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Evil Canadian posted:And yet nothing about blocking kensei's dashing light getting a guardbreak being fixed Lmao Kensei's dodge attack is unsafe on block? it's like the easiest thing in the world to block & parry.
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Sultan Tarquin posted:Lmao Kensei's dodge attack is unsafe on block? it's like the easiest thing in the world to block & parry. Yep. You can get a free GB simply off of blocking it. Because, ya know, Kensei doesn't have enough problems 
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Feb 27, 2017 20:34
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Oh hey new patch notes let's see if they buff up some of the struggling classes. Oh good they did nothing but buff assassins, who are already pretty dominant. 
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Feb 27, 2017 20:39
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TwingeCrag posted:If they made the Lawbringer's light attack after a shove an actual part of his kit instead of a weird unlock bug/tech thing then I'd stop complaining about his balance forever, I promise. Yeah, I'm trying to play Lawbringer up to prestige 3 so I can get all the fancy purple gear but sitting at prestige 2 it feels like his usefulness is dropping off. 1v1 fights are mostly won from his shove > guard break > side heavy cheese and anything else feels like I'm just shoving them around without actually accomplishing anything. All his attacks are slow and easy to dodge so it's either that cheese strat or Long Arm > light attack to chip them down. Or throw them off a cliff. Also what the hell am I even supposed to be doing against Shugoki? Seems like a complete hard counter.
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Feb 27, 2017 20:42
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*Views patch notes* *Throws hands up in air* Welp that's it! I'm declaring this a Titanfall! This is a Titanfall, folks!
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Feb 27, 2017 20:49
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I'm super happy with those patch notes. The Valk buff is gonna be fantastic and will make playing her enjoyable. Also, the extra dodge back distance on Orochi's riptide is bloody brilliant. That move was almost impossible to pull off because you'd never dodge back far enough to avoid getting clipped. It'll mean it has more utility in fights now. As for PK? They nerfed her bleed damage guys. I don't see why everyone is grabbing the pitchforks. They didn't buff her, they just made it so her light attacks have a chance to connect. I've seen so many PKs who light attack and just swing at air. It's a total bitch and throws you out of your flow. Valk had the same, where her light attacks would just swing at air instead of her engaging forward slightly to connect. And wow, they made it so her light attacks can connect after a parry? How is that making her more powerful. It's just giving her the chance to punish people. Imagine how much bullshit it is if you parried someone and your light attack just swings at air. I've never played PK, I don't like her playstyle, but I don't think this update is gonna make her even stronger. It's just gonna allow her to make moves she previously couldn't, so maybe now we'll see skilled plays from PK instead of the same leap forward attack / side attack spam.
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Feb 27, 2017 20:50
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Feb 27, 2017 20:52
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Loopoo posted:I'm super happy with those patch notes. The Valk buff is gonna be fantastic and will make playing her enjoyable. Also, the extra dodge back distance on Orochi's riptide is bloody brilliant. That move was almost impossible to pull off because you'd never dodge back far enough to avoid getting clipped. It'll mean it has more utility in fights now. Please source your quotes.
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Feb 27, 2017 20:54
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Loopoo posted:As for PK? They nerfed her bleed damage guys. I don't see why everyone is grabbing the pitchforks. They didn't buff her Loopoo posted:I've never played PK Hmmmmmm
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Feb 27, 2017 20:56
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The Gate posted:Hmmmmmm I've played against them so much, I know how frustrating an enemy they can be. But I genuinely don't believe this patch is going to make her more difficult. It's just gonna allow them to properly play the class instead of resorting to spamming the same attacks, since her light attacks should actually connect now.
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Another thing coming nowish: edit: also there were bug fixes eric pope posted on reddit in the patch thread, some controller stuff was broken (blocking didnt work with steam controller I guess), dualshock 4 connected via some usb adapter, buncha stuff idk i'm not gonna copy it all Indecisive fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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Feb 27, 2017 21:00
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Indecisive posted:Another thing coming nowish: This is the best part of the patch.
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Loopoo posted:I've played against them so much, I know how frustrating an enemy they can be. But I genuinely don't believe this patch is going to make her more difficult. It's just gonna allow them to properly play the class instead of resorting to spamming the same attacks, since her light attacks should actually connect now. So what you're saying is they gave them more options without nerfing the options they already had?
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Loopoo posted:I've played against them so much, I know how frustrating an enemy they can be. But I genuinely don't believe this patch is going to make her more difficult. It's just gonna allow them to properly play the class instead of resorting to spamming the same attacks, since her light attacks should actually connect now. What will actually happen is PK players will just spam the same attacks from slightly further away, out of a parry. Hooray!
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Feb 27, 2017 21:05
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Captain Oblivious posted:Yep. You can get a free GB simply off of blocking it. Yeah this really sucks for Kensei because his dodge attack is one of his better opening moves for going on offense. Still like playing Kensei, the unblockable top cancel into side un-interruptable is fun stuff, but that free GB needs to go
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Feb 27, 2017 21:05
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Glad they acknowledged the potential playerbase fragmentation issue with the skirmish/elimination change. As much as I hate being put in a skirmish match when I want to play elimination, increasing the number of matchmaking hoppers could lead to problems down the line.
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Feb 27, 2017 21:07
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Indecisive posted:Another thing coming nowish: Thank god almighty, skirmish can rightfully whither away in it's own little virtual ghetto now. Also zerker is my boy so at least I get to be one of the people that can partway be happy about the changes.
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Feb 27, 2017 21:09
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Yardbomb posted:Thank god almighty, skirmish can rightfully whither away in it's own little virtual ghetto now. The way it's phrased makes it sound like once Skirmish starts having issues with playerbase numbers, they will potentially merge again. When I hopped on for the first time in a while last night, Duel was down to Low Activity. What happened there? Did the quality of fights noticeably change, or can you still get a decent duel?
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Sdoots posted:The way it's phrased makes it sound like once Skirmish starts having issues with playerbase numbers, they will potentially merge again. It's been at low to medium activity for me on PC since day 1, but I usually only have to wait 30 seconds max for a match.
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Feb 27, 2017 21:32
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Sdoots posted:The way it's phrased makes it sound like once Skirmish starts having issues with playerbase numbers, they will potentially merge again. They also said they're looking into quests only counting for one, so hopefully by the time they merge the queues they'll also let you use both gamemodes for the same orders.
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Feb 27, 2017 21:36
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Exodee posted:A knight's plate armor being super heavy and restrictive is a myth. In fact, there's even records of a baron doing somersaults in full plate. I feel like that is probably how it was, but you just know there were a few guys who felt they needed even more protection and just piled on the steel until one of them got puddled to death.
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Fixed a bug where Peacekeepers were sometimes losing matches. VVV I think its a way better loving around mode than elimination. Its a lot more chaotic and is basically an endless brawl. Its also the one mode where people will never complain about honor. Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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Feb 27, 2017 21:42
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Does anyone even enjoy skirmish? Every time it plays, everyone moans. It's so slow, longwinded and boring. It's like elimination but even more frustrating.
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FisheyStix posted:I feel like that is probably how it was, but you just know there were a few guys who felt they needed even more protection and just piled on the steel until one of them got puddled to death. It'd make it a lot easier to hold someone down in a puddle, for sure. There were some incredibly heavy jousting designs developed later on that we're never really meant to be used on a battlefield. They armored the crap out of them so that the jousters had a much lower chance of accidentally killing or maiming each other, but they weren't really practical for fighting. I think that's where the image of the armored-too-heavily-to-move Knight comes from. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_armour#Jousting
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Like seriously, thank god they buffed the poor Peacekeeper's attack range! It was such a crippling problem for her. Don't bother fixing the bug that lets assassin classes not fall over in guardbreak though. That's perfectly fair and not ruining tons of games. Fucks sake.
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News keeps coming, to make up for the outage the other day they're giving everyone champion status this weekend (March 3-5) and there will be a special global quest that gives more steel than normal for completing. If you already have champ status you get +3 days on it.
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Loopoo posted:Does anyone even enjoy skirmish? Every time it plays, everyone moans. It's so slow, longwinded and boring. It's like elimination but even more frustrating. There was one goon who posted before that he really liked skirmish. Could be trolling but he went in depth so it sounded genuine. I hate it. I love dominion even, and I hate skirmish. Its just pointless. This is an awesome change. Hopefully if they ever do put them back into the same hopper, they'll at least make it so that orders are "in elimination OR skirmish" instead of one or the other. Indecisive posted:News keeps coming, to make up for the outage the other day they're giving everyone champion status this weekend (March 3-5) and there will be a special global quest that gives more steel than normal for completing. If you already have champ status you get +3 days on it. Huzzah!
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Indecisive posted:News keeps coming, to make up for the outage the other day they're giving everyone champion status this weekend (March 3-5) and there will be a special global quest that gives more steel than normal for completing. If you already have champ status you get +3 days on it. Apparently bonus XP from Champion Status stacks the more people on your team have it, so if everyone is going to have it by default this weekend it's going to be better for grinding levels than if you actually paid for it.
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I am a berserker main and I feel OK about the changes. I agree that gear stats need to be looked at the most and that assassin classes weren't the ones that really needed to be buffed but the guard break counter change sounds good (I always have trouble with the mechanic even after practicing alot with it and people who can hit it every time are literally wizards to me) but all in all its an OK first patch and wasn't too untimely. I agree with the previous poster who said that rushing a patch out too quickly can cause more trouble so I'm glad that they took there time.
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Apparently bonus XP from Champion Status stacks the more people on your team have it, so if everyone is going to have it by default this weekend it's going to be better for grinding levels than if you actually paid for it. That makes sense. I've noticed sometimes the green XP bar ends up almost as big as the match XP bar, but other times its just a tiny 10% bonus. I've been wondering what the reason was. The thing is champion status gives like what, 10% xp by default? And it also gives non-champions a 5% bonus. So likely you're getting your own 10% bonus plus 5% from each other player (even though you have your own), or even moreso maybe you get 10% plus 10% for each other person, if you're a champ and they are too. Either way it def seems to stack.
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Zaphod42 posted:That makes sense. I've noticed sometimes the green XP bar ends up almost as big as the match XP bar, but other times its just a tiny 10% bonus. I've been wondering what the reason was. It probably stacks like in Rainbow Six. If all 5 players on your team have a boost, you get 125% boost. So if all 4 of you have it, it'll be a 120% boost maybe?
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Feb 27, 2017 22:29
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Champion status gives you a 25% base bonus and a cute lil' green bow tie so that everyone knows to laugh at you.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Champion status gives you a 25% base bonus and a cute lil' green bow tie so that everyone knows to laugh at you. Heh, yeah, laughing while getting WRECKED
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As long as gear score as a concept exists in game dominion and 4v4 will remain a garbage fire. That ain't good for the longevity of the game when a big chunk of multiplayer is in that state regardless of how good dueling is. This needs a patch asap. I feel so bad for new players going in unaware and slamming face first into an impenetrable wall of revenge over and over not understanding why.
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I like the seperation of elim and the champion handouts. That and the fact I just had the two best dominion games of my life as Lawbringer just now. I managed to run and spear a guy off into a pit, spin around and shove someone off the edge of the map and then get a surprise throw on yet a third member of their team into previously mentioned pit. The next game was on High Fort and I just stood and became the gatekeeper of C. Remember the best LB advice I just made up: Wardens can't vortex you if they're being thrown off the map/into spikes. Also that your sprinting spear has priority over shoulderbash if you're running at eachother. edit: Probably goes without saying but gear score in 4v4 is dumb. I don't dislike feats though.
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How do you even fight berserkers? Because I get stomped by their side dash spin, and any time I win it feels like it's due to luck  It's the one class I can't get a read on.
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Concurred posted:How do you even fight berserkers? Because I get stomped by their side dash spin, and any time I win it feels like it's due to luck block in whatever direction they're spinning?
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TwingeCrag posted:edit: Probably goes without saying but gear score in 4v4 is dumb. I don't dislike feats though. If they really wanted to make gear matter they should tie the feats to gear. Then you could put on certain stuff and have certain feats. Base players would have base (easy to use) feats. Obviously they would need more feats for each character but the Gear could have different cosmetic effects (i.e. the bombs look different, the smoke is a different color) and so that would be kinda fun.
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Feb 27, 2017 23:19
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:If they really wanted to make gear matter they should tie the feats to gear. Then you could put on certain stuff and have certain feats. Base players would have base (easy to use) feats. This would be great. Especially with the transmog effect thing they already have in the game. Unfortunately they already let you unlock all the feats with microtransactions. (Totally pointless imo, it's pretty easy to get a character to level 17)
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Loopoo posted:Does anyone even enjoy skirmish? Every time it plays, everyone moans. It's so slow, longwinded and boring. It's like elimination but even more frustrating. You'd think more people would like it with how it's dominion-style deathmatch without any cap points. You even can slay mooks for a point a piece and the bots have the same waypoints. It does, however, have gear stats so naturally it will boil down to one boosted jackass on their team sprinting around the map like Benny Hill.
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