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Comrade Cheggorsky posted:can you name a more iconic duo?
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Seaside Loafer posted:Don't forget that he also openly said he talked to god about his decisions on wars. I dont know about you but I dont want religious people in charge, they get a bit weird Remember that a majority of the country are religious to some extent.
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Feb 27, 2017 21:48
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 Also what the gently caress is this I'm reading about EU citizens registering for their "right to live"? I mean, if you guys eventually start asking me to do any sort of registering for the "privilege" of staying in a failing economy instead of doing the sane thing and just allowing EU people to stay around, then you've got a surprise coming.
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Pissflaps posted:'Who?' -Jeremy Corbyn He knew them as PJ and Duncan
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Feb 27, 2017 22:09
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What sort of economy have you got back home?
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Breath Ray posted:What sort of economy have you got back home? Amsterdam, Berlin, Copenhagen, Stockholm - I can move to any of them and have a healthy economy to call home. I just get better money being in the UK right now. Also I'm a bit of an anglophile and I love London, but yeah, start revoking my right to live here and I'll book a plane gently caress you. Say bye to the £50k I pay in taxes every year. Pochoclo fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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Feb 27, 2017 22:39
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Jose posted:millions dead is worth it to pissflaps if labour win the election Between wrecking the NHS, causing mass unemployment and starving the resulting poor to death I wouldn't be surprised if May's body count ends up exceeding Blair's. It's a close run thing, but at least with Blair we were left with a functioning economy and public health and not a fascist international pariah.
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Feb 27, 2017 22:40
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Jedit posted:not a fascist international pariah. I mean, we kind of were.
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big scary monsters posted:In other Prime Minister Emeritus news, good to see that Cameron has been keeping himself busy with worthwhile endeavours. are you loving kidding me? MASSIVE LOLZ
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mediadave posted:I don't think this is true Oh yes it is: Blair 'prayed to God' over Iraq Prime Minister Tony Blair has told how he prayed to God when deciding whether or not to send UK troops to Iraq. Mr Blair answered "yes" when asked on ITV1 chat show Parkinson - to be screened on Saturday - if he had sought holy intervention on the issue. "Of course, you struggle with your own conscience about it... and it's one of these situations that, I suppose, very few people ever find themselves in." Anti-war campaigners attacked Mr Blair's comments as "a joke". Mr Blair told show host Michael Parkinson: "In the end, there is a judgement that, I think if you have faith about these things, you realise that judgement is made by other people... and if you believe in God, it's made by God as well." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4772142.stm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG77Jhr28BI
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Jedit posted:Between wrecking the NHS, causing mass unemployment and starving the resulting poor to death I wouldn't be surprised if May's body count ends up exceeding Blair's. It's a close run thing, but at least with Blair we were left with a functioning economy and public health and not a fascist international pariah. reminder that tories are afraid of riots in the next two years
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Feb 27, 2017 22:48
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Only because they think that haven't bought enough water canons
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Feb 27, 2017 22:49
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Pochoclo posted:Amsterdam, Berlin, Copenhagen, Stockholm - I can move to any of them and have a healthy economy to call home. I just get better money being in the UK right now. Those places are ok for a stag weekend but they're hardly long term options! Still, thanks for visiting and don't let the ferry door fail to close properly on your way out.
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Feb 27, 2017 22:53
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Breath Ray posted:Those places are ok for a stag weekend but they're hardly long term options! Always funny to see coddled first-worlders deal with babby's first crisis. You're in for some fun times, oh boy you are.
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Feb 27, 2017 22:57
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Breath Ray posted:Those places are ok for a stag weekend but they're hardly long term options! Paris, Vienna, Rome; Florence, Athens... You are a pound-shop Pissflaps.
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Feb 27, 2017 22:59
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If you pay £50k in tax you must be, er, rather wealthy. I think at that point it sort of borders on "you can't tax me I will leave and take my job creating with me!1" territory. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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OwlFancier posted:If you pay £50k in tax you must be, er, rather wealthy. High income != wealthy. Capital accumulation takes time. I don't create jobs though, compared to the actual capital class I'm just another poor. Also I've actually experienced deep crushing poverty for most of my childhood/teens so I'd like to think I have some perspective. Also I'm happy to pay taxes, I just made that quip because I was pissed at someone telling me the equivalent of "if you don't like it try somewhere else" when I'm trying to give a gently caress about this country. Pochoclo fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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Feb 27, 2017 23:02
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Compared to the overwhelming majority of people in the UK however you are very rich. Like that works out to about 150k a year salary which puts you in, uh, I think the 99th percentile in terms of income. You might be a bit booj.
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Feb 27, 2017 23:08
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"um actually im high-income not wealthy" is like "actually its ephebophilia" for the middle class (the other one being for the upper class, obviously)
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I definitely think at that point you are the coddled first worlder at the very least. Or you're maybe not allowed to complain that other people are.
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Okay sure I'm extremely well off when you compare me with someone making minimum wage, what I was trying to say is that I haven't had this income for decades so I don't have real estate lying around or massive investments making me passive income. The current tech bubble is being kind to me, and hopefully I'll get an early retirement out of it, that's all.
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cargohills posted:"um actually im high-income not wealthy" is like "actually its ephebophilia" for the middle class (the other one being for the upper class, obviously) "the middle class" is bullshit you either work to live or you don't and the numbers on the paycheck are hardly relevant to this in the ultimate sense.
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Can we not call the south american immigrant booj when he's actually paying his loving taxes and not a total poo poo politically
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We might have to strip your wealth when u leave
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Don't blame it on the sunshine don't blame it on the moonlight Don't blame it on the good times Blame it on the bougie
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pochoclo should take his tech skills and move to the best part of the island and videogame capital of the world
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JFairfax posted:are you loving kidding me? Good to see the best post-fuckup work he's managed to get is selling poo poo out of the back of a van
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Coohoolin posted:pochoclo should take his tech skills and move to the best part of the island and videogame capital of the world Ah, my house
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Pochoclo posted:Okay sure I'm extremely well off when you compare me with someone making minimum wage, what I was trying to say is that I haven't had this income for decades so I don't have real estate lying around or massive investments making me passive income. The current tech bubble is being kind to me, and hopefully I'll get an early retirement out of it, that's all. You take home more in a year ost tax than I expect to pay for my home later this year. And thats with me strapping myself to a 30 year debt. I appreciate you have likely had a long time of minimal funds, but now you literally pay more in tax in a year then I get paid in 2 and a half. And I sort of live okay.
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Coohoolin posted:pochoclo should take his tech skills and move to the best part of the island and videogame capital of the world Actually it's kinda sad but videogame dev jobs pay really low salaries.
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Spangly A posted:"the middle class" is bullshit pretty sure the numbers on the paycheck mean quite a lot for your quality of life tbqh and i think ignoring the difference between the working class and the middle class is a bad idea.
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Also they have hilarious labour practices. Like hilarious in an "I want to kill myself" kind of way.
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mehall posted:You take home more in a year ost tax than I expect to pay for my home later this year. And thats with me strapping myself to a 30 year debt. There is an important issue in understanding the false distinction made between classes in the UK. Earning more than most people whilst still dependent on work and without property makes you working class. Having property that cannot support you makes you petit-borgeoise/middle class, and in a self imposed economic recession the key distinctions are that you either take a bit longer to starve to death or you have the chance to flee. These are not minor irrelevancies, but they don't make you capitalist either. e; and more to the point, given how often the "aspirational" parasite-fantasists of the British petit-bourgeoise vote tory, it's quite nice to see when people with more money are properly redistributing it and not being class traitors. Wealth isn't bad. Wealth is great, we can all live better. It is inequality, exploitation, and capital that gently caress the poor. Spangly A fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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Death to those who believe in the middle class as anything more than a capitalist construct
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I feel like there is a meaningful distinction between me and someone with the ability to achieve the end result of fifteen years of my life, in one of theirs.
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Spangly A posted:There is an important issue in understanding the false distinction made between classes in the UK. But the thing is once you're earning over a certain threshold, yes you may need to move to another country or something, but there will be demand for your skills. I am glad someone who is glad to pay the tax is earning that much as opposed to someone who isnt, but lets not kid ourselves and say that the guy with a 6 figure paycheck doesnt have options.
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Namtab posted:Ah, my house I thought you were the anime capital? How'd you claim my video game capital title off me? 
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Pochoclo posted:Always funny to see coddled first-worlders deal with babby's first crisis. You're in for some fun times, oh boy you are. I don't think it's cool of you to boast about how much you're earning thanks to being in this country, then laugh at our misfortune for having made an economically harmful democratic decision. Frankly, it's rude.
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Wealth has a great isolating factor from the harsh edges of reality; not worrying about rent for a few months even if disaster strikes is a great sense to carry around. Risk of being deported probably overcomes that though. Not to mention how bonkers your perspective can get when you're surrounded by millionaires and you only earn £250k or something. Also check out who the Graudian likes now: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/27/the-guardian-view-on-george-w-bush-a-welcome-return
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Mister Adequate posted:I thought you were the anime capital? How'd you claim my video game capital title off me? Sounds like he's seized all the means of preventing reproduction.
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