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SaviourX
Sep 30, 2003

The only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Meriwether, or Eartha Kitt.

Body horror and nudity as fragility in the grotesque is only cool when Giger or Cronengberg do it, guys!!

Don't want it on my table?!

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Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

been holding that one in for a month, huh

SaviourX
Sep 30, 2003

The only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Meriwether, or Eartha Kitt.

Seriously though, all the pearl-clutching from goatse central is a little much. Does nudity have to have nuance in a game? Does horror have to be tasteful? And if so, how much? What level?

Most of the actual nudity is contained to the rulebook depicting starting survivors, and is where most of the edge-lordiness comes in. Optional creatures like the tentacle demon are about 5% of the entire game, from what I've experienced so far, which has mostly been slaughtering/being slaughtered by monster lions and dudes that love lanterns a bit too much. You can get about the same eyeful on a casual scroll through of xvideos -> anime. If you already own Warhams elves, this poo poo is like one step higher in lasciviousness. Like someone else said, the style is pretty much a Heavy Metal cover.

While I don't like most of the 2d art, the vast majority of the minis are unique as hell, and I appreciate the commitment to the weird theme of hands/lanterns/masks everywhere.

The RNG-fuckyouness of the game is either lovely/amusing on how you like to play your games (to completion of a win condition or as a way to kill an evening regardless of outcome), and probably the biggest detriment to the game.


(was catching up on the thread in a background tab)

SaviourX fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Feb 24, 2017

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

SaviourX posted:

If you already own Warhams elves, this poo poo is like one step higher in lasciviousness.



...

LordAba
Oct 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

SaviourX posted:

Seriously though, all the pearl-clutching from goatse central is a little much. Does nudity have to have nuance in a game? Does horror have to be tasteful? And if so, how much? What level?

Most of the actual nudity is contained to the rulebook depicting starting survivors, and is where most of the edge-lordiness comes in. Optional creatures like the tentacle demon are about 5% of the entire game, from what I've experienced so far, which has mostly been slaughtering/being slaughtered by monster lions and dudes that love lanterns a bit too much. You can get about the same eyeful on a casual scroll through of xvideos -> anime. If you already own Warhams elves, this poo poo is like one step higher in lasciviousness. Like someone else said, the style is pretty much a Heavy Metal cover.

While I don't like most of the 2d art, the vast majority of the minis are unique as hell, and I appreciate the commitment to the weird theme of hands/lanterns/masks everywhere.

The RNG-fuckyouness of the game is either lovely/amusing on how you like to play your games (to completion of a win condition or as a way to kill an evening regardless of outcome), and probably the biggest detriment to the game.


(was catching up on the thread in a background tab)

CRAWLING IN MY SKIN

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

SaviourX posted:

Seriously though, all the pearl-clutching from goatse central is a little much. Does nudity have to have nuance in a game? Does horror have to be tasteful? And if so, how much? What level?

Most of the actual nudity is contained to the rulebook depicting starting survivors, and is where most of the edge-lordiness comes in. Optional creatures like the tentacle demon are about 5% of the entire game, from what I've experienced so far, which has mostly been slaughtering/being slaughtered by monster lions and dudes that love lanterns a bit too much. You can get about the same eyeful on a casual scroll through of xvideos -> anime. If you already own Warhams elves, this poo poo is like one step higher in lasciviousness. Like someone else said, the style is pretty much a Heavy Metal cover.

While I don't like most of the 2d art, the vast majority of the minis are unique as hell, and I appreciate the commitment to the weird theme of hands/lanterns/masks everywhere.

The RNG-fuckyouness of the game is either lovely/amusing on how you like to play your games (to completion of a win condition or as a way to kill an evening regardless of outcome), and probably the biggest detriment to the game.


(was catching up on the thread in a background tab)

Why can't you admit pornographic pinups and dick monsters are the public face of this game?

PJOmega
May 5, 2009
It's always fun watching a certifiable goon meltdown over defending a game. Please continue.

Cinnamon Bear
Aug 29, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

mango sentinel posted:

Why can't you admit pornographic pinups and dick monsters are the public face of this game?

I find it difficult to be invested in other board games because I'm constantly distracted wondering "what does the creator jack it to?". Kingdom Death has finally saved me from this conundrum by laying its fetishes out on the table.

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

if you think that's bad, have you heard of warhammer elves??

Agrias120
Jun 27, 2002

I will burn my dread.

When does the backerkit need to be filled out by? I keep getting e-mail reminders, but can't find the information on when the deadline is.

HazCat
May 4, 2009

Agrias120 posted:

When does the backerkit need to be filled out by? I keep getting e-mail reminders, but can't find the information on when the deadline is.

20th of March according to KS comments. Not sure on the original source, though.

Wazzu
Feb 28, 2008

Are you sure I'm winning the Rumble? That does'nt seem right.....

Vehementi posted:

Awesome. Let me be the first to say: Anyone having buyer's remorse and want to sell their KS account without gouging me 50%? Just heard about the game and super bummed that I've missed out on everything.

They have the 'request late pledge' option on the KS. You'd likely be jumping into a not great tier, but it's your best option. Poots did say he didn't support selling pledges.

Meanwhile I keep being tempted to add additional stuff. Frogdog, Nightmare Ram, Black knight etc. Then I see I've already managed to look at spending $740. Holy poo poo.

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo
I've currently just got a few singles but keep thinking about adding the Abyssal Woods expansion.

SaviourX
Sep 30, 2003

The only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Meriwether, or Eartha Kitt.

Guys. Guysss. I was at a gallery showing of prints from the Tale of Genji and other Japanese works, and guess what... there was nudity some of them! And dicks. And giant dicks and balls. And all I could think to myself was 'How can I enjoy this, much less look at it when considering all the creepy fetishistic ideas of the artist?'

I brought this up with the staff but they just kind of blandly looked through me as I writhed on the floor, demanding they acknowledge my meltdown.

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

LOL

neongrey
Feb 28, 2007

Plaguing your posts with incidental music.
Yes, a classic work of literature is the same thing as this board game that sells tentacle rape models, the sunlight glinting from your fedora has truly enlightened me, wise internet man.

SaviourX
Sep 30, 2003

The only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Meriwether, or Eartha Kitt.

Uh, the point being that an artist's interpretation of a work is subject to the same critiques of 'fetishism' when they came up with the depiction, and it didn't exist in a vacuum the hundred or so years ago when it was made. Right alongside all the ukiyo-e cheesecake pornographic pinups that were made of it or shown alongside it.

Kind of like the tail of history that would lead to anime tittay and how that would inspire some weird guy named Poots to put it in his game?

Now I think that you're being deliberately obtuse.



E: did you see the new Alien movie trailer? It has prehensile tail rape in it! How are audiences supposed to enjoy watching something like that when all they can think of is Ridley Scott's weird fetishes as he cinematically tips his fedora?

SaviourX fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Feb 27, 2017

neongrey
Feb 28, 2007

Plaguing your posts with incidental music.
No, no, it's too much, I am too enlightened, you have already convinced me that the rape models are good, I am swooning from the power of your rational and not in the slightest bit disingenuous argument.

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



SaviourX posted:

Uh, the point being that an artist's interpretation of a work is subject to the same critiques of 'fetishism' when they came up with the depiction, and it didn't exist in a vacuum the hundred or so years ago when it was made. Right alongside all the ukiyo-e cheesecake pornographic pinups that were made of it or shown alongside it.

Kind of like the tail of history that would lead to anime tittay and how that would inspire some weird guy named Poots to put it in his game?

Now I think that you're being deliberately obtuse.



E: did you see the new Alien movie trailer? It has prehensile tail rape in it! How are audiences supposed to enjoy watching something like that when all they can think of is Ridley Scott's weird fetishes as he cinematically tips his fedora?

wow so brave to defend the titty game that made millions of dollars

Sloober
Apr 1, 2011
Fetish titty game now, high art later

500 years in the future a thin alien archaeologist will unearth a kingdom death box, and say,'this is art'

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Sloober posted:

Fetish titty game now, high art later

500 years in the future a thin alien archaeologist will unearth a kingdom death box, and say,'this is art'

A thousand years after North America is buried by the yellowstone supervolcano a Kingdom Death miniatures collection will be unearthed and treated with the same reverence as the dick graffiti at Pompeii.

Cinnamon Bear
Aug 29, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

SaviourX posted:

E: did you see the new Alien movie trailer? It has prehensile tail rape in it! How are audiences supposed to enjoy watching something like that when all they can think of is Ridley Scott's weird fetishes as he cinematically tips his fedora?

maybe there is a difference between watching a horror movie and decorating your home with rape miniatures? idk, might just be me

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

SaviourX posted:

Uh, the point being that an artist's interpretation of a work is subject to the same critiques of 'fetishism' when they came up with the depiction, and it didn't exist in a vacuum the hundred or so years ago when it was made. Right alongside all the ukiyo-e cheesecake pornographic pinups that were made of it or shown alongside it.

Kind of like the tail of history that would lead to anime tittay and how that would inspire some weird guy named Poots to put it in his game?

Now I think that you're being deliberately obtuse.



E: did you see the new Alien movie trailer? It has prehensile tail rape in it! How are audiences supposed to enjoy watching something like that when all they can think of is Ridley Scott's weird fetishes as he cinematically tips his fedora?

take a breath, dude

Cinnamon Bear
Aug 29, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:

take a breath, dude

watch out dude he's gonna come back with a sweet burn in six weeks outta nowhere

neongrey
Feb 28, 2007

Plaguing your posts with incidental music.
first they came for the tentacle rape titty figurines, and i spoke out--
because they are morally and aesthetically equivalent to classical nude statues

LordAba
Oct 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Cinnamon Bear posted:

watch out dude he's gonna come back with a sweet burn in six weeks outta nowhere

You'll read the whole post, but you only need the EDGE!

PJOmega
May 5, 2009
It's like Chernobyl, but this meltdown is more toxic.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

neongrey posted:

first they came for the tentacle rape titty figurines, and i spoke out--
because they are morally and aesthetically equivalent to classical nude statues

To be fair, those classical sculptors were probably lewd assholes too. :it'sarts:

Sloober
Apr 1, 2011

PJOmega posted:

It's like Chernobyl, but this meltdown is more toxic.

This thread is 'The Zone' only without scientific artifact oddities

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
I really hope this game isn't as creepy as yall say.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Phi230 posted:

I really hope this game isn't as creepy as yall say.

You can choose how much exposure you have to that depending on the models you buy. What you can't control is that at its core, it's literally Candyland or the old Talisman board games.

neongrey
Feb 28, 2007

Plaguing your posts with incidental music.

adhuin posted:

To be fair, those classical sculptors were probably lewd assholes too. :it'sarts:

i will kinkshame Michelangelo's micropenis fetish

SaviourX
Sep 30, 2003

The only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Meriwether, or Eartha Kitt.

None of you actually countered with more than 'b-b-b-but titties.'
The actual mechanics of the game have been discussed at length already. Choose your own adventure with an element of RNG gently caress-you.

Disclaimer: I haven't spent a single cent on either kickstarter. I think most minis are a waste of space and resources. Some of these are just more interesting. The phoenix is a pretty great piece of sculpture.

If anyone wants to point to anywhere in the base set of either campaign that has anything more than body horror elements in the minis, feel free.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/poots/kingdom-death-monster
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/poots/kingdom-death-monster-15

All I see are optional cheesecake chicks (and dudes), half of which wouldn't be out of place in cosplay, and one optional dick monster.

Reminder that people everywhere have had literal facerape and metaphorical razordick monsters on their desks for decades.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

SaviourX posted:

None of you actually countered with more than 'b-b-b-but titties.'
The actual mechanics of the game have been discussed at length already. Choose your own adventure with an element of RNG gently caress-you.

So you're saying it's a bad game. RNG gently caress-you is a gentle was of putting how the RNG is in this game.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


"But tiddies!" Is a good enough reason not to bust this game out at your LGS during board game night, IMO.

PJOmega
May 5, 2009
Next he'll be defending the artistic merits of Tanto Cuoro or Tentacle Bento.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

PJOmega posted:

Next he'll be defending the artistic merits of Tanto Cuoro or Tentacle Bento.

Tanto Cuore isn't all that bad a game as a Dominion clone. Tentacle Bento is trash.

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

"it actually has significant artistic merit???"

PJOmega
May 5, 2009

Xelkelvos posted:

Tanto Cuore isn't all that bad a game as a Dominion clone. Tentacle Bento is trash.

I actually like the gameplay of TC but it's never going to hit my table. Sold my blacked out set to a friend and I simply don't care enough to do it again.

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mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo
Most of the expansions and lots of the non pin-up figures have breasts out models experiencing varying levels of sexual menace, and lots of dick flopping monsters. The core rulebook is basically pornographic.

The game is mechanically bad and full of problematic pornography. Why are you defending like it's something normal people would ever want to engage with at an LGS?

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