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Lozareth posted:pwturty is a colossal idiot with zero decent ttk's. Well, his Iron Fist was the best (until earlier today [it abused a glitch that the new king doesn't lol]). Somebody just posted a 3:34 on Cap though, so you're certainly right. That's terrible, but not so bad that even middle tier characters could beat the dummy three times before his first.
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# ? May 21, 2024 15:05 |
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Daredevil, Hulk, Moonknight and Thing are all good punchers.
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widespread posted:I keep seeing this thread pop up enough times to finally give it a serious, non-"gently caress I fatfingered the wrong thread again lemme just mark it as unread" lookthrough. Use someone else to punch dudes in the face. Juggernaut is all about elbow dropping people for huge damage.
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 09:51 |
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Use someone else to punch dudes in the face. Juggernaut is all about elbow dropping people for huge damage. Oh. Okay. To be honest, Juggernaut doing elbow drops on people might do in a pinch. But I assume there's other characters for grapplefuck.
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 09:54 |
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widespread posted:But I assume there's other characters for grapplefuck. You assume incorrectly. Nobody has any sort of grappling powers. Ghostlight is lying to you when he suggests Daredevil is good right now though, and even when he was it was more about smashing with clubs than punching. Fortunately, Iron Fist is a good puncher (it's sort of in his name) and is easily the best around. Hulk can also rip a car in half and wear the bits as boxing gloves. Just saying.
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 10:19 |
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If you want something as close to grappling as you're going to get, She-Hulk Luchadors it up with some athletic leg and elbow drops. Also Juggernaut makes a perfectly viable and powerful looking punch-man. Kokoro Wish fucked around with this message at 10:54 on Mar 1, 2017 |
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MMAgCh posted:Wolverine VUs! DoFP received one as well but the guy who took those shots didn't own it. Wow I actually own that chase costume. Almost making me want to come back just to fap
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 14:25 |
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brown pants wolverine's sleeveline is totally wrong wtf lovin that snakeskin duster tho, very sailor ripley
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 14:31 |
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MMAgCh posted:Wolverine VUs! DoFP received one as well but the guy who took those shots didn't own it. Looks good, but he's a tad young looking for that grey hair, plus a little more surl/scowl wouldn't go amiss. At least a little more downturn to that mouth. Kokoro Wish fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Mar 1, 2017 |
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Kokoro Wish posted:
Can't quite figure out what you're talking about. Care to highlight the picture with some red circles?
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 16:21 |
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Gibbering Madness posted:Can't quite figure out what you're talking about. Care to highlight the picture with some red circles?
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 16:24 |
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Lozareth posted:pwturty is a colossal idiot with zero decent ttk's. Is that the guy who claims he was some sorta wow developer? He made a thread a few days ago assigning universal DPS points for every artifact, tried to color code them, didn't put in a color code key, and even the pubbies managed to call him out on it since the values for those sorta things change from hero to hero. Grinning Goblin fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Mar 1, 2017 |
# ? Mar 1, 2017 16:28 |
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does that have the wrong shade of orange too
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 16:32 |
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I'm bishounen gray-templed Wolverine
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 16:38 |
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Should I buy Lady Wolferine on BOGO for :5bux: or should I wait to see if they give her away for free with the movie?
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 17:00 |
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Toshimo posted:Should I buy Lady Wolferine on BOGO for :5bux: or should I wait to see if they give her away for free with the movie? No
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 17:01 |
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Lozareth posted:pwturty is a colossal idiot with zero decent ttk's. Holy poo poo yes he is. Loved it when Cpu let him have it in the ttk thread. Still convinced Cpu is a LukeFonFabre forum alt.
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 18:22 |
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tbf "literally just wolverine with grey temples" is about how he looked in the comics
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 18:25 |
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Use someone else to punch dudes in the face. Juggernaut is all about elbow dropping people for huge damage. *note that damage is decreasing with every patch
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 18:29 |
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Toshimo posted:Should I buy Lady Wolferine on BOGO for :5bux: or should I wait to see if they give her away for free with the movie? both a full movement build or grievous wounds works, i prefer grievous wounds
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 18:36 |
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 18:47 |
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cl_gibcount 9999 posted:*note that damage is decreasing with every patch
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 19:01 |
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Ok, so I'm trying to parse all the new summoner changes and this is what I come up with. Maybe Jus/Loz/gib can correct me if I'm off:
Basically, the only ones that seem good are maybe Spear and Octobots (Pelt/Cerebra also?)? Since summons now inherit Attribute/Typed DR/Crit/Brut, it seems like regular items are just straight better in almost all circumstances?
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 19:09 |
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AzraelNewtype posted:You assume incorrectly. Nobody has any sort of grappling powers. Is there a new complete list of heroes with access to the Mystical Car Dimension?
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 19:13 |
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Toshimo posted:
Legacy of Kraven doesn't have any phys-only damage stats on it. That said, SHIELD Systems Recon Belt is basically the same item but better (and not very good on anyone besides Taskmaster even then). Cease to Hope fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Mar 1, 2017 |
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Yeah, I misread Phys Def as Phys DR. Welp. Time to delete so many belts.
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 19:29 |
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It seems like the main gearing concern for summoners is now just avoiding melee/ranged DR, which (unless I'm mistaken) doesn't transfer to pets the way phys/NRG/mental DR does.
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 19:36 |
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Ape Spear is actually pretty good even on Loki--500 crit, 1000 crit damage, 700 dr vs unaware, 7 mainstat is great even before the summon stats. It's worse than a fraglite, but an option if you don't wanna blow the resources crafting one. Octobot has enough stats to be worthwhile. Even the top Psylocke time currently is using one and she's not exactly full summoner. Again, loses out to something raid craftable like a Jinn on energy heroes.
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 19:38 |
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So, yeah:
Sound right?
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 19:41 |
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That sounds right. Add that the only "summoner" artifact worth keeping is Ultron's Encephalo-Balls and even that is usually outclassed
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 19:48 |
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Chernobyl Peace Prize posted:Nothing can stop the Juggernaut, in Gaz terms, equals "Juggernaut can be slowed way, way down. And why that's a good thing." Nothing can stop the Glaciernaut
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 20:03 |
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Even if Trask Commander were ever useful for anything, Mask of Algrim outclasses it on every character in the game.
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 20:07 |
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Mover posted:That sounds right. Add that the only "summoner" artifact worth keeping is Ultron's Encephalo-Balls and even that is usually outclassed Iron Legion Armor Sheath and ARMOR Portal are still fine unless you're going all-in on pure DPS artifacts. Stuff like Adv AIM Dispenser and Nutso are easy pickups that aren't outclassed until you start getting the top-end endgame artifacts, too. The real losers are the old pure DPS summoner chase artifacts like Mask of Doom, Mole Man's Staff, Luke's Chain, and Skrull Emperor Orders. All that stuff is just chaff now.
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 20:28 |
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Cease to Hope posted:The real losers are the old pure DPS summoner chase artifacts like Mask of Doom, Mole Man's Staff, Luke's Chain, and Skrull Emperor Orders. All that stuff is just chaff now. My Mask of Doom still has 40% Summon damage on it and +2 Int. Isn't that like 1800DR?
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 20:44 |
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Toshimo posted:My Mask of Doom still has 40% Summon damage on it and +2 Int. Isn't that like 1800DR? Nefarious Mask of Doom, I mean, the one that still drops. I dunno about the legacy Masks from before the story update.
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 20:48 |
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Mover posted:That sounds right. Add that the only "summoner" artifact worth keeping is Ultron's Encephalo-Balls and even that is usually outclassed You might be overselling it. +4 to damage attribute (either single or two to everything, so it hits by shotgun), paltry spirit/health on hit (neither of which is a super great way to stay alive), and Crit Rating with no Crit Damage (outside of Mental's +4 Int or Cosmic's +2 Int). I don't think any summoner would even want to wear it. Ultron/Iceman are more likely to use ILAS than anybody using that. Incidentally, while I was looking this up since I thought the non-cosmics could roll to +5 single type (guess that's just ILAS), I found out that they may have consolidated UEB attributes for cosmic, but it still drops in three types for the health on hit proc, which is just hilariously stupid. If they had any non-Summon damage rating attached it might be one thing, but they should have gone full Cosmic Crossbones on it for such a nothing stat.
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# ? Mar 1, 2017 23:07 |
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The only gear you need is the Doomsaw. Cuchulain fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Mar 2, 2017 |
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Cuchulain posted:The only gear you need is the Doomsaw. On an unrelated note.
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# ? Mar 2, 2017 04:21 |
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Is waifurine ever gonna get a visual update?
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# ? Mar 2, 2017 04:23 |
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Toshimo posted:So, yeah: Luke Cage is Fight/Dur. I forget if it's better than his S5, but worth checking.
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