NBA Playoffs 2016-17 G/V: The Playoffs Are A Band Metaphor Now

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EvanTH: Apr 24, 2004; i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

Whoa I didn't realize Dario Saric was averaging 21/10 over his last 5 games

Tae posted:

I've heard of revisionist history, but people rewriting how Porzingis was higher on every single GM's draft board than Okafor is confusing everytime it's brought up.

Pretty much. This ol' meme is a time capsule that makes almost no sense in retrospect for several reasons, RIP Flip:
https://streamable.com/rf3i

# ? Feb 27, 2017 23:25

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# ? May 29, 2024 06:22

Spring Break My Heart: Feb 15, 2012

Doltos posted:

Rose isn't some terrible basketball player. He still can get to the rim and hit open shots. He's just having trouble finishing because he obviously isn't as athletic anymore and he also doesn't pass enough or kick out enough on his drives.

Yeah but those are big issues and they're not going to get any better. It makes him a run of the mill bad player.

# ? Feb 27, 2017 23:28

EvanTH: Apr 24, 2004; i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

Doltos posted:

Rose isn't some terrible basketball player. He still can get to the rim and hit open shots. He's just having trouble finishing because he obviously isn't as athletic anymore and he also doesn't pass enough or kick out enough on his drives.

I dunno BPM, VORP, WS/48 and my personal eye test all say he is a terrible player. PER says he's a very slightly above average player.

# ? Feb 27, 2017 23:29

AggressivelyStupid: Jan 9, 2012

EvanTH posted:

I dunno BPM, VORP, WS/48 and my personal eye test all say he is a terrible player. PER says he's a very slightly above average player.

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/2/sort/RPM/position/1

I hate RPM but lol

# ? Feb 27, 2017 23:30

CRISPYBABY: Dec 15, 2007; by Reene

EvanTH posted:

He's courtside almost every game! He watches a lot of basketball

He watches the Knicks home games, yeah. I'm not convinced he's keeping up much with the rest of the league. Obviously this is pure idiotic conspiracy theory speculation on my part and GM's aren't huge tape-watchers in general, but Phil moreso than the others seems perfectly happy to gently caress off to Montana and enjoy his old age than keep his pulse on what's happening in the rest of the league. It matches up with his personnel moves and dumb tweets, anyways.

# ? Feb 27, 2017 23:58

Boosh!: Apr 12, 2002; Oven Wrangler

Rose also didn't bother showing up to a game this year.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 00:35

Drunk Canuck: Jan 9, 2010; Robots ruin all the fun of a good adventure.

Basically the next month the Raptors have to prove they are not fakers.

My alcohol intake will increase during this time too.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 00:41

AggressivelyStupid: Jan 9, 2012

https://twitter.com/twithersAP/status/836355483640479746

hmm, that number

# ? Feb 28, 2017 00:48

straight up brolic: Jan 31, 2007; After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

Lolllll

# ? Feb 28, 2017 00:53

Spacebump: Dec 24, 2003; Dallas Mavericks: Generations

AggressivelyStupid posted:

https://twitter.com/twithersAP/status/836355483640479746

hmm, that number

I'd be careful, usually after someone mocks 3-1 it happens to them.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 00:55

The Duggler: Feb 20, 2011; I do not hear you, I do not see you, I will not let you get into the Duggler's head with your bring-downs.

Drunk Canuck posted:

Basically the next month the Raptors have to prove they are not fakers.

My alcohol intake will increase during this time too.

I think Cojo will end the season much better, he really is a good/smart player and starter minutes will do him good.

Ibaka and Tucker look great but the sample size is too small to say with any certainty.

Hopefully we don't get Caseyd too much and the team performs well

# ? Feb 28, 2017 00:56

Jack's Flow: Jun 6, 2003; Life, friends, is boring

AggressivelyStupid posted:

https://twitter.com/twithersAP/status/836355483640479746

hmm, that number

I can appreciate that choice, Deron.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 00:59

leftist heap: Feb 28, 2013; Fun Shoe

EvanTH posted:

He's courtside almost every game! He watches a lot of basketball

shows wat u know

EvanTH posted:

Whoa I didn't realize Dario Saric was averaging 21/10 over his last 5 games

Pretty much. This ol' meme is a time capsule that makes almost no sense in retrospect for several reasons, RIP Flip:
https://streamable.com/rf3i

i laughed at both of these.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 01:08

leftist heap: Feb 28, 2013; Fun Shoe

if you have any other memes I missed please post them so that I can laugh at stale rear end memes

# ? Feb 28, 2017 01:09

leftist heap: Feb 28, 2013; Fun Shoe

I'm being 100% serious too.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 01:09

Mr. Mambold: Feb 13, 2011; Aha. Nice post.

AggressivelyStupid posted:

that is a weak rear end foul

You should have seen the grab n dive 30 seconds prior that Boogie used to foul out Roberson. Karma.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 01:20

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

EvanTH posted:

Was Jrue's astounding lack of effort on Westbrook's Boogie Fouls Out dunk (Dunk Of The Year right now) due to a lack of practiced scheme?
https://streamable.com/lmcu1

No, but they were on a back-to-back and he's been playing in a stupor since the trade.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 01:25

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

https://twitter.com/DeanO_Lytics/status/836223337370169344

poo poo, what were the other 11% like?

# ? Feb 28, 2017 01:26

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

WhyteRyce posted:

https://twitter.com/DeanO_Lytics/status/836223337370169344

poo poo, what were the other 11% like?

Very bad.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 01:28

Doltos: Dec 28, 2005; 🤌🤌🤌

WhyteRyce posted:

https://twitter.com/DeanO_Lytics/status/836223337370169344

poo poo, what were the other 11% like?

That's what I'm saying!! Everyone keeps saying the team needs time to gel but Gentry really hasn't done a single drat thing besides clear out iso's to Davis and Cousins. You'd think a NBA quality coach would call a cut or a hand off once in a while.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 01:37

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

Doltos posted:

That's what I'm saying!! Everyone keeps saying the team needs time to gel but Gentry really hasn't done a single drat thing besides clear out iso's to Davis and Cousins. You'd think a NBA quality coach would call a cut or a hand off once in a while.

They do hand offs constantly in their offense. Many possessions have three of them in a row as part of a weave where some guys also dive at the bucket at the same time.

The usage for other players is low because they are hesitating and then get covered or dump it to the bigs if there is any doubt (and there's a lot right now).

# ? Feb 28, 2017 01:40

The Duggler: Feb 20, 2011; I do not hear you, I do not see you, I will not let you get into the Duggler's head with your bring-downs.

Doltos posted:

That's what I'm saying!! Everyone keeps saying the team needs time to gel but Gentry really hasn't done a single drat thing besides clear out iso's to Davis and Cousins. You'd think a NBA quality coach would call a cut or a hand off once in a while.

Have you ever watched a raptors game?

# ? Feb 28, 2017 01:41

Doltos: Dec 28, 2005; 🤌🤌🤌

Kibner posted:

They do hand offs constantly in their offense. Many possessions have three of them in a row as part of a weave where some guys also dive at the bucket at the same time.

The usage for other players is low because they are hesitating and then get covered or dump it to the bigs if there is any doubt (and there's a lot right now).

That's the type of hand offs I'm talking about, not the perimeter rotations they do before shuttling it into Cousins or Davis. There is zero imagination in that offense and you can't just contribute it to the Cousins trade. They've had all season to come up with off the ball rotations surrounding Davis and they haven't done it.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 01:43

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

Doltos posted:

That's the type of hand offs I'm talking about, not the perimeter rotations they do before shuttling it into Cousins or Davis. There is zero imagination in that offense and you can't just contribute it to the Cousins trade. They've had all season to come up with off the ball rotations surrounding Davis and they haven't done it.

You just said they didn't do handoffs, though? I'm confused.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 01:45

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I remember there were a few games in the Mike Brown era where Kobe/Bynum/Pau had like 80% of the possessions. Like it's funny because that's what fans always demanded but in reality it just felt very disjointed and was bad basketball (and also showed where they were missing Fisher and Odom because they were both the "hey let's get some other people involved" guys).

# ? Feb 28, 2017 01:46

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Doltos posted:

That's what I'm saying!! Everyone keeps saying the team needs time to gel but Gentry really hasn't done a single drat thing besides clear out iso's to Davis and Cousins. You'd think a NBA quality coach would call a cut or a hand off once in a while.

Hey, NBA isn't 2k, the coach can't just press a button on a controller and have the players do something.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 01:46

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

There are also a decent amount of cuts to the rim, but :lol:

if you expect Hill to catch the ball and smoothing transition into a shot or Moore to finish over the top of anyone. Cunningham is the best cutter (non Davis-division) the team has and he gets a couple attempts per game with them.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 01:50

EvanTH: Apr 24, 2004; i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

leftist heap posted:

I'm being 100% serious too.

all I have is this

# ? Feb 28, 2017 01:52

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

While I'm ranting, the current biggest problem, offensively, with the team after the trade is the obscene amount of turnovers followed by people shooting half their normal shooting percentage on uncontested shots. They are generating lots of open looks, but have been unable to convert at anything approaching an acceptable level.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 01:54

R.D. Mangles: Jan 10, 2004

NBA analysts give me some diagnostics on how the rose-noah pairing is faring this season...seriously, how's it goink?

# ? Feb 28, 2017 02:01

EvanTH: Apr 24, 2004; i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

dokmo posted:

I believe the data from those shot charts are manually imputed by courtside observers, the quality of whom vary wildly.

This post just made me do a later-that-day double-take. You'd think they'd use all their special cameras to record that sorta thing by now.

Just minding my business and then I'm all wait a second that post I read hours ago is that true??

EvanTH fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Feb 28, 2017

# ? Feb 28, 2017 02:02

Lockback: Sep 3, 2006; All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Doltos posted:

That's what I'm saying!! Everyone keeps saying the team needs time to gel but Gentry really hasn't done a single drat thing besides clear out iso's to Davis and Cousins. You'd think a NBA quality coach would call a cut or a hand off once in a while.

Kibner posted:

While I'm ranting, the current biggest problem, offensively, with the team after the trade is the obscene amount of turnovers followed by people shooting half their normal shooting percentage on uncontested shots. They are generating lots of open looks, but have been unable to convert at anything approaching an acceptable level.

Both these things are a symptom of a team that will need time. I think the thought they were going to rip off a 17-10 run or whatever was unrealistic. It's really, really hard to install a new NBA offense in late Feb/March

# ? Feb 28, 2017 02:15

Vanilla Mint Ice: Jul 17, 2007; A raccoon is not finished when he is defeated. He is finished when he quits.

R.D. Mangles posted:

NBA analysts give me some diagnostics on how the rose-noah pairing is faring this season...seriously, how's it goink?

# ? Feb 28, 2017 02:20

AggressivelyStupid: Jan 9, 2012

https://twitter.com/NBAonTNT/status/836395601528905728

# ? Feb 28, 2017 03:07

xbilkis: Apr 11, 2005; god qb
me
jay hova

Players Only seems to be an exercise in showing why professional broadcasters are important

# ? Feb 28, 2017 03:12

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Yeah I thought I would like it but it's almost unwatchable.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 03:18

Constellation I: Apr 3, 2005; I'm a sucker, a little fucker.

I still can't believe the Raptors beat the Knicks.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 04:13

Spoeank: Jul 16, 2003; That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it

https://twitter.com/AnnaHorford/status/836411769241366528

# ? Feb 28, 2017 04:28

chunkles: Aug 14, 2005; i am completely immersed in darkness
as i turn my body away from the sun

Spoeank posted:

https://twitter.com/AnnaHorford/status/836411769241366528

# ? Feb 28, 2017 04:29

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# ? May 29, 2024 06:22

BWV: Feb 24, 2005

Dwayne Casey is a true pioneer, utilizing the first small ball line up with no shooters. Today he played Wright-Van Vleet-Carroll-Powel-Ibaka.

(ok so Ibaka is a pretty good shooter but still)

# ? Feb 28, 2017 04:57

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