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Look people, obviously somebody had to tell the unvarnished Truth about the hellscape Sweden has recently devolved into, and who better to do that than some rando who moved away a couple of decades ago?
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I welcome Trump talking poo poo about Sweden. It really does suck.
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Feb 25, 2017 09:45
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Randarkman posted:I welcome Trump talking poo poo about Sweden. It really does suck. What can they say that's gonna be worse than what we have been saying about them for centuries.
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Feb 25, 2017 10:49
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Cake Smashing Boob posted:lol Fox News just had some small time criminal nobody pose as a Swedish Defence Analyst How the hell Did you get that av?
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Feb 25, 2017 10:54
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Randarkman posted:I welcome Trump talking poo poo about Sweden. It really does suck. The weirdest loving thing is that with all this attention in the last few days suddenly it seems like nationalism is working against SD & co. I'm seeing all kinds of people from all kinds of political factions popping out of the woodwork to say that no, Malmö really isn't that bad. Nationalism is the weirdest loving thing.
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Feb 25, 2017 13:58
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Alhazred posted:What can they say that's gonna be worse than what we have been saying about them for centuries. Eh, they were way into smack talk all through the cold war (because apparently social democracy is basically communism and a threat to american freedom/profits). Nothing new under the sun. Wild Horses posted:How the hell Did you get that av? Some friendly goon gifted it to me for being a liberal social justice commu-feminazi probably.
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Feb 25, 2017 14:07
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I'm also a very vocal supporter of black genocide.
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Feb 25, 2017 14:07
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I imagine most (reasonable...) Swedes are completely aware that there are legitimate challenges and issues linked to the refugee influx and are open to a conversation about them that doesn't dehumanize or treat refugees and muslim citizens as brainless agents of some kind of wave of fifth-columnist rape-sharia zombie uprising. So when foreign media talks about Sweden as if that zombie uprising is an actual fact and treats Sweden as some kind of failed state, those moderate voices respond with a complete rejection of that politically motivated delusion. I think it's heartening to hear that Swedes are turning their patriotism to defending their country's reputation against this far right agenda, and as an addition to what TheFluff says, seems like a clear example of a positive and constructive use of nationalism.
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Feb 25, 2017 14:08
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lol edit: https://twitter.com/forsvarsakerhet/status/835483021608378368 TheFluff fucked around with this message at 14:44 on Feb 25, 2017 |
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Feb 25, 2017 14:26
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murphyslaw posted:I imagine most (reasonable...) Swedes are completely aware that there are legitimate challenges and issues linked to the refugee influx and are open to a conversation about them that doesn't dehumanize or treat refugees and muslim citizens as brainless agents of some kind of wave of fifth-columnist rape-sharia zombie uprising. So when foreign media talks about Sweden as if that zombie uprising is an actual fact and treats Sweden as some kind of failed state, those moderate voices respond with a complete rejection of that politically motivated delusion. I think it's heartening to hear that Swedes are turning their patriotism to defending their country's reputation against this far right agenda, and as an addition to what TheFluff says, seems like a clear example of a positive and constructive use of nationalism. actually trump is a 7th level warlock, he can perceive events that have not happened yet. it was just a simple mistake at a press conference that caused this whole debacle. 
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Snubben har ju fattat hur man tar sig fram i USA iaf. Bluff och båg.
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Wild Horses posted:actually trump is a 7th level warlock, he can perceive events that have not happened yet. I was referring to a longer trend of far right agitprop concerning Sweden culminating in that Fox News insanity. As far as the press conference I think you're referring to, that being yesterday's barring other news outlets than those that dear leader likes from spicy boy's angry sermon against the media, I sure hope for the sake of the US that that indeed was a one time mistake. Private citizens retreating into a safe space echo chamber is bad enough, the US executive branch doing it is a national disgrace and a dangerous one at that.
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i'm kidding. its a reference to when trump was referring to "something" happening in sweden due to refugees, was derided for it because nothing had actually happened, and then some days later we had those riots with cops shooting to kill. edit: this thing with media telling falsities is another thing entirely and it sucks
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Wild Horses posted:i'm kidding. its a reference to when trump was referring to "something" happening in sweden due to refugees, was derided for it because nothing had actually happened, and then some days later we had those riots with cops shooting to kill. No worries my bro just making sure  thanks for clearing up
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Cake Smashing Boob posted:lol Fox News just had some small time criminal nobody pose as a Swedish Defence Analyst Stop spreading fake news! Fox News has the best defense experts in the world! Here is Nils Bildt in studio together with Fox News' Finnish defense analyst! 
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LOOKY HEER EEHTS A RUSSIAN SURBMERENE-A-BORK
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an acquaintance of mine who is an active member of SV told me to vote Rødt over SV this coming election since I'm torn between the two. apparently a lot of internal conflicts going on there
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It's not a proper socialist party unless it's being torn apart by infighting.
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Feb 25, 2017 18:33
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Grevling posted:It's not a proper socialist party unless it's being torn apart by infighting. Excuse me but I believe the proper term is dialectical praxis.
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I don't know what that means
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ThaumPenguin posted:I don't know what that means Neither do they, I'm sure.
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murphyslaw posted:Neither do they, I'm sure. Well I just made it up, so
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The main lesson to take from this is that parties are bad. 
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While socialism has yet to bring us a classless society, it did however invent the next best thing. Proggen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8pTVAz28ZU I'm not sure they're too proud about cheering Pol Pot on anymore though.
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so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
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Yeah, some leftist anthems were fairly naive. Here's another example. Heimevernslaget - Eritrea
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But some are pretty cool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWEiMfn1bIo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvD_ngn4nJQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGR-0uvkOtc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADllayaGe6I
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My jam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnk7huxeIbo
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Retarded Goatee posted:Proggen.
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Progg for the post-ironic generation. It loving owns though. seriously doctor kosmos is so bizarrely good, they're utterly sincere but so self-aware that it seems like they're being ironic TheFluff fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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TheFluff posted:Progg for the post-ironic generation. It loving owns though. Their singer, Uje Brandelius, have been a press secretary for V since 2009 for those that didn't know. It is nice for once to see an artist actually stand up for his/her opinions, instead of random moaning/hypocrisy.
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It's cool that two of V's high-up positions are held by people who used to be in bands I love(d). There's Uje and there's party secretary Aron Etzler used to sing Ny Akustik around the turn of the millennium. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph3iXLKki_U
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Cake Smashing Boob posted:lol Fox News just had some small time criminal nobody pose as a Swedish Defence Analyst Even better/worse, he tried to get into Riksdagen for SD a while back: http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/udland/optraadte-som-sikkerhedsraadgiver-paa-fox-ville-i-riksdagen-sverigedemokraterna
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Cardiac posted:It is nice for once to see an artist actually stand up for his/her opinions, instead of random moaning/hypocrisy. Not always. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obMdvSOh1dE
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Beeswax posted:It's cool that two of V's high-up positions are held by people who used to be in bands I love(d). There's Uje and there's party secretary Aron Etzler used to sing Ny Akustik around the turn of the millennium. The vocalist of the band with the Eritrea song I linked to went on to retire in Spain, only to come back and make songs calling immigrants "fleas and lice" who "smell like onions and hash". It's hard to listen to his music without that coming to mind now. Grevling fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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Does Rødt have any actual replacement for NATO in mind, security policy wise? I get that NATO is used to protect capitalist interests in an imperialistic way, drags us into conflicts of aggression and allow the US undue influence on us politically and economically, but I don't see that Rødt is proposing any realistic alternative. I scoured the Rødt webside and they say they want a national defense made up of conscripts, and to train the civilian populace for an insurgency should we be occupied. That's not really... I mean, at the height of Norwegian mobilization, back during the cold war, the most we could hope for was to delay the Russians for a short while. We need an alliance. I agree with the NATO criticism above, but I suspect some of the opposition is rooted in a historical belief that Russia could be our Marxist-Leninist comrades. I doubt there is anyone on the left who still sees Russia as ideological allies so what is the proposed alternative to NATO? Do most other people on the left believe it is better to risk our own security than staying with NATO?
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Biomute posted:Does Rødt have any actual replacement for NATO in mind, security policy wise? Personally I would rather risk the small chance of being invaded than contribute to the hell-machine that is NATO.
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Biomute posted:Does Rødt have any actual replacement for NATO in mind, security policy wise? I'm not really sure if a Russian invasion of Norway is all that likely ever in the near or distant future whether we are in NATO or not. But it quite possibly does improve our position in negotating disputes with Russia of a smaller nature. I wouldn't really say a conscript army is anywhere close to what Norway needs anymore and is pretty expensive when it comes to having to train a new batch of recruits very frequently for ever more technically demanding tasks. Soviet war plans for Scandinavia were essentially to just send a whole load of nukes to major cities and military installations and ignore it. If Russia still has plans that involve fighting in Scandinavia I wouldn't imagine it being so different, though Soviet military power was vastly superior to today's Russia. If you want a military to defend against that I'd say you either need a comprehensive missile defense system (though that's very expensive and something Russia is really touchy about) or a nuclear deterrent (which we in essence have with NATO). TheRat posted:Personally I would rather risk the small chance of being invaded than contribute to the hell-machine that is NATO. Hell-machine. Really?
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Randarkman posted:
When my brother was in the army he was told that his job, if Russia invaded, was to gently caress with the signs so the russians would get lost.
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Alhazred posted:When my brother was in the army he was told that his job, if Russia invaded, was to gently caress with the signs so the russians would get lost. That sounds pretty effective.
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Randarkman posted:That sounds pretty effective. Worked in the Wire.
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