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get that OUT of my face posted:Anti-labor zealot Henry Ford knew that the best way to keep your employees from wanting to organize and form unions was to pay them a wage high enough to buy the very cars that they helped make. What Wal-Mart is doing now is nothing new or benevolent, they just so happen to be better at realizing that fact than other retailers and other large chain stores that make their employees work to the point of misery. Yeah, but its cyclical in nature, so what Henry Ford figured out in the 1920's is a now forward thinking concept. Just like hating Jews, Ford's other ideas are in vogue again. And of course Wal-Mart employs lots of economists so they knew the labor market was tightening and the balance of power was tipping ever so slightly toward employees.
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Remember HMV closing all of their Canadian stores? 70 of those will now be filled by Sunrise records http://globalnews.ca/news/3274299/hmv-locations-to-be-filled-with-sunrise-records/?sf58831898=1 quote:Aside from CDs and DVDs, Sunrise will hedge its bets with board games, themed toys and a wide selection of music, film and TV apparel. So putting $40 vinyl copies of the The Wall in front will somehow move all the Hot Topic poo poo they sell?
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Krispy Kareem posted:Yeah, but its cyclical in nature, so what Henry Ford figured out in the 1920's is a now forward thinking concept. Just like hating Jews, Ford's other ideas are in vogue again. Just another sign that the free market isn't working and we need to prescribe to communism.
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vyst posted:Just another sign that the free market isn't working and we need to prescribe to communism. The people like unironically think that any form of actual communism would really work? Like what possible evidence could give someone that idea?
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bongwizzard posted:The people like unironically think that any form of actual communism would really work? Like what possible evidence could give someone that idea? hey man i like masturbating too but maybe you shouldn't do it so publicly?
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bongwizzard posted:The people like unironically think that any form of actual communism would really work? Like what possible evidence could give someone that idea? I think there were a few in the Venezuela thread until the actual Venezulagoons drove them out.
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bongwizzard posted:The people like unironically think that any form of actual communism would really work? Like what possible evidence could give someone that idea? Well, we all know first hand that the free market literally has never worked
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If we had communism or any sort of socialism, then this thread would cease to exist. But I'm willing to take that risk. No gulags, though. Mass incarceration is bad when anyone does it.
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bongwizzard posted:The people like unironically think that any form of actual communism would really work? Like what possible evidence could give someone that idea?
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You heard it here folks if you read communism is bad it's FAKE NEWS Also I don't think it's bad to pay people a decent wage so that they don't strike about not getting a decent wage but I'm not up on henry ford so 
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Improbable Lobster posted:Well, we all know first hand that the free market literally has never worked Works for me. On that drawing of the different layers of capitalism, I'm somewhere in the lower middle, like some tasty goodness marbled into the cake of progress.  Hmmmm...marbled.
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bongwizzard posted:The people like unironically think that any form of actual communism would really work? Like what possible evidence could give someone that idea? If we keep doing what we're doing now it will for sure start working one day and everyone will be happy, housed, clothed and well fed. For sure. One day.
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Ok, so noting but a lot of hope, got it. Edit: to be a little less snarky, obviously there's plenty of evidence of capitalism doesn't work out super well for a lot of people, but no one has yet offered any evidence that communism would actually work. bongwizzard has a new favorite as of 21:29 on Feb 28, 2017 |
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bongwizzard posted:Ok, so noting but a lot of hope, got it. cuba vietnam china obvi none are pure communism, they're basically socialist countries that pay lip service to communist ideals, but literally no country on earth is pure capitalism either now can you please stop sucking your own dick so loudly
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OMGVBFLOL posted:cuba Hah, that's the best you come up with? Think I'll stick with capitalism, thanks.
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bongwizzard posted:Hah, that's the best you come up with? Think I'll stick with capitalism, thanks. Before the slave trade was banned it was the norm and you would be considered a "bleeding heart" for opposing it. Whenever people go "that's just the way things are!" I can't help but think "why aren't you questioning it then?"
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Josef bugman posted:Before the slave trade was banned it was the norm and you would be considered a "bleeding heart" for opposing it. Whenever people go "that's just the way things are!" I can't help but think "why aren't you questioning it then?" Just because capitalism is bad, doesn't necessarily mean that communism is good. I was asking for some evidence that communism was a workable way to move forward, which no one has this given. Unless one really considers China a model for the rest of the world
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get that OUT of my face posted:If we had communism or any sort of socialism, then this thread would cease to exist. But I'm willing to take that risk. No gulags, though. Mass incarceration is bad when anyone does it. I'm cool with throwing all congressional Republicans in jail And some congressional democrats too tbf
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bongwizzard posted:Just because capitalism is bad, doesn't necessarily mean that communism is good. I was asking for some evidence that communism was a workable way to move forward, which no one has this given. Unless one really considers China a model for the rest of the world
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zh1 posted:may i present to you the entirety of recorded history Wait how exactly does that show the Communism is a workable political/economic system?
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bongwizzard posted:Hah, that's the best you come up with? Think I'll stick with capitalism, thanks. http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/World_Autofellatio_Championship
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So we have a established than that there is actually no evidence that Communism is a workable system, but people like it because it sounds really good, correct?
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i should stop letting captain suckshisdick ruin the thread e: bongwizzard posted:So we have a established than that there is actually no evidence that Communism is a workable system, but people like it because it sounds really good, correct? no
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OMGVBFLOL posted:i should stop letting captain suckshisdick ruin the thread Then please my dude post something other than your obsession with self pleasure.
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Communism is actually bad because it involves humans being good to each other. But if we could get dogunism then we'd really be on to something.
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"If you're not a communist when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a communist by the time you're 35, you have no brain."
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Bonzo posted:
People buy stupid crap all the time so... why not
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Fast Luck posted:"If you're not a communist when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a communist by the time you're 35, you have no brain." Ghandi?
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Solice Kirsk posted:Ghandi? That sounds like something an American would say, because we are dumb selfish people and are proud of it.
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for real though http://readsettlers.org/index.html
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I think the better question is "at what scales do different forms of communism thrive or fail?" Anarcho-communism is fine with a dozen people but not with a large city.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Ghandi? actually, that man's name was zh1 posted:jesus
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"Throw all my political opponents in prison" - a reasonable opinion itt, presumably from someone who thinks politics is a logic puzzle. Or, who am I kidding, a video game.
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Strategic Tea posted:"Throw all my political opponents in prison" - a reasonable opinion itt, presumably from someone who thinks politics is a logic puzzle. would you rather we kill them, as would be justified?
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RandomPauI posted:I think the better question is "at what scales do different forms of communism thrive or fail?" Anarcho-communism is fine with a dozen people but not with a large city. I've always pictured it as a worldwide federation of small city-states.
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Wait, hold the loving phone; there are still people in 2017 advocating communism?OMGVBFLOL posted:cuba Like, this has to be a joke, right? You have to know that Vietnam and China are about as communist as France, just with fewer worker protections. They are one-party authoritarian states with the Communist Party in charge but that's just a name. Is this gaslighting?
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Economic philosophies that are circling the drain: 
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Moon Slayer posted:Wait, hold the loving phone; there are still people in 2017 advocating communism? Communism is probably the most effective system out there, the problem has a,ways been getting there. It has about the same success rate as democracy, depending on what rather arbitrary values you use to determine success.
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