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anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

logikv9 posted:

i know a family with a kid in florida for college, i am perpetually secretly jealous because he pays like nothing for rent while i have to decide between $1,000 or $1,250 a month and figuring out how much i have to borrow to pay for that

north jersey sux sux sux sux

but it still aint florida

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anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
i only hate nj bc its expensive tho. no other reason really. but its really fuckin expensive and not as cool as cali so idk

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Gringostar posted:

unironically good

i give the left a lot of poo poo for only bothering to show the gently caress up when it's been convenient for them (which they deserve) and nothing would make me happier than a strong left movement that actually loving votes more than once a decade
the problem with 2008 was that things didn't get quite that bad enough because the grinding gears of kleptocracy take time to deal endless pain. doesn't help that the economic crunch started hitting the underclass during obama's presidency though him not taking banks to task did the opposite of help

the fact that people are going out and taking over offices makes me a bit more optimistic about what'll happen when the civil war begins

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

Heaven Spacey posted:

all i can find on the buttman is that hes a young mayor with military background. wheres he stand on the policies. fill me in thread!!!

he was a berniebro back when you were in short pants (2000)

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

yikes

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Maybe we should look to the party's future, instead of obsessing over a guy who ran once.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Like we could rehash the 2016 primaries into eternity until we reach purity, or we can find someone new to be excited about.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Heaven Spacey posted:

all i can find on the buttman is that hes a young mayor with military background. wheres he stand on the policies. fill me in thread!!!

everything he said during the dnc debates was straight-line good, esp where to focus for elections + minor stuff like internships for future talent

he wrote a pro-bernie high school essay in 2000, in which he won an award

his dad is a big name in studying italian socialists

the worst thing he has done was to say something like "banning lobbyist donations didn't exactly make us more progressive previously" which is meh but countered out by the fact that nobody else exactly took the higher road

didn't accept any bank donations for his candidacy

marched with protestors during the major post-inaug protests, something that no other candidate did

is named buttigieg, pronounced bootedgeedge

is gay

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

the problem with 2008 was that things didn't get quite that bad enough because the grinding gears of kleptocracy take time to deal endless pain

the fact that people are going out and taking over offices makes me a bit more optimistic about what'll happen when the civil war begins

and the problem with 2004?

and the problem with 2010?

and the problem with 2012?

elections are more than every 4 years

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

FactsAreUseless posted:

Like we could rehash the 2016 primaries into eternity until we reach purity, or we can find someone new to be excited about.

We have to do the first one until we achieve perfect synthesis or implode.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

anime was right posted:

north jersey sux sux sux sux

but it still aint florida

i found a place that is really nice for $1,000 (this is the absolute lowest i can find, this is how low i've stooped) but i need to room with a friend who has a cat and i am allergic

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT

FactsAreUseless posted:

Like we could rehash the 2016 primaries into eternity until we reach purity, or we can find someone new to be excited about.

Gloria La Riva 2020

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

Ace of Baes posted:

We have to do the first one until we achieve perfect synthesis or implode.

ill make the website

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

can't win seats you don't contest

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Error 404 posted:

Gloria La Riva 2020
I don't know who that is, but why not?

[chanting] Well Heck, Why Not! Well Heck, Why Not!

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
p. sure chronic use of antihistamines or similar anti-allergy products have adverse effects

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014



Thanks a lot, I appreciate it. He actually does sound like someone to keep an eye on, if he can energize people the way Obama and Bernie did. Certainly would like to see more of him than someone like Booker.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Gringostar posted:

and the problem with 2004?

and the problem with 2010?

and the problem with 2012?

elections are more than every 4 years
yeah it pretty much needs to be drilled in the heads of leftists, because what the tea party accomplished was that it made a lot of people who were 4 year voters 1 year voters

the tea party brought forth infinite death but there are lessons to be learned from how they did it, and the methods they used to take power weren't inherently evil

LinYutang
Oct 12, 2016

NEOLIBERAL SHITPOSTER

:siren:
VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!!!
:siren:

logikv9 posted:

from what i gather the vote can be made public to any candidates who request the information, whom i would guess would promptly release it

so nobody did that yet i guess

https://twitter.com/AdamGreen/status/835574580278276097

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

logikv9 posted:

i found a place that is really nice for $1,000 (this is the absolute lowest i can find, this is how low i've stooped) but i need to room with a friend who has a cat and i am allergic

pretty sure my old garbage apts in bloomfield are cheaper than that. caveat: my roof caved in from water damage and they refused to fix it so i moved out.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
but hey, it's like, only 900 dollars!

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

yeah it pretty much needs to be drilled in the heads of leftists, because what the tea party accomplished was that it made a lot of people who were 4 year voters 1 year voters

the tea party brought forth infinite death but there are lessons to be learned from how they did it, and the methods they used to take power
The left doesn't have anything that motivates people as well as white supremacy.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

FactsAreUseless posted:

The left doesn't have anything that motivates people as well as white supremacy.

...yet

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

https://twitter.com/tilton_raccoon/status/835271332812083200

i will start being angrier once i see somebody other than this dude make a fuss about it. if it was true i would think the ellison camp would make a fuss

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

They would if they ran on a "Beyonce should have won" platform, but they don't have the balls.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

FactsAreUseless posted:

The left doesn't have anything that motivates people as well as white supremacy.
and even then that only motivates people because of inbreeding and child abuse. they got a lot of non-inbred hangers-on for "LOWER TAXES" at the behest of koch media (it might come as a surprise that the koch brothers were not the worst thing about the tea party)

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

anime was right posted:

pretty sure my old garbage apts in bloomfield are cheaper than that. caveat: my roof caved in from water damage and they refused to fix it so i moved out.

that's getting a little too far unfortunately, but i'm considering bloomfield or similar in two or so years

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

and even then that only motivates people because of inbreeding and child abuse. they got a lot of non-inbred hangers-on for "LOWER TAXES" at the behest of koch media (it might come as a surprise that the koch brothers were not the worst thing about the tea party)
It motivates people because white supremacy makes them feel good. It assures them that they're special, and they deserve to be on top, and they will be if they can just get rid of the people taking away their birthright.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
also that sweet apartment i was chasing was completely taken by the time i got there (it was a new building), probably because that price was great for what you would actually get

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

FactsAreUseless posted:

It motivates people because white supremacy makes them feel good. It assures them that they're special, and they deserve to be on top, and they will be if they can just get rid of the people taking away their birthright.


If it goes far enough, opposition to white supremacy is going to be a motivating force for the left. I suppose the problem is that so many timid moderates are afraid to criticize dog whistle far-right rhetoric for fear of alienating whites, and that they lack the will and desire to seize upon the kind of rhetoric used by union and socialist organizers in the 20s and 30s to energize the left back then. The left needs a good firebrand.

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE

anime was right posted:

i only hate nj bc its expensive tho. no other reason really. but its really fuckin expensive and not as cool as cali so idk

South jersey is just as expensive and even less cool. At least in the north you're close to NY and have way more cool stuff

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017



I can't wait until Third Wayism is viewed with as much distaste as Third Positionism

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

SKULL.GIF posted:

I can't wait until Third Wayism is viewed with as much distaste as Third Positionism
What if she runs as a far-left representative for youth politics?

Boner Zone
Jan 14, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo

zen death robot posted:

Maybe it's because I live in a red state but I never was under any delusion that the dnc chair was going to usher in Socialism by 2020

zen death robot posted:

I can see why maybe if you live on the coasts these things seem within arms reach but I got bad news for ya

my deepest of deep red state once produced a dude so far left he gave fuckin fdr a run for his money

im from louisiana and I say get hosed!!

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE

FactsAreUseless posted:

The left doesn't have anything that motivates people as well as white supremacy.

Maybe because the Democratic Party backstabbed the working class and then did everything in their power to keep them neutered? xD

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Scent of Worf posted:

Maybe because the Democratic Party backstabbed the working class and then did everything in their power to keep them neutered? xD
No, you're thinking of The Price Is Right, and those were cats and dogs.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

So the idea is that the candidates are supposed to be able to go lobby those people like a caucus between votes?

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
Help control the socialist population. Have your socialists spayed or neutered.

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


I need this framed

https://twitter.com/Shakestweetz/status/835881246626566144

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Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/835890804078030848
Burn it down.

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