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Iceland is the Japan of Northern Europe. They have weird food, insular culture, and everyone totally wants to learn their language they just have too much going on right now.
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Clever refugees absolutely RUINED financial system of failing @iceland. Very bad!
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Mar 1, 2017 12:16
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I take it back iceland sucks too,
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Mar 1, 2017 12:17
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His Divine Shadow posted:Freudian slip?
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Mar 1, 2017 12:27
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All I know about Iceland is that a good podcast will do a live recording there and I'd go if I had the money. Also, some interesting restaurants.
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Mar 1, 2017 12:28
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as a child it really hosed me up that Yoshi had his own iceland, and that nintendo somehow missunderstood what iceland was all about.
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Mar 1, 2017 13:15
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Well, that's not emotionally manipulative at all:
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Mar 1, 2017 15:36
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evilmiera posted:Kadern for rörlig tvättanstallt will save us! Would you want to be liberated by someone with stinking underpants?
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Mar 1, 2017 19:11
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https://twitter.com/sweden/status/836465777859518464
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Mar 1, 2017 21:23
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it's funny because these sardonic remarks still won't make our problem areas any less controlled by criminals people joke about mad max but where is the law and order
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Mar 1, 2017 22:41
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I think the joke flew over your head.
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Mar 2, 2017 06:23
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I love the smell of napalm in the förort.
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Mar 2, 2017 06:32
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Out of curiosity, have the Police seen a rise in funding to cope with the intake of refugees? I have only been here a year and only recently learned about a bizarre ceremony known as 'the budget walk.'
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Mar 2, 2017 07:17
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Dirk Pitt posted:Out of curiosity, have the Police seen a rise in funding to cope with the intake of refugees? I have only been here a year and only recently learned about a bizarre ceremony known as 'the budget walk.' Police funding has increased by roughly 2 billion SEK during the last five years but I don't know if I would attribute that to refugees. The only real extension of their responsibilities was in 2015 with the enactment of the border controls. All of the real costs of refugee reception fall under Migrationsverket, the administrative courts and the municipal budgets. 
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Heard sweden reintroduced conscription again. Guess that whole professional army stuff wasn't working out: https://svenska.yle.fi/artikel/2017/03/02/sverige-aterinfor-varnplikten
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Mar 2, 2017 08:23
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Gender neutral conscription is Cool and Good.
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so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
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His Divine Shadow posted:Heard sweden reintroduced conscription again. Guess that whole professional army stuff wasn't working out: It was working unimaginably bad. A combination of the military being way too picky and short-sighted (For example, denying people because they didn't want to do foreign service one year and being short on reservists while pulling out of Afghanistan the next) and people joining GMU during the unemployment years with no intent to actually enter into the military once GMU was over.
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Mar 2, 2017 08:56
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MiddleOne posted:It was working unimaginably bad. A combination of the military being way too picky and short-sighted (For example, denying people because they didn't want to do foreign service one year and being short on reservists while pulling out of Afghanistan the next) and people joining GMU during the unemployment years with no intent to actually enter into the military once GMU was over. Everything I have read shows that the military are still treating their staff like conscription was still a thing. For someone who have done conscription, the signs are pretty clear on that and it is not a good thing. Doing one year of military service is kinda OK just after graduation if you have the interest for it, but otherwise gently caress that. For a professional military service to work, they need to start paying decent wages (even officers are underpaid if they don't do foreign service), have non-officer career paths and make it possible for their staff to gain experience that is useful outside of the military, classic example is truck driving licence. In other words, they need to treat it as an actual job instead of service to your country. It is the same bullshit as you see within academia, where it is unspokenly assumed that you should be grateful to be there and the people who are in still the organisation have either no non-military skills or are unsuitable to work in civilian life. When I did my conscription the large cuts happened and the good officers with telecommunication skills said "gently caress it" and went to Erikson without hesitation.
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http://www.nettavisen.no/nyheter/innenriks/en-av-seks-i-norge-har-innvandrerbakgrunn/3423318592.html "Norge fikk 26.400 flere innvandrere i 2016. Folk fra Afrika og Asia sto for 93 prosent av veksten. Til sammen har 16,8 prosent i Norge innvandrerbakgrunn i dag." Hopefully they will leave when the welfare system breaks down and the only thing they get is crappy weather and a long winter. I wonder if we also will end up with something like the Swedish Democrats?
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Peace is good. Wealth is good. Welfare isn't the only thing that's keeping people from emigrating from this country. Norway isn't going to become shittier than Pakistan, so better start getting used to brown people.
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Mar 2, 2017 09:59
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Grevling posted:Peace is good. Wealth is good. Welfare isn't the only thing that's keeping people from emigrating from this country. Norway isn't going to become shittier than Pakistan, so better start getting used to brown people. I don't care about skin-color. I care about all the other stuff. We cannot continue to import NAV-clients. We do not have problems on a Swedish level but we will have that in the future. The golden oil age is gone forever and we will no longer afford to bribe these people with welfare cash.
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Mar 2, 2017 11:04
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OR, get this, or it's entirely possible that a good percentage of the people who wish to take up residency there want to be employed and aren't all uniformly characterized as welfare kings and queens.
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Heinz Hynkel posted:http://www.nettavisen.no/nyheter/innenriks/en-av-seks-i-norge-har-innvandrerbakgrunn/3423318592.html 16.8% is not that far off from the 22% of Sweden. Different composition I would guess in education though (considering most of my course mates are among your immigrants in the oil industry and still working there) Also, considering people on welfare in Nordic countries are richer than a majority of the worlds population, the welfare system has to be basically abolished for that to happen. Finally, I thought you already had FrP as your populist party?
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Mar 2, 2017 11:17
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These people who have traveled across half the world in hazardous conditions are probably very lazy
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Neeksy posted:OR, get this, or it's entirely possible that a good percentage of the people who wish to take up residency there want to be employed and aren't all uniformly characterized as welfare kings and queens. You need open jobs for that. We simply cannot employ more people in the public sector and we don't have the private industry that Sweden has. So where are these magic jobs?
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Neeksy posted:OR, get this, or it's entirely possible that a good percentage of the people who wish to take up residency there want to be employed and aren't all uniformly characterized as welfare kings and queens. Surely you jest? How am I supposed to sleep at night if I can't characterize them as sub-humans undeserving of my help? Heinz Hynkel posted:You need open jobs for that. We simply cannot employ more people in the public sector and we don't have the private industry that Sweden has. So where are these magic jobs? Your economy is going to keep being a resource cursed joke no matter how many refugees you turn away. You know we didn't have oil so we actually had to try at this whole modern economy thing.
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Cardiac posted:Finally, I thought you already had FrP as your populist party? Most of the parties in Norway are populist parties. FrP has been rather moderate after they got into power. I am sure lots of people are dissatisfied with them and will not vote for them again. I got the feeling that Senterpartiet will be the new FrP. Will probably vote for them myself. They are so boring and reactionary but all the other parties are vile scum so there is not much choice. We also got some people trying to start up some super liberalistic party but they seems totally insane and evil.
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The goal of having full employment for the vast majority of the population will inevitably become less and less feasible as automation goes on, which is why
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Heinz Hynkel posted:
Are you thinking of Liberalistene or the new Trump inspired one, because I know somebody who's apparently involved with the former
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ThaumPenguin posted:The goal of having full employment for the vast majority of the population will inevitably become less and less feasible as automation goes on, which is why Yes. The future looks dark. The only solution may be borgerlønn (not sure what that is in English) but I cannot understand how that can work. You need to generate cash before you use it. Full communism sounds painful.
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Heinz Hynkel posted:I got the feeling that Senterpartiet will be the new FrP. Will probably vote for them myself. They are so boring and reactionary but all the other parties are vile scum so there is not much choice. The party is known in Norway for their support of high toll tariffs on foreign cheese and meat, called "toll protection", and their proposal to shoot all wolves in Norway
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Heinz Hynkel posted:Yes. The future looks dark. The only solution may be borgerlønn (not sure what that is in English) but I cannot understand how that can work. You need to generate cash before you use it. Borgerlønn would be UBI, ie Universal Basic Income. Full Stalinism would be pretty terrible yeah, I'm more interested in the libertarian socialist/anarcho-communist approaches myself. And yeah I realise how contradictory both those terms may sound, they've been around for a long time.
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ThaumPenguin posted:Are you thinking of Liberalistene or the new Trump inspired one, because I know somebody who's apparently involved with the former http://www.nettavisen.no/politikk/liberalistene-vil-fjerne-velferdsstaten-avvikle-gratis-skole-og-apne-for-fri-innvandring/3423292169.html I would not turn my back to anyone involved in that.
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Blackluck posted:their proposal to shoot all wolves in Norway I don't support that. Even if they really are Russian wolves. But nobody agrees with all the policies a party got. I actually think its worse what they do against the wolverines.
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Mar 2, 2017 11:46
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Please do not for peole who support lovely hybrid solutions for public procurement. https://www.svd.se/kontroversiell-nks-modell-kan-anvandas-for-motorvagar/om/sverige
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Heinz Hynkel posted:I don't support that. Even if they really are Russian wolves. But nobody agrees with all the policies a party got. I actually think its worse what they do against the wolverines. I'm not going to ask what they do against the wolverines, I'm depressed* enough as it is  (I'm an American* with interest in European politics.)
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Heinz Hynkel posted:http://www.nettavisen.no/politikk/liberalistene-vil-fjerne-velferdsstaten-avvikle-gratis-skole-og-apne-for-fri-innvandring/3423292169.html Christ. Rich cyberpunk LARPers are just the worst
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Heinz Hynkel posted:You need open jobs for that. We simply cannot employ more people in the public sector and we don't have the private industry that Sweden has. So where are these magic jobs? Now here's a free tip for you, the problem here isn't immigrants, it's lovely-rear end neoliberal governments who keep pushing an utterly failed economic model because this benefits their owners.
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Blackluck posted:I'm not going to ask what they do against the wolverines, I'm depressed* enough as it is They track down the dens, drags out the cubs and seal-club them. Both farmers and the Sami HATE the natural predators. It almost get comical how they inflate the number of sheep and deer that get killed. This monster was supposed to kill 18844 deer in one year. Northern Norway must have been a horrid slaughter field. 
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Cerebral Bore posted:Now here's a free tip for you, the problem here isn't immigrants, it's lovely-rear end neoliberal governments who keep pushing an utterly failed economic model because this benefits their owners. Agreed completely. I'd add something about how the inherent structure of capitalism made this practically inevitable, but I'm too much of a scrub ThaumPenguin fucked around with this message at 12:16 on Mar 2, 2017 |
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