hear a woman crying somewhere in the distance.

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
but somehow that counts as being part of a circular firing squad which absolutely astounds me

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

all i'm saying is that if standards were high enough that being a spineless shithead was a disqualifying condition of holding a leadership post, maybe we might actually have candidates that can win stuff.

Is there a mental health exam as part of the vetting process

Because if not, there should be

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


centrism is bankrupt

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
https://twitter.com/robdelaney/status/835840793818640384

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

logikv9 posted:

reminder while everybody is simmering about being angry / apathetic / happy? please channel your energy into the next BIG COMPETITIVE RACE which is of course, the c-spam dog primary https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3811350

we're going to win bigly, folks. we're going to keep winning and winning you're gonna get tired of winning. Please logikv9, we can't take all this winning, you're going to say. but we're not going to stop.

fuk u when the time comes im voting for the GBS dog

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

Condiv posted:

why'd they name their retarded program ada anyway? Ada Lovelace was a visionary, not a half-retarded political operation high on its own farts

quote:

Finance being somewhat of a problem, the enterprising couple applied their mathematical prowess to fresh fields (proving, incidentally, that genius and common sense don't always go hand-in-hand) and developed a ‘no-fail’ winning system for horse racing.

Unfortunately, horses not being big on math, the system did fail, and Ada finished her life as a bankrupt laudanum addict, dying of cancer at the age of 36.

Big Fat Iguana
Aug 21, 2016

remember. and never lie.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/26/politics/perez-trump-investigation/index.html

quote:

(CNN)New Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez is joining calls for an independent investigation into reported contacts between President Donald Trump's campaign and Russians known to US intelligence.

"What we need to be looking at is whether this election was rigged by Donald Trump and his buddy Vladimir Putin," Perez said in an interview with CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union" on Sunday.
Perez argued that Attorney General Jeff Sessions can't adequately investigate any possible connections because the Alabama Republican was a close adviser and supporter of Trump during his presidential campaign.

"It's really unfair to any foxes around the country to say that would be the fox guarding the hen house," Perez said.

Also :laffo: @ Bernie calling for people to stop telling Sessions to recuse himself and "let the process work"

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE

The DSA is cool if you want to meet other leftists and eat some pizza together or something but don't get the wrong idea and think it has any power or influence or even any strategy whatsoever. The DSA is for entertainment purposes only like chapo trap house and jacobin

speng31b
May 8, 2010

Big Fat Iguana posted:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/26/politics/perez-trump-investigation/index.html


Also :laffo: @ Bernie calling for people to stop telling Sessions to recuse himself and "let the process work"

Bernie can gently caress off, he has a strain of decorum that will stop him from ever being truly effective at anything

Boner Zone
Jan 14, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
dem party leadership is really cool and good and we should keep deferring to their wise decisions for the party lest we become a circular firing squad and start losing elections

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Big Fat Iguana posted:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/26/politics/perez-trump-investigation/index.html


Also :laffo: @ Bernie calling for people to stop telling Sessions to recuse himself and "let the process work"

Hmmm henhouses yes

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Boner Zone posted:

dem party leadership is really cool and good and we should keep deferring to their wise decisions for the party lest we become a circular firing squad and start losing elections

also

Big Fat Iguana
Aug 21, 2016

remember. and never lie.
A man backed by chuck schumer is surely the outsider candidate we need in these troubled times

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Big Fat Iguana posted:

A man backed by chuck schumer is surely the outsider candidate we need in these troubled times

Tom Perez will unite the Democratic party :downs:

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

Exactly this. When I think about what a stupid dumb unforced gently caress up this was, I think about the conversation people would be having now if Ellison had one. Wouldn't there have been far far far more unity in that scenario? Some actual bridges built and goodwill shown?

This was a microcosm of basically every political event involving the Democrats for the next ten years or so

centrists refusing to cede an inch to the left, ever, and then making the discourse "how stupid are the left for being unhappy right now" over and over again

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

Big Fat Iguana posted:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/26/politics/perez-trump-investigation/index.html


Also :laffo: @ Bernie calling for people to stop telling Sessions to recuse himself and "let the process work"

That's not what he said

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Big Fat Iguana posted:

A man backed by chuck schumer is surely the outsider candidate we need in these troubled times

can people stop with this already? Schumer started to basically just defer to Bernie immediately post-election because he didn't know what he was doing and Bernie did, but it didn't take

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

deadgoon posted:

fuk u when the time comes im voting for the GBS dog

the GBS dog is a mess

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


loquacius posted:

This was a microcosm of basically every political event involving the Democrats for the next ten years or so

centrists refusing to cede an inch to the left, ever, and then making the discourse "how stupid are the left for being unhappy right now" over and over again
Yep yep yep. It's like, they were warned that people would be pissed, told those people to go gently caress themselves, then are upset when they are in fact pissed.

Has this Bruenig article been posted yet? Probably, but it's the clearest and most concise take I've read on why this was so dumb

https://twitter.com/MattBruenig/status/835715130214215680

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene
#thick #organizing #muscle

Boner Zone
Jan 14, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo

zen death robot posted:

I'm glad I'm a 6.5 figgie man now that the republicans will be in charge forever because people can't understand both wings of the party gotta compromise lol

lmao what is this garbage?

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together

Fun Shoe

zen death robot posted:

I'm glad I'm a 6.5 figgie man now that the republicans will be in charge forever because people can't understand both wings of the party gotta compromise lol

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

zen death robot posted:

I'm glad I'm a 6.5 figgie man now that the republicans will be in charge forever because people can't understand both wings of the party gotta compromise lol

I mean

(a) no they don't, the Tea Party / Trumpists never compromised and look at them
(b) how does "both wings of the party gotta compromise" keep turning into "the left has gotta compromise; the center is compromising all the time by virtue of hearing you complain about all the things we're making you compromise on"

the center is also compromising all the time in a very real sense, with the Republicans

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Trevorrrrrrrrrrrrr
Jul 4, 2008

give me everythign i want

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