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endlessmonotony posted:Ah, the Donald Trump argument. Nah, it's the 'you misunderstood what I'm trying to say' argument. Try and type out what you think I'm saying. Admittedly I'm probably not expressing myself awesomely, but it's sunday night.
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Pissflaps posted:Corbyn is going to have to try really hard to lose this one but I think he can do it. I want a nice early prediction for what will happen.
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Fangz posted:Nah, it's the 'you misunderstood what I'm trying to say' argument. you said it terribly and sounded really detached from causality
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Fangz posted:Nah, it's the 'you misunderstood what I'm trying to say' argument. I commented on what you said, not what you tried to say.
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endlessmonotony posted:I commented on what you said, not what you tried to say. Cool then. I don't disagree. EDIT: I will note though that the regulation you suggest would it seems to me rather run counter to what leftist regulation would lead to. I don't think it's generally longstanding leftist policy to try to tighten rules for lending by banks (i.e. prevent loans to poor people who have a lower chance of being able to repay it)? I think it's more common to suggest policies to force banks to lend more, instead of less. Fangz fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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Namtab posted:I want a nice early prediction for what will happen. There's going to be by-election.
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Pissflaps posted:There's going to be by-election. the pissflaps predictions have lost their air of risk
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Spangly A posted:the pissflaps predictions have lost their air of risk The only one I ever got wrong was Brexit.
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serious gaylord posted:I genuinely wonder what would happen if there was a byelection in a safe labour city constituency at this point. Somewhere like Hackney that went so hard remain. Not a million miles off.
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A win for Labour, which Mr Corbyn's supporters label a triumph and evidence the polls and media and Labour MPs are wrong. Excitement provided mainly by the local Labour Party's decision not to look at their candidate's Twitter feed before selecting them.
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Feb 27, 2017 01:25
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Pissflaps posted:There's going to be by-election. The winner of which will be...
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Feb 27, 2017 01:52
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Hopefully the local party pick an actual left-wing MP, preferably one who supports Corbyn.
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Feb 27, 2017 01:59
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Namtab posted:The winner of which will be... The Great British People.
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jabby posted:Hopefully the local party pick an actual left-wing MP, preferably one who supports Corbyn. Just having a quick look for info, I spotted this - http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/gorton-labour-party-police-bullying-11603957 Sounds like they like a bit of trouble. It's from July but "Many local Labour figures view the safe seat as a target for their ambitions" sounds ominous.
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Feb 27, 2017 02:13
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Pissflaps posted:His seat had a majority of 24,079, he took it with 67.1% of the vote in 2015. Corbynites have already declared it not a safe seat. Oh gently caress off.
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HJB posted:Just having a quick look for info, I spotted this - http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/gorton-labour-party-police-bullying-11603957 Wonder if they're still suspended. It would be extremely funny for Corbyn to pull a Blair and drop in his favourite person over the heads of careerists who have been waiting for Kaufman to step down/die for years.
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Feb 27, 2017 02:17
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Fangz posted:I don't recall hearing a peep from Jeremy Corbyn on banking deregulation before the financial crisis. I can hook you up with some back issues of the Islington Gazette and Islington Tribune if you want to go check the only media outlets who gave regular coverage to an extremely awkward backbencher
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Trin Tragula posted:I can hook you up with some back issues of the Islington Gazette and Islington Tribune if you want to go check the only media outlets who gave regular coverage to an extremely awkward backbencher Having gone to the pointless trouble of looking up the debate... Corbyn was absent. He did vote with the government on some earlier amendments then.
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Mister Adequate posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39097019 It's daunting that someone who'd belch out an opinion like that is in such a position and whilst I agree with the thread that that particular man should be taken from his bed and publicly flogged immediately - and license granted for something else involving a primate and a spoon - my experience has been that there is generally still very little understanding out there about how severely mental illness can gently caress a person. My guess would be that most people would agree with him because depression and anxiety disorders as experienced by the working class are taken to be excuses to skive - lumped in along with back pain and teenage pregnancy. My GP told me when I went to her aged 15 and completely overwhelmed with the first ever really severe bout of depression I had experienced that I just needed to take up a sport and stop moping around. There is so little understanding about even common mental illnesses that I routinely find people relating depression to just feeling a bit sad and anxiety disorders to that feeling when you're sort of making GBS threads yourself about a big interview or that, when these are things that even at the best of times rob you of energy, time and sleep on a daily basis. I think I intended to make a point or other but it's very late and the thread will be closed soon anyway Bring back public information films, maybe. 
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I'm glad the US is at least appearing to learn from you guys' mistakes. The democratic party didnt pick the leftmost candidate for chairman of the party, the favorite of the bernie sanders shitbirds.
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hakimashou posted:I'm glad the US is at least appearing to learn from you guys' mistakes. gently caress off would you.
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hakimashou posted:I'm glad the US is at least appearing to learn from you guys' mistakes. Mayhaps it is people like you that make Labour rotten? Also do not pontificate on our poo poo.
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Fangz posted:Cool then. I don't disagree. As for the Financial Crisis of 2008 it is important to note that there was regulation put in place after the crash of 1929 called the Glass-Stegal act which: "prohibits commercial banks from engaging in the investment business. "It was enacted as an emergency response to the failure of nearly 5,000 banks during the Great Depression. The act was originally part of President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal program and became a permanent measure in 1945. It gave tighter regulation of national banks to the Federal Reserve System; prohibited bank sales of securities; and created the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), which insures bank deposits with a pool of money appropriated from banks." "The Glass-Steagall Act restored public confidence in banking practices during the Great Depression. However, many historians believe that the commercial bank securities practices of the time had little actual effect on the already devastated economy and were not a major contributor to the Depression. Some legislators and bank reformers argued that the act was never necessary, or that it had become outdated and should be repealed. "Congress responded to these criticisms in passing the Gramm-Leach-Bilely Act of 1999, which made significant changes to Glass-Steagall. The 1999 law did not make sweeping changes in the types of business that may be conducted by an individual bank, broker-dealer or insurance company. Instead, the act repealed the Glass-Steagall Act's restrictions on bank and securities-firm affiliations. It also amended the Bank Holding Company Act to permit affiliations among financial services companies, including banks, securities firms and insurance companies. The new law sought financial modernization by removing the very barriers that Glass-Steagall had erected." Less than ten years later we had the financial crisis LOL.
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Nonsense posted:Mayhaps it is people like you that make Labour rotten? Also do not pontificate on our poo poo. He's not Labour, he's a Tory troll at best. Possibly American too.
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lol what's with all the by elections in your silly country, don't mps have first deputies or something
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TinTower posted:Greens came second in Manchester Gorton in 2015. Maybe the Greens can win it.
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Private Speech posted:He's not Labour, he's a Tory troll at best. Possibly American too. I apologize for him then.
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Namtab posted:The winner of which will be... Well, labour of course. It's inconceivable that the opposition would lose a by election to the government. It just doesn't happen.
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Pissflaps posted:Well, labour of course. It's inconceivable that the opposition would lose a by election to the government. It just doesn't happen. if Labour find a way to lose Manchester Gorton, it won't be to the government... There's literally no chance of them losing though, they're defending a majority of 19,000 against the Greens. I expect to see a bit of a #libdemfightback because it went heavily remain.
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Baron Corbyn posted:if Labour find a way to lose Manchester Gorton, it won't be to the government... I'm told by people much cleverer than me that labour voters now support Brexit so that seems unlikely.
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Pissflaps posted:I'm told by people much cleverer than me that labour voters now support Brexit so that seems unlikely. I guess this by election will be a good test of what Labour voters in a remain area do.
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Kurtofan posted:Brexit means brexit Red white and blue brexit. Full English brexit. B R E X I T Nothing else matters other than the March deadline for brexit.
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JFairfax posted:oooh it's nearly march. Calm down the guy only died yesterday.
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Namtab posted:I think it'd be nice for the process to happen quickly rather than being the absolute circus these last few have been It's up to labour how long it takes so I wouldn't be too hopeful.
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