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I could help but laugh at her bing search, it was dead quiet in the theater during that part except for my chuckles. The sound in this movie was amazing.
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Groovelord Neato posted:dude how https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRfnevzM9kQ I'd say it kinda does. But only because we have context for the movie now.
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 06:02 |
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Was anyone else expecting, at the very end, that Rose was going to get up or regain control of the shotgun while the two guys were talking in the car? I mean, I was laughing at the dialogue, but I was worried that it was going to take a last minute punishment for doing so.
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 06:34 |
MisterBibs posted:Was anyone else expecting, at the very end, that Rose was going to get up or regain control of the shotgun while the two guys were talking in the car? I mean, I was laughing at the dialogue, but I was worried that it was going to take a last minute punishment for doing so. I'm just mad that they didn't run her over with the car before leaving to make sure she stays dead like her brother.
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 06:37 |
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MisterBibs posted:Was anyone else expecting, at the very end, that Rose was going to get up or regain control of the shotgun while the two guys were talking in the car? I mean, I was laughing at the dialogue, but I was worried that it was going to take a last minute punishment for doing so. Speaking as a ~cis white male~, I was actually satisfied by her expression being one of utter shock and disbelief that she *wasn't* going to get her revenge. It managed to be a 'happy ending' that by all rights would have mind-hosed him forever afterwards. The closest thing I could approximate to a similar ending was the end of the first Final Destination movie.
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 06:38 |
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lol Armond White wrote a negative review for the National loving Review. Seeing this tomorrow, can't wait!
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 06:48 |
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MisterBibs posted:Was anyone else expecting, at the very end, that Rose was going to get up or regain control of the shotgun while the two guys were talking in the car? I mean, I was laughing at the dialogue, but I was worried that it was going to take a last minute punishment for doing so. If there was going to be a twist ending, I was expecting it to go like Brazil, where the entire last act had only taken place inside Chris's head, and that his imagined escape was merely a part of the hypnotic conditioning. Suffice it to say, I'm glad they didn't go down that route.
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 06:55 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Speaking as a ~cis white male~, I was actually satisfied by her expression being one of utter shock and disbelief that she *wasn't* going to get her revenge.. I did too; I thought it was an interesting thing that he let someone to die, alone, after admitting he had intense guilt for not doing that earlier in his life.
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 07:24 |
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MisterBibs posted:Was anyone else expecting, at the very end, that Rose was going to get up or regain control of the shotgun while the two guys were talking in the car? I mean, I was laughing at the dialogue, but I was worried that it was going to take a last minute punishment for doing so. I would have, except I had faith that the film was executing the cosmic justice of her being left to die after he had confided in her about him feeling like he had left his mother to die. e: I see you had the same idea, but I hope you have no confusion about why he did that. The first time was his mother, and the second, well.
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 07:24 |
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MisterBibs posted:I did too; I thought it was an interesting thing that he let someone to die, alone, after admitting he had intense guilt for not doing that earlier in his life. In hindsight this also explains the deer scene and his nightmare about it My friend pointed out that he saves himself by picking cotton - from the chair . Hooooly poo poo
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 09:13 |
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VROOM VROOM posted:I would have, except I had faith that the film was executing the cosmic justice of her being left to die after he had confided in her about him feeling like he had left his mother to die. Another thing from his past that's reflected in the movie is his fate if he doesn't GET OUT. He'll essentially be stuck forever in the worst day of his life- the day he couldn't move. Watching TV, paralyzed, forever. As if it wasn't horrible enough, it's like his own personal hell.
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 11:47 |
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Xander B Coolridge posted:In hindsight this also explains the deer scene and his nightmare about it Yeah that detail was great
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 14:54 |
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Stephen Roots good at playing blind guys
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 15:11 |
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Shadowhand00 posted:I'd say it kinda does. But only because we have context for the movie now. the trailer gives the impression that they're making slaves out of people via brainwashing. this isn't the case. it doesn't really count as giving too much away when you have to see the movie to say that. MisterBibs posted:Was anyone else expecting, at the very end, that Rose was going to get up or regain control of the shotgun while the two guys were talking in the car? I mean, I was laughing at the dialogue, but I was worried that it was going to take a last minute punishment for doing so. they literally show her die laying there so no. do a lot of goons just not pay attention you see her die, she stops moving and breathing. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Feb 26, 2017 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:
Goons never loving pay attention, but it's usually restrained to TVIV
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 16:37 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:they literally show her die laying there so no. do a lot of goons just not pay attention you see her die, she stops moving and breathing. You have an incorrect memory of the timeline of events. She doesn't finally die until they drive away and the music starts playing. Before that, when the two characters are in the car, with the comic relief explaining how he should've never gotten into this in the first place, she's still alive, and for most of the conversation, they are looking at each other, and not the still-kinda-alive crazy lady that the main character just slid the rifle a few inches away from. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Feb 26, 2017 |
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Blisster posted:Another thing from his past that's reflected in the movie is his fate if he doesn't GET OUT. He'll essentially be stuck forever in the worst day of his life- the day he couldn't move. Watching TV, paralyzed, forever. As if it wasn't horrible enough, it's like his own personal hell. drat, I didn't realize that visual linkage. Great catch.
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 19:21 |
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MisterBibs posted:You have an incorrect memory of the timeline of events. She doesn't finally die until they drive away and the music starts playing. cuz she can't move and is dead and even if she's not dead she does not have the physical power to hold the gun or to stand up and shoot them and also because they already did "the person who thought died came back" and it'd be lame as hell to do it again.
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 19:26 |
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Drunkboxer posted:Stephen Roots good at playing blind guys He really is.
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 19:56 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:cuz she can't move and is dead Again, you are factually incorrect: she's not dead until the car drives away. We know she's still alive when they are having their conversation. Groovelord Neato posted:because they already did "the person who thought died came back" and it'd be lame as hell to do it again. I'm not saying it would've been a good thing to do - it would've been dark as hell - but I was worrying that the movie was going to take that dark turn.
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 20:31 |
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Armond Whites review is batshit insanequote:But unlike Eddie Murphy, a masterful actor with a mature sense of humor, Peele fails because has not created credible characters. Chris and his ghetto friend Rod (Lil Rel Howery), who works for the TSA, are attitudes, not complex beings. The other blacks Chris encounters as servants on Rose’s family estate are no better than Trayvon Martin–type effigies — zombie-like when not sorrowful and tearful. Exploiting black people’s tears, paranoia, and pain without providing reflex is offensive. Also it looks like this film will be number 1 in box office.
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 22:05 |
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Something I thought of...if the procedure leaves the victims vunerable to flashing lights, wouldn't the last thing Stephen Root's character want to get back into is photography? It's kinda if a beekeeper were offered a life-saving procedure where the side effect would be a massive bee allegy, it doesn't make sense.
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 22:29 |
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"chris's ghetto friend"
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 22:30 |
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Benny the Snake posted:Something I thought of...if the procedure leaves the victims vunerable to flashing lights, wouldn't the last thing Stephen Root's character want to get back into is photography? It's kinda if a beekeeper were offered a life-saving procedure where the side effect would be a massive bee allegy, it doesn't make sense. I didn't take his comments to be about getting into photography at all. I took them to be on a more philosophical level, like he would have eyes and a brain to see things the way Chris did
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 22:31 |
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Benny the Snake posted:Something I thought of...if the procedure leaves the victims vunerable to flashing lights, wouldn't the last thing Stephen Root's character want to get back into is photography? It's kinda if a beekeeper were offered a life-saving procedure where the side effect would be a massive bee allegy, it doesn't make sense. He doesn't want to get back into photography necessarily, but he'd like to be able to appreciate visual art on the level he once did. The movie does a great job of building up sympathy for him when he and Chris are talking at the party and then ruining that when you figure out what's going on. He's a great representative of people who intellectually understand what racism is and can point it out, but also have absolutely no interest in actually fighting it, and will happily contribute to racism in society if it benefits themselves. He gets to say "yeah these people are hosed up and racist" and then directly benefit from said hosed up racism. IMO he's the best criticism of liberal race relations, because there are a lot of people who are at that point; "racism is terrible, but hey, what can I do?" edit: also, as a more general rule, more movies should have Stephen Root in them. It's easy to forget that he's actually an incredibly talented actor because 90% of the time he's playing a really goofy character, but he can pull off roles like this in his sleep. DC Murderverse fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Feb 26, 2017 |
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R. Guyovich posted:the best aspect of the "twist" or whatever you wanna call it is that zombie-like behavior wasn't the result of brainwashing or lobotomy but instead the normal-rear end mannerisms of old white assholes I think there's more to it than that. Like they acted strange but not just in an old white people way. As though the brain transplant messed something up in them and wasn't a complete success. At least that was the impression I got. Adonis fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Feb 26, 2017 |
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Adonis posted:I think there's more to it than that. Like they acted strange and not just in an old white people way. As though the brain transplant messed something up in them and wasn't a complete success. At least that was the impression I got. They also had to hide the fact that they are actually old white people in black bodies from Chris, so there's an additional element of deception. They're old white people pretending that they're not old white people while still attempting to "class up" being black. All of a sudden I remember the conversation Chris had with Grandpa Handyman and it makes his comment about how pretty Rose is feel a lot less creepy. It's one thing if the handyman has a weird little crush on the girl whose house he keeps, but it's another when it's just a grandpa talking up how nice his daughter is (to the man his son is about to abduct the brain of).
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 23:36 |
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Armond Whites review is batshit insane Did...did White accidentally walk into a different movie and then just try to write review based on what he actually saw?
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# ? Feb 27, 2017 00:09 |
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Anyone else thought of Ben Carson by the end of the movie?
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# ? Feb 27, 2017 00:28 |
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Armond White gave a favorable review to Assassin's Creed and complained that the new XXX movie didn't have enough political commentary. Any time he's written a good review has probably been an accident. They're all nonsense. In the AssCreed review he even seemed to not know that "Nothing is true. Everything is permitted" is a famous quote from Hassan i Sabbah (or at least a famous quote used in Naked Lunch) and instead refers to it as "Nietzschean".
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# ? Feb 27, 2017 00:31 |
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Armond White's review of 13th, presented in its entirety:quote:A New documentary reveals the black bourgeoisie’s political correctness.
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# ? Feb 27, 2017 00:40 |
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Yeah, so Armond White is a Respectability Politics, "Welfare state is slavery!" conservative, and THAT'S why he's writing for NR. Good to know.
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# ? Feb 27, 2017 00:46 |
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It's kind of amusing to read that review in Uncle Ruckus' voice.
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# ? Feb 27, 2017 00:50 |
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Oooooooh. So it's not that there was some deeper connection that I was missing, it's that Armond White is a moron. I get it now. Edit: I kinda want to hate read some more of his stuff now.
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# ? Feb 27, 2017 01:14 |
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Armond White is a troll. We knew this seven years ago when he bashed Toy Stroy 3 and praised Transformers 2.
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# ? Feb 27, 2017 01:39 |
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I thought this movie was incredible. I hope it doesn't get forgotten by next oscar season because I think it could honestly be a Best Picture contender. I was just amazed by how deep the racial themes go: Obviously on the surface level the movie is dealing with the idea that it's uncomfortable to be a black man surrounded by well-meaning but ignorant white people, as well as how white people believe they are "post-racial" because they support Obama or have a black friend. But 2 other ideas really stood out to me: -White people misguidedly think that they are being anti-racist or "a good ally" by putting black people on a pedestal. But in reality what they are doing is turning that person into an object, something to point at and go "wow look how great they are, and look how great I am for loving them!" And of course the villains in the movie are literally turning black people into objects. -White people are able to appropriate blackness, putting on another race's cultural markers and wearing it like a mask they can take off at will. This is a privilege not shared by black people, who are unable to discard their blackness and are judged based on it every day. In the film, instead of getting dreadlocks or putting on a fake patois they go all the way by appropriating a black person's entire existence. The way Andre at the party says that his "black experience" has been great stood out to me, with the white person inside receiving the benefits of his newfound youth and virility without having to deal with most of the difficulties of being black in America.
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# ? Feb 27, 2017 01:42 |
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Maxwell Lord posted:Yeah, so Armond White is a Respectability Politics, "Welfare state is slavery!" conservative, and THAT'S why he's writing for NR. He's always come off as anti-respectability politics.
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# ? Feb 27, 2017 01:45 |
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Got a free ticket to see the movie again today, and I wonder: were Grandma and Grandpa putting on domestic/groundskeeper acts for Chris, or did they agree to just be unpaid help for the family when they got put into new bodies? I could imagine the grandma being okay with being the dutiful cook, 50s mentalities for women being what they were, but it seems like a proud man-of-the-house dude would have issues being given a new lease on life, only to be the lowly help.
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# ? Feb 27, 2017 01:50 |
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MisterBibs posted:Got a free ticket to see the movie again today, and I wonder: were Grandma and Grandpa putting on domestic/groundskeeper acts for Chris, or did they agree to just be unpaid help for the family when they got put into new bodies? I think he would probably be happy to be able to go do the yardwork again after years of being elderly. I know my dad loves mowing the lawn and chopping wood, old people are weird.
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# ? Feb 27, 2017 01:59 |
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also he was probably putting on a bit of a show just until Chris got lobotomized
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