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Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

SpaceGoatFarts posted:

That's fake news you are doing here. It's not what this article says at all.

"Almost half—49 percent—of Americans say they think the killings of black men by police are part of a pattern, while 39 percent think they're isolated."

Fake news being "things you don't want to believe"

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King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
I know all the biggest facts, the best history.

rezatahs
Jun 9, 2001

by Smythe
how hosed is trump today?

crime weed
Nov 9, 2009

SpaceGoatFarts posted:

That's fake news you are doing here. It's not what this article says at all.
from the article

quote:

49 percent—of Americans say they think the killings of black men by police are part of a pattern
ah yes, this is the part where they ask the question "do police kill african-americans at a much higher rate than they kill whites?"

(the entire article is based on the question "is it part of a pattern")

rezatahs
Jun 9, 2001

by Smythe
still president?!? heh, dude is hosed

SpaceGoatFarts
Jan 5, 2010

sic transit gloria mundi


Nap Ghost

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

"Almost half—49 percent—of Americans say they think the killings of black men by police are part of a pattern, while 39 percent think they're isolated."

Fake news being "things you don't want to believe"

"Part of a pattern" doesn't mean that they believe it's happening at a higher rate.

It means they believe there's a correlation between the different occurrence. Like for example it maybe involved mainly cops who were biased into thinking all black are dangerous.


I'm sorry I have to discover this way that you aren't actually as cultured as you thought.

Jukebox Hero
Dec 27, 2007
stars in his eyes

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

I live in one of the biggest cities in the US. My brother voted for Hillary, all my friends are liberals. And the fact of the matter is that I know more than they do. More facts, more history.

I'm just putting this here so everybody remembers that SPH knows everything about anything and debating him is folly.

(Because he doesn't argue with real facts, and just declares victory.)

E: JUST LIKE A LIBERAL

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

SpaceGoatFarts posted:

"Part of a pattern" doesn't mean that they believe it's happening at a higher rate.

It means they believe there's a correlation between the different occurrence. Like for example it maybe involved mainly cops who were biased into thinking all black are dangerous.


I'm sorry I have to discover this way that you aren't actually as cultured as you thought.

You're splitting semantic hairs in order to maintain a tenuous position. Would there be the same answer to "Is there a pattern to whites being killed by police?" The questions subtext is "are the police targeting blacks, are blacks being killed en masse by police"

Jukebox Hero
Dec 27, 2007
stars in his eyes

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

You're splitting semantic hairs in order to maintain a tenuous position.

But that is your liberal fake news technique, dude. You're the guy who just changed the subject because he didn't have an answer.

Conservatives: Always accusing you of what they themselves are doing.

And also yes, black males are targetted over others because suspicion is a natural response to 'the other' but unlike real humans, your average racist cop doesn't have the ability to ignore that programmed response and behave rationally. So they are more suspicious of other skin tones, such as black.

Now discard the argument on a whim and move the goalpost

And also say something about liberal tears I need my fuckin fix I'm jonesing hard, gently caress man ill suck your dick come on

Jukebox Hero fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Feb 28, 2017

SpaceGoatFarts
Jan 5, 2010

sic transit gloria mundi


Nap Ghost

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

You're splitting semantic hairs in order to maintain a tenuous position. Would there be the same answer to "Is there a pattern to whites being killed by police?" The questions subtext is "are the police targeting blacks, are blacks being killed en masse by police"

I know it's difficult to accept being wrong, and that your brain will try at all costs to shield you from this cruel revelation, but get this:

"There is a pattern" =/= "It's happening at a higher rate"

crime weed
Nov 9, 2009

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

You're splitting semantic hairs in order to maintain a tenuous position. Would there be the same answer to "Is there a pattern to whites being killed by police?" The questions subtext is "are the police targeting blacks, are blacks being killed en masse by police"

reality posted:

part of a pattern
spunky your brain is a little broken there's nothing more i can do for you

good luck friend

Jukebox Hero
Dec 27, 2007
stars in his eyes

Kjoery posted:

spunky your brain is a little broken there's nothing more i can do for you

good luck friend

Smartest person in the thread goes to...

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot
I'm very sorry that with 30 seconds of google searching I can't find an exact statistic on an exact sentence.

I know you guys think you really got me here, but you didn't. You're bringing up stuff like "the earth revolving around the sun" out of nowhere, and then get me on some tiny technicality thinking that you stumped me.

Fact of the matter is, what is this "Normal person" thing

Jukebox Hero
Dec 27, 2007
stars in his eyes

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

I'm very sorry that with 30 seconds of google searching I can't find an exact statistic on an exact sentence.

I know you guys think you really got me here, but you didn't. You're bringing up stuff like "the earth revolving around the sun" out of nowhere, and then get me on some tiny technicality thinking that you stumped me.

Fact of the matter is, what is this "Normal person" thing

Okay so you admit you didn't do your research and didn't read your own example

It's okay mr president you're safe here

again normal is "I do not want to hurt anyone for no reason today."

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.
It's dumb to say all conservatives are bad.

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

Jukebox Hero posted:

again normal is "I do not want to hurt anyone for no reason today."

Who is saying this lmao... you live in a fantasy world

Jukebox Hero
Dec 27, 2007
stars in his eyes

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

Who is saying this lmao... you live in a fantasy world

...I think that proves my point rather succintly. Thank you.

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.
Those drat conservatives, always strutting about looking to do some harm

crime weed
Nov 9, 2009

Toadvine posted:

It's dumb to say all conservatives are bad.
im glad we can find common ground

Jukebox Hero posted:

Smartest person in the thread goes to...
currently posting in my comfy three wolf moon t, unshowered, eating a hummous salad wrap while posting in hellthread in response to internet forums poster spunky psycho ho

the winner is pretty self evident, i think

Jukebox Hero
Dec 27, 2007
stars in his eyes

Kjoery posted:

currently posting in my comfy three wolf moon t, unshowered, eating a hummous salad wrap while posting in hellthread in response to internet forums poster spunky psycho ho

the winner is pretty self evident, i think

Hey, don't doxx me

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

Kjoery posted:

im glad we can find common ground

currently posting in my comfy three wolf moon t, unshowered, eating a hummous salad wrap while posting in hellthread in response to internet forums poster spunky psycho ho

the winner is pretty self evident, i think

Why was a foreigner like yourself meddling in our elections anyway

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.

Kjoery posted:

im glad we can find common ground

We probably have a lot of common ground politically

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot
I hope you didn't get paid or didn't make any decisions

Can I volunteer for a campaign committee if I am not a U.S. citizen?
Even though a foreign national cannot make campaign contributions or expenditures (including advances of personal funds), he or she can serve as an uncompensated volunteer for a campaign or political party. However, the individual may not serve in a decision-making capacity within the committee. For example, a foreign national is allowed to attend campaign strategy meetings and events, but may not be involved in the management of the committee. AOs 2007-22 [PDF], 2004-26 [PDF] and 1987-25 [PDF].

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.
Conservatives are really good about getting on board with the common goal of "$$$!!!" Even if some of their beliefs don't perfectly line up they still fall in line behind that overarching cause.

Liberals could stand to learn several things from their opponents across the aisle.

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
he actually said it, the absolute madman!


https://origin-nyi.thehill.com/homenews/news/george-bush-breaks-silence-donald-trump-racism

George W. Bush: 'I don’t like the racism’

quote:

“Yes, I don’t like the racism and I don’t like the name-calling and I don’t like people feeling alienated,”



We should have voted Jeb

crime weed
Nov 9, 2009
i love how the ol' george "the fish and the people can cooexist" bush is beginning to look reasonable in comparison. the normalization is working, lol

also note that campaigns everywhere since the beginning of time pulled electioneering talent from other counties, its nothing unusual.

Toadvine posted:

We probably have a lot of common ground politically
lets make out

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
Ah, good old George W., the Karl Pilkington of politics.

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

Kjoery posted:

electioneering talent

Talent huh. You weren't allowed legally to do anything but take notes and keep your yap closed.

You're a busy body that thinks he's doing the lord's work and preaching the gospel of socialism to dumb Americans, like you're civilizing us.

Macrowave Oven
Nov 20, 2008

Guitar, bass, drums, keyboards, clavinet, piano, keytar, lap steel guitar, slide bass guitar, mandolin, violin, and FRESH POTS.
...said the guy who has 8 pages of posts in an 86 page thread.

Go back to work hero.

Jukebox Hero
Dec 27, 2007
stars in his eyes

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

And the fact of the matter is that I know more than they do. More facts, more history.

Kjoery dude give up his history is just too bigly for you, theres still time

He doesn't need facts, he has poo poo he just made up or didn't read

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

SpaceGoatFarts posted:

I know it's difficult to accept being wrong, and that your brain will try at all costs to shield you from this cruel revelation, but get this:

"There is a pattern" =/= "It's happening at a higher rate"

Lol you're truly willing to bend over backwards for the sake of winning that argument aren't u

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

Jukebox Hero posted:

Kjoery dude give up his history is just too bigly for you, theres still time

He doesn't need facts, he has poo poo he just made up or didn't read

You think America is divided into "normal people" and "people that want to hurt people for no reason"

Jukebox Hero
Dec 27, 2007
stars in his eyes
Stating basic, simple things is now trying too hard, got it

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot
I've just never heard something get put so inanely, like a child might say it. It's a pre-teen conception of reality "good, normal people" and the "evil, bad people" and the all have the same political party lol

Jukebox Hero
Dec 27, 2007
stars in his eyes

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

You think America is divided into "normal people" and "people that want to hurt people for no reason"

Name one conservative belief that doesn't amount to "people shouldn't have so much freedom" or "poor = bad" or "jesus should be president"

Since, y'know, you have all them bigly history facts to lay on me.

Macrowave Oven
Nov 20, 2008

Guitar, bass, drums, keyboards, clavinet, piano, keytar, lap steel guitar, slide bass guitar, mandolin, violin, and FRESH POTS.

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

You think America is divided into "normal people" and "people that want to hurt people for no reason"

Yeah, like pseudo intellectual college types and hardworking managers?

crime weed
Nov 9, 2009

Jukebox Hero posted:

Kjoery dude give up his history is just too bigly for you, theres still time

He doesn't need facts, he has poo poo he just made up or didn't read
dear jukebox hero,

i love bjs just as much as the next guy, but lets take it to a more private venue

people are watching

(maybe thats your thing, but still these people dont want to see two unkempt nerds jacking each other off)

appreciate ya,
a poster with a terrible username

ps the salad wrap was delicious

Jukebox Hero
Dec 27, 2007
stars in his eyes
I am actually having hate sex with my sempai spunky space ho sorry you got mixed up in this I never meant to hurt you

SpaceGoatFarts
Jan 5, 2010

sic transit gloria mundi


Nap Ghost

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

I'm very sorry that with 30 seconds of google searching I can't find an exact statistic on an exact sentence.

I know you guys think you really got me here, but you didn't. You're bringing up stuff like "the earth revolving around the sun" out of nowhere, and then get me on some tiny technicality thinking that you stumped me.

Fact of the matter is, what is this "Normal person" thing

The point is this; you seem to base your posts in this thread on an awful lot of assumptions and not facts. Just like people who believe the sun orbits the earth, you saying "I bet a huge percentage of people believe that the police kill african-americans at a much higher rate" won't magically bend reality to your beliefs.

That's only wishful thinking. And if you think there should exist proofs of your beliefs without you having to actually find them, then that becomes delusion.


Humans make assumptions all the time, but when confronted with contradicting facts, "normal people" accept they might have been wrong, regardless of how uncomfortable it is.


People like Trump and his die-hard fans who, in the face of contradicting info, keep claiming their view of reality is the correct one and everyone else is lying and conspiring to bring them down, are deluded. They are not normal. Something is broken inside of their mind.

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Jukebox Hero
Dec 27, 2007
stars in his eyes
"Everyone says I'm wrong, I must be the only sane man on earth"

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