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Desuwa posted:My 252U is now beating my IS-3 for average damage (but not winrate, loving teams), and I played my IS-3 when I was at my best and I'm playing the 252U after a solid two and a half years of only playing every couple of months. Of course my win rate is also like 38% because as you said, drat near every team I get put on in it are terrible, plus it acts as a goddamned magnet for everyone on the other team to kill as soon as you get spotted. Except for a game where the pubbies were actually smart as hell and I used the Defender as the ultimate decoy to keep the enemy occupied trying to kill me while they capped http://wotreplays.com/site/3384082#live_oaks-muheras-object_252u_defender I wasn't paying tons of attention to the cap info because I was busy trying to murder their remaining players but I knew I was screwed at the end when I bounced a shot like an idiot with low HP. Then suddenly everything froze and I realized my teammates capped while I was in the shootout and I was fuckin amazed.
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Steelion posted:To be fair, saying the 252's lower plate is weak, while technically true, is a bit misleading, since it's still 20-50mm thicker than the lower plate of any other tier 8 HT except the M4 49. Not saying it's weak like it's weaker than anything else. But on that particular tank it is one of the tank's weak spots and certainly is not idiot proof as this game repeatedly demonstrates Got to play a quick tier 4-7 encounter on Erlenberg. My team came from the south and split to go east and west. Their team sent all the heavies down the middle to cap. Me playing arty I of course was bombing the circle for a few till it was evident my team was more focused on taking on the couple mediums and TDs that went to the flanks, and slowly melting none the less. So I drove forward till I could see the base and started shotgunning the circle while some idiot on the east hill was spamming "Defend the base!". I got off four rounds before a heavy came looking for me. All in all just over half my team gone to two of theirs and the whole thing taking under five minutes. thank god they capped. It would have been a bloodbath. Got called an idiot for drowning my SU-8 in a match where I got the only 3 kills and was cornered while reloading. Too bad the little rear end in a top hat waited for the last few seconds to bitch. Really says something when arty out damages the whole team Took an unaimed shot at an M4 across the map on Steppes and destroyed the other team's Cromwell parked out in front spotting. Made a speedy escape when the flank collapsed but ended up dying trying to cap while the last heavy and TD ran away to the corner to get destroyed just after me. If they'd stayed we could have won, but eh, it's sorta expected SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 11:25 on Feb 28, 2017 |
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SocketWrench posted:Not saying it's weak like it's weaker than anything else. But on that particular tank it is one of the tank's weak spots and certainly is not idiot proof as this game repeatedly demonstrates I think there are very, very few tanks that are more idiot proof than the 252. Right now the superheavies, especially the Type 4 and 5 where aiming and angling are completely optional and actually detrimental, are the only ones I can think of as more idiot proof. I should have free experienced the Maus before the patch. I'm close to the E-100 and Pz VII but I didn't pay enough attention to realize how dominant the Maus would get. I'd rather play my 252 with regular matchmaking than my IS-6 or KV-5 with preferential matchmaking. The 252 just utterly dominates same tier heavies in a way that the IS-6 can't, and the IS-6 just doesn't have the tools to deal with the new powercreep premiums, or the Lowe. Likewise, in t10 games the 252 is not as helpless as the IS-6 is in games that are heavy on t9s. The Lowe is good too. I'd rather play my Lowe, 252, and Rev than my preferential premiums. Amongst the pref premiums the 112 handles the 252 spam better than the IS-6, at least, since its 250 pen HEAT gives it a fighting chance against the LFP, but there goes your profitability and the 252 will still beat you in a fight firing AP. Plus the Lowe and 252 stand out as the most profitable premiums I have by a substantial margin. Desuwa fucked around with this message at 11:39 on Feb 28, 2017 |
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Feb 28, 2017 11:12
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Desuwa posted:I think there are very, very few tanks that are more idiot proof than the 252. Right now the superheavies, especially the Type 4 and 5 where aiming and angling are completely optional and actually detrimental, are the only ones I can think of as more idiot proof. I should have free experienced the Maus before the patch. I'm close to the E-100 and Pz VII but I didn't pay enough attention to realize how dominant the Maus would get. The Maus is good now? Have had it unlocked forever, but VK4502B supremacy kept me from getting it.
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Cardiac posted:The Maus is good now? It gained side armour, turret armour, gun handling, accuracy, a huge DPM buff, and 200hp. Better players than I am say it's the best heavy tank in the game and I am inclined to agree. If it's not the Maus it's probably the Type 5 firing gold HE, and that gold HE is straight up overpowered and shouldn't be in the game. You should not be able to do 500-600 damage to the front of an E-75 without needing to aim. In this case the premium round is just straight up better than the normal round in every situation and I've only seen one Type 4 or 5 not spamming pure premium HE. The patch buffed a lot of tanks that needed it and some that didn't. The 252U isn't even the half of it, if only because eventually it'll die down and it'll just take the place of the IS-6 in making the t6-9 grind unbearable. The t10 meta has completely shifted towards impenetrable superheavies, premium round usage is at an all time high (and that's not enough for most t8s and even some t9s), E-100's are firing AP, the Warcrime Panther is good, dogs and cats are living together, and the BL-10's APCR round finally has a reason to exist. It's insanity.
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The T-34-85M bundled with 1450 gold is available for 1 day on the EU server for 19.99€, in case anyone playing there wants one. Tested it out and it's definitely a T-34-85 variant, meaning it's brilliant. No special dog buddy like on the Rudy, but the gun handles great, mobility felt way better than expected, and I guess the extra hull armor can help bounce something from lower tiers from time to time. Edit: Just first ten matches, but can already tell the tank is amazing now that they buffed it.  
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Feb 28, 2017 11:48
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I don't care if it's a joke, I will not play in a clan with CUCK anywhere in the name. I'm perfectly fine with PANSY.
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Feb 28, 2017 12:21
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I think we might have different definitions of idiot-proof. those electric socket covers you can get to keep child from sticking his finger in the 110V isn't going to stop that same child from peeing on it.
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Feb 28, 2017 15:19
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yes let it be known that the 252 is highly idiot-resistant, in this the most meaningful of hairsplits. hopefully there will be no further confusion in the matter.
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gently caress i missed a perfect opportunity to call it idiot-retardant
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Feb 28, 2017 15:29
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SocketWrench posted:Got called an idiot for drowning my SU-8 in a match where I got the only 3 kills and was cornered while reloading. Too bad the little rear end in a top hat waited for the last few seconds to bitch. Really says something when arty out damages the whole team You drowned yourself in a match where you got the most kills on your entire team?? 
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KaiserSchnitzel posted:I think we might have different definitions of idiot-proof. At 3:55 in this video: https://youtu.be/ALwB-hQwam8
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Redeye Flight posted:I don't care if it's a joke, I will not play in a clan with CUCK anywhere in the name. I'm perfectly fine with PANSY. I don't have any skin in this particular game but I'm feeling second-hand embarrassment that this is even being considered
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Feb 28, 2017 16:22
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NotWearingPants posted:I was thinking I had actually done a WOT goatse logo at one point, but when I went through the old Pansy thread it was actually representation of a man embracing a cock and balls. 
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smooth jazz posted:Gents I'd like a more useful tank to play T6 strongholds with you guys... Cromwell wolf packs work well not only because they are fast but because they are all the same speed. A group of Cromwells running around a map together, re-positioning as a group, then slamming into a herd of enemies can be a beautiful thing. I don't know how fast the A43 is, but probably not as fast as a Cromwell. The 34-85/Rudy is a great tank too, but if you are on a team with 6 Cromwells you are going to be the fat, slow wolf that arrives to the kill late and doesn't get to eat. The T37 is a tank that works well with Cromwells because it's just about the same speed. I think you should get a Cromwell first, then get other tanks. Usually we let people bring whatever they want, but if we ever want to run Cromwell wolf packs we need people with Cromwells.
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Amazing, but where's the ring?
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BadLlama posted:Amazing, but where's the ring? Look at your hands.
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Are tier 8 dongholds all that common with PANSYs? The tier 6 games last night were fun but my favorite tanks are tier 7-9  Also congratulations to us on losing several 95% games in a row
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Tier 8 requires too many people. Both for you and for others.
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ROFLburger posted:Are tier 8 dongholds all that common with PANSYs? The tier 6 games last night were fun but my favorite tanks are tier 7-9 Perhaps things will change with the new system, but the way it was before, no. Basically, nobody ever did tier 10 strongholds, so the better clans would do tier 8 strongholds, and they would play to win. So we would go in with our varied assortment of tier 8 tanks and yellow, orange and green players and get absolutely demolished by blue players running something like eight IS-3s and two t-54 lightweights. It was possible to find a tier 8 team we could compete with, but it was rare. Also, the wait times were really long. The quickest way to kill a PANSY stronghold detachment was for someone to say "hey, we have enough, let's do tier 8" NotWearingPants fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Feb 28, 2017 |
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ROFLburger posted:Are tier 8 dongholds all that common with PANSYs? The tier 6 games last night were fun but my favorite tanks are tier 7-9 Buy back the T-34-85, train a crew up and have fun in tier 6. Also you could by a Rudy or T-34-85M premium tank whenever they go on sale again. I do hope tier 10's get better and more popular so that we can play tier 8 dongholds. BadLlama fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Feb 28, 2017 |
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ROFLburger posted:Are tier 8 dongholds all that common with PANSYs? The tier 6 games last night were fun but my favorite tanks are tier 7-9 If you guys are like normal clans, your problems are: Everyone has to go in at the same time. You don't want to stop while shooting because your chances of getting tracked / blocking other people go up. Everyone needs to be shooting. The 2nd part is making sure you are focusing targets. You want to all shoot the same target until it is dead and then shoot the next target. Once you master that, you will beat 75% of the pub clans.
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HFX posted:If you guys are like normal clans, your problems are: Everyone has to go in at the same time. You don't want to stop while shooting because your chances of getting tracked / blocking other people go up. Everyone needs to be shooting. Good advice. The 2nd part is something we can work on. The first part, "going in together", probably isn't ever going to happen efficiently because we don't have callers and we let people bring whatever tanks they want and nobody likes telling other people what to do. example: "Ok guys, lets stick together and all sweep up the west side" "I'm going to go over here" "ok" Also one of our regulars is deaf and you can't tell that guy anything. But we can still probably win 60%+ by just trying to focus fire.
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Trying to accept my [PANSY] invite, I keep getting errors in client... and told the clan the disbanded on the website.  Also, going to start out on a Cromwell. Strongholds just encourage that - I got rumbled few days ago by a platoon of Cromwells who just tore our team apart in Random, and it's was super gross. (And made me want one of the zippy buggers.)
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Von Humboldt posted:Trying to accept my [PANSY] invite, I keep getting errors in client... and told the clan the disbanded on the website. Maybe try posting in the recruitment thread: http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/283939-pansy-heer-as-volk/
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 quote:i_know_i_am_hot : oooh hullo germans are gods of tanks
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yeah, your mistake was arguing about WWII tank engineering in twitch chat
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Naw his mistake was watching this horrible game on twitch.
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I like to watch this terrible game on Twitch to try and learn things because I am truly terrible
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ROFLburger posted:I like to watch this terrible game on Twitch to try and learn things because I am truly terrible I can't really relate. Is there a stream where I can better learn to jump off of cliffs onto enemies or turn Assault on to trigger Exia?
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Hellsau posted:I can't really relate. Is there a stream where I can better learn to jump off of cliffs onto enemies or turn Assault on to trigger Exia? Send me goomba stomp replays and i'll analyze and post video's rating the stomp on youtube.* *Too lazy to actually do this.
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I tried to be one of the cool kids and goomba stomp an E75 on overlord but i missed. However I did manage to convince a team of pubbies to not kill the last enemy tank and instead push them into the water on Abbey.
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serious gaylord posted:I tried to be one of the cool kids and goomba stomp an E75 on overlord but i missed. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take  serious gaylord posted:However I did manage to convince a team of pubbies to not kill the last enemy tank and instead push them into the water on Abbey. Send me the replay and I will make a gif/video for everyone to enjoy
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ROFLburger posted:You miss 100% of the shots you don't take I dont keep replays and it was weeks ago I am so sorry everyone i've let you all down.
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Redeye Flight posted:I don't care if it's a joke, I will not play in a clan with CUCK anywhere in the name. I'm perfectly fine with PANSY. hitting too close to home?
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The 34-85m might be better than the Rudy now. I'm not certain how big the mobility differences are but the 85m's front armour is significantly better to the point where it will often bounce AP up to about the 120mm pen range with slight angling. That makes the guns of most t5 mediums and some of the heavies unreliable. If it's available again I might pick one up if it's really cheap. Can always use more Russian medium trainers.
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Desuwa posted:The 34-85m might be better than the Rudy now. I'm not certain how big the mobility differences are but the 85m's front armour is significantly better to the point where it will often bounce AP up to about the 120mm pen range with slight angling. That makes the guns of most t5 mediums and some of the heavies unreliable. Not sure if you're actively participating in the current tankrewards event but it's one of the potential awards at the 45 point level.
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ROFLburger posted:I like to watch this terrible game on Twitch to try and learn things because I am truly terrible spam Chillsau with platoon requests and play with him.
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NotWearingPants posted:spam Chillsau with platoon requests and play with him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laPjgrqUtJI Platoon with me at your peril. I think I am hilarious. Note that my harsh criticism will make you a vastly better player very quickly.
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warcrimes posted:hitting too close to home? I don't want to use or validate in any way any phrasing or other bullshit that's come out of the "alt-right". I especially don't want to cringe at my own clan name every time I log on. If we have to change the clan name and we can get away with 2G1K I'd be fine with that. That's funny.
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