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Kjoery posted:in which spunky doesnt understand neural nets, machine learning, and basic capitalism In which Kjoery doesn't understand the difference between the present and the future.
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SpaceGoatFarts posted:That interview is only focusing on the manufacturing sector, it's absolutely not looking at the global picture. Day traders are hosed, the computers just go in there and make millions of transactions, I don't think anyone is crying over them haha, but then to take their place you get people who write the algorithms so I don't know what the trade off is
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Feb 27, 2017 17:13
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Day traders are hosed, the computers just go in there and make millions of transactions, I don't think anyone is crying over them haha, but then to take their place you get people who write the algorithms so I don't know what the trade off is So you actually agree robots are taking jobs (and not only trader's ones), and only create a few specific ones (coders).
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Feb 27, 2017 17:16
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Coders jobs which are also easier to outsource to India
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Feb 27, 2017 17:18
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It's almost like when one job disappears it motivates people to find other ways to offer value to the economy. Huh so weird what a novel concept.
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Feb 27, 2017 17:19
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/post...m=.9cfd70a9f6fd you found one source who says that, but everything else says different. most of the manufacturing jobs have gone to robots, not outsourcing. even outsourced jobs are now getting automated. humans dont make your iphone anymore
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Feb 27, 2017 17:27
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Smeed posted:It's almost like when one job disappears it motivates people to find other ways to offer value to the economy. Huh so weird what a novel concept. what we are saying is the rules are changing. that new job people move to will also quickly be automated you can even automate programming and IT work. you can automate automation
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Feb 27, 2017 17:29
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/post...m=.9cfd70a9f6fd phew, well it's a good thing there aren't real world examples of jobs that have been replaced by automation!
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Feb 27, 2017 17:29
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Smeed posted:It's almost like when one job disappears it motivates people to find other ways to offer value to the economy. Huh so weird what a novel concept. which is totally why participation rate isn't dropping like a rock
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Feb 27, 2017 17:30
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Kjoery posted:in which spunky doesnt understand neural nets, machine learning, and basic capitalism nobody else in the world really understands neural nets either, and machine learning has limits too
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Feb 27, 2017 17:30
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:nobody else in the world really understands neural nets either, and machine learning has limits too what are the limits of machine learning? Be specific, and be sure to explain why those limits will never be overcome.
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Feb 27, 2017 17:31
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Professor SJW posted:what we are saying is the rules are changing. that new job people move to will also quickly be automated sorry there's no future for you grandpa. The world belongs to nerds now 
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Feb 27, 2017 17:32
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Smeed posted:It's almost like when one job disappears it motivates people to find other ways to offer value to the economy. Huh so weird what a novel concept. yes this has happened throughout the 20th century and is still happening and new economy sectors are being created using technology also we already work some insane amount of hours less than our counterparts back in like 1900 how old is the average poster itt that we literally have an apocalyptic luddite crew lmao
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Feb 27, 2017 17:36
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SpaceGoatFarts posted:sorry there's no future for you grandpa. The world belongs to nerds now lol its true
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Feb 27, 2017 17:40
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runupon cracker posted:what are the limits of machine learning? Be specific, and be sure to explain why those limits will never be overcome. if you mean theoretical there is for example the no free lunch theorem but i assume your question is really about economics machine learning is an extremely useful tool but it's not going to suddenly progress so quickly that we will abolish catastrophic amounts of human jobs. it's extremely difficult research and between major advances there is plenty of time for the workforce to adapt and new economic activity to develop
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Feb 27, 2017 17:43
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I'm just gonna find the biggest robot I can and suck its dick and then I'll be under his protection.
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Feb 27, 2017 17:45
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SpaceGoatFarts posted:So you actually agree robots are taking jobs (and not only trader's ones), and only create a few specific ones (coders). Of course automation and robots are taking jobs but a lot of people seem to think this somehow negates the effect of globalization and use it to justify off shoring factories
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Feb 27, 2017 17:49
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Of course automation and robots are taking jobs but a lot of people seem to think this somehow negates the effect of globalization and use it to justify off shoring factories i think people are worried because trump hasn't mentioned automation even once. not even a tweet. and since it's actually the thing that has taken the majority of manufacturing jobs that makes people feel like he doesnt have the right priorities you know that plant he "saved" in indiana? those jobs arent going to mexico but recently they announced they are automating a lot of them. so yay american robots got jobs
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Feb 27, 2017 17:59
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Professor SJW posted:i think people are worried because trump hasn't mentioned automation even once. not even a tweet. and since it's actually the thing that has taken the majority of manufacturing jobs that makes people feel like he doesnt have the right priorities Yah but like I told either you or Moridin, if you got the plants here you can seize them one day for the proletariat to nationalize or go in and smash all the robots if they're in Mexico you're powerless Also its still good to manufacture things here for trade ya know
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Feb 27, 2017 18:01
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:if you mean theoretical there is for example the no free lunch theorem Yeah like in manufacturing where- Professor SJW posted:you know that plant he "saved" in indiana? those jobs arent going to mexico but recently they announced they are automating a lot of them. so yay american robots got jobs oh. So we'll just train people to be tech savvy and collegedebt.com posted:http://collegedebt.com/ oh.
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scrubs season six posted:I'm just gonna find the biggest robot I can and suck its dick and then I'll be under his protection. 
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Feb 27, 2017 18:04
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scrubs season six posted:I'm just gonna find the biggest robot I can and suck its dick and then I'll be under his protection. They'll make a robot that can suck so many robot dicks you'll be obsolete
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Feb 27, 2017 18:05
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loving robots taking performance art jobs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JestwuC1Cik
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Feb 27, 2017 18:10
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revdrkevind posted:Yeah like in manufacturing where- so is this the part where you pretend these are insurmountable problems or what
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Feb 27, 2017 18:14
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:so is this the part where you pretend these are insurmountable problems or what
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You know who really hates the idea of computers and robots taking jobs and taking over? Alex Jones. Anti-human Technocracy he calls it
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Kjoery posted:they're not insurmountable you frog-brained cumguzzler, we've been discussing solutions in this very thread okay? thanks for telling me what i already know e: you seriously haven't even read my post have you kjoery lol Bulgogi Hoagie fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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Feb 27, 2017 18:19
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T.S. Smelliot posted:Moridin you're a loving moron, no one here is your "fam" despite your insistence on using retarded high school words to describe familiarity every post you make. I guess I'm a big gbs boogeyman because I tend to take a harsh stance on pot abuse but Jesus Christ is your brain really this fried? Are you so fried that you really think 'fam' means I think you're all my loving family? lmao fuckin idiot. I just heard Skepta use it a lot and I'm diggin it (esp 'cuz it annoys the gently caress out of idiots like you for some reason). Why is that post the one you took offence at btw, the one that is in response to "racial tensions in the 90s were much better than they were today" which is objectively a pretty erroneous statement? T.S. Smelliot posted:I tend to take a harsh stance on pot abuse tell me more T.S. Smelliot posted:Haha yeah marijuana is like, NOT a drug that is/can be considered a drug of abuse, like, guys, fuckin squares, mannnnn *zones out staring at wall for 10 mins*, like, I completely think marijuanas decades long rep as a drug for lazy unproductive brain dead idiots is totallyyyy, like, done by the government and George Bush mannn, and like, *falls asleep* lmao look at you look at how stupid you are Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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Feb 27, 2017 18:27
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Moridin920 posted:Why is that post the one you took offence at btw, the one that is in response to "racial tensions in the 90s were much better than they were today" which is objectively a pretty erroneous statement? Haha were you even like a conscious creature then? And You're even wrong "objectively" http://www.gallup.com/poll/190574/worries-race-relations-reach-new-high.aspx Do some research man
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:okay? thanks for telling me what i already know the thing is, automation via machine learning doesn't quite follow this rule. the new areas of industry that are opened up will not go to humans - they'll go to robots. i suspect you may fundamentally misunderstand how powerful and flexible the algorithm is. i am sorry for calling you a frog-brained cumguzzler though. i was really excited to use the insult on someone, and got ahead of myself (to be fair, the cumguzzler part isnt an insult. guzzling cum is great)
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Haha were you even like a conscious creature then? Just because minorities are more vocal about their issues today does not mean they did not exist back then. This is what your link says: quote:35% of Americans are worried a great deal about race relations Yeah I'm pretty sure there are indeed more white people worried about race relations??? So what? quote:Blacks 45 31 53 White worry almost doubled, black worry stayed about the same. ALSO, quote:More than a third (35%) of Americans now say they are worried "a great deal" about race relations in the U.S. -- which is higher than at any time since Gallup first asked the question in 2001. So that's kind of meaningless since we're comparing to the 90s yeah? I mean cmon man at least double check what you're linking. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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Moridin920 posted:
I said late 90's bro which is pretty close to 2001 As a human being that was almost an adult in the late 90's, we weren't close to a race war like today. It was much more harmonious
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:I said late 90's bro which is pretty close to 2001 Oh come the gently caress on with this goal moving bullshit man. Alright fine, even if I concede that, my point of "black people are just as worried as they ever have been, white people are just worried more. That doesn't mean racial issues were better in the 90s in of itself" still stands no? quote:Blacks 45 31 53 Black worry took a dip in 2012-2014, otherwise it was about 1 in 2 ever since the start of that poll. Right? It's just white people are worried more bc black people are becoming more politically conscious since the first time since COINTELPRO hosed up the Panthers. These racial tensions and issues existed in the 90s, too, it just wasn't as on the surface because economic times were okay. They didn't just appear in the 2010s out of nowhere. poo poo wasn't great for minorities in the 90s just because their complaints were less vocal. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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Feb 27, 2017 18:36
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Moridin920 posted:Oh come the gently caress on with this goal moving bullshit man. Goal moving bullshit? I always said late 90's. Early 90's was Rodney king and stuff but after that it got chilled out and then late 90's up until the last couple years it has been fine, then BLM started getting tons of media attention and with the presidential race it went ballistic
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:As a human being that was almost an adult in the late 90's, we weren't close to a race war like today. It was much more harmonious Well I lived in CA in the 90s and it was pretty much close to race war when the LA riots happened. I know your previous response was "well but that was '92, too early" so whatever. We can disagree man whatever, it was more just that I was amazed that that was the post Smelliot decided was beyond the pale on my part. I make some pretty dumb posts so why that one?
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thathonkey posted:truck drivers will be automated out of existence within the next 5 years Doubt it. 5 years to develop safe technologies, get them legalized, get the system adapted to them, and then have all the companies switch over? Nah
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Doubt it. 5 years to develop safe technologies, get them legalized, get the system adapted to them, and then have all the companies switch over?
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Can't wait for there to be 40 ton driverless semis barreling down the expressway at 70 mph thats not scary at all
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It's a scary thought but if they are statistically safer than humans then whatevs. Think about all the drivers on long rear end runs popping amphetamines. But yeah I agree it'll take longer than just 5 years.
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