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Quest For Glory II posted:nintendo is kind of coming into a generation where non-exclusive AAA games are kind of getting less interesting. FINANCIALLY they will hurt from not having mass effect but like. do i give a gently caress about ghost recon wildlands or for honor? no. dgaf about metal gear survive Forza at least. Since Gran Turismo is never going to come out
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i wont give them the credit for this but it's absolutely smart to go hard after indie developers and try to get exclusive content or timed exclusives or w/e because i feel its inevitable the profit margin on indie games/publishers will surpass AAA with the way AAA costs keep rising while the price of games at retail remains unchanging i mean yeah the AAA can flood their games full of microtransactions and multiple season passes but there's a ceiling on that. and the more you lean towards the whales the more the non-whales will be alienated i mean Stardew Valley just outsold many AAA games on PC in 2016 and that game is about farming and repeatedly giving copper bars to people to make them like you as opposed to huge setpieces, hollywood stars, and megatextures The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Mar 2, 2017 |
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Kai Tave posted:I don't really care that much about video game journalism or awards or even No Man's Sky but I would really like to know the rationale behind giving it an Innovation Award. Innovative in what way exactly? Peter Molyneux was doing that poo poo decades ago. Innovative social media strategies and community engagement
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Quest For Glory II posted:nintendo is kind of coming into a generation where non-exclusive AAA games are kind of getting less interesting. FINANCIALLY they will hurt from not having mass effect but like. do i give a gently caress about ghost recon wildlands or for honor? no. dgaf about metal gear survive worked out well for the wii u
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IMO they didn't really go hard after indies with Wii U. they didn't get all the engine support, just Unity and UE3. couldn't get UE4 or CryEngine or any other middleware. kind of narrows the options down they let on poo poo like Meme Run but didn't get Gone Home, they didn't get KSP, they didn't get The Witness, they didn't get Towerfall Ascension AND THAT WAS ON OUYA. they didn't get hyper light drifter. they didn't get Firewatch. a lot more they didn't get they also slacked on trying to get console-exclusive indie games, while Sony got exclusives (Obduction, Abzu, Broforce) and Microsoft had Inside
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Kai Tave posted:I don't really care that much about video game journalism or awards or even No Man's Sky but I would really like to know the rationale behind giving it an Innovation Award. Innovative in what way exactly? Peter Molyneux was doing that poo poo decades ago. Umm, please show a game that has full on interplanetary travel across a physics based system, and the ability to travel from one planets surface to the next without a proper loading screen. The programming math alone is pretty crazy. It's one thing to poo poo on the marketing, but not even the great will wright could get this working properly.
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Astroneer which looks like an early access version of NMS with working multiplayer and actual gameplay
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In Training posted:Astroneer which looks like an early access version of NMS with working multiplayer and actual gameplay It's no where near NMS's scale. And for all intents and purposes, NMS is an early access game as well.
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What does early access even mean anymore
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Jay Rust posted:What does early access even mean anymore It means the same thing as "open beta" now, which is to say that it's just a marketing gimmick.
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The Wii U was planned to get KSP, and they announced it and even showed it at a direct. Then the Wii U port went MIA after the PS4/Bone ports got panned.
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What early access should mean: You can play the game before its release date or before its day 1 updates What early access means: Beta test our game for us please
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Best EA game: Caves of Qud Worst EA game: Anything unfinished and broken and abandoned.
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IGN are dumb but at least some of the criticisms they bring up seem legit. Like they say it isn't awful but for a home console it's underpowered and for a portable it has poo poo battery life and is kinda bulky. None of that seems unreasonable to say.
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CJacobs posted:What early access should mean: You can play the game before its release date or before its day 1 updates It's not even beta testing going by normal software definitions. A game is feature complete at alpha and early access games usually start pretty bare while the developer basically implements all the milestones they intend have planned.
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And frankly, I'm not sure there's another way when it comes to small developers aiming for large games. Rimworld for example is a huge game (despite its simple graphics) made primarily by one dude who contracts out a small amount of work to other people. He's not particularly wealthy. The game is not getting made unless someone pays for it and very few publishers are even interested in what he's making. So we foot the bill. It's not optimal and I wasn't interested until it started to resembled a real game and then I jumped in.
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Guy Mann posted:I remember before the first Dishonored came out reading a preview in which the devs said that the ability to possess rats and fish came from them brainstorming the logical conclusions players would draw from having the ability to possess humans. I wonder if being able to turn into a coffee cup in Prey was bourne from that same mindset.
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bloodychill posted:And frankly, I'm not sure there's another way when it comes to small developers aiming for large games. Rimworld for example is a huge game (despite its simple graphics) made primarily by one dude who contracts out a small amount of work to other people. He's not particularly wealthy. The game is not getting made unless someone pays for it and very few publishers are even interested in what he's making. So we foot the bill. It's not optimal and I wasn't interested until it started to resembled a real game and then I jumped in. Early access is kind of like pre-orders in that they are a necessary evil to the developers making money off of their game, especially indie devs. Early access sucks, the game should be available when it's finished because then people will judge it fairly and on even ground as a finished product, and you won't have to structure your development in terms of everything you do during the process being visible by your audience. But money is king.
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bloodychill posted:And frankly, I'm not sure there's another way when it comes to small developers aiming for large games. Rimworld for example is a huge game (despite its simple graphics) made primarily by one dude who contracts out a small amount of work to other people. He's not particularly wealthy. The game is not getting made unless someone pays for it and very few publishers are even interested in what he's making. So we foot the bill. It's not optimal and I wasn't interested until it started to resembled a real game and then I jumped in. Honestly the early access label works perfectly for tiny indie games, and specifically for roguelikes, which are like the definition of tiny indie games. They're usually made by one dedicated crazy person and never come out feature complete, as there's always something new they can add. Anyways, there was an interesting discussion from one roguelikes dev and others about if he should release his game in EA or wait until it's 1.0 that starts here: https://twitter.com/GridSageGames/status/836792244845719553
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have you ever tried to use a widescreen hack for a game
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i know a lot of people hate early access but a lot of ea games seem to sell really well. I wonder if that's because the early access system is actually liked by a large group of people or if it's because the games that are ea are just what people want to play
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glam rock hamhock posted:IGN are dumb but at least some of the criticisms they bring up seem legit. Like they say it isn't awful but for a home console it's underpowered and for a portable it has poo poo battery life and is kinda bulky. None of that seems unreasonable to say. I feel like the underpowered complaint only comes into play if we think of the way triple AAA games need all that processing power. The WiiU wasn't matched at all with the PS4 and Xbone (and pretty much a bit weaker than the 360 and the PS3) but it was about utilising that hardware appropriately. Even though there was a real dearth of third party games, Nintendo still released a huge library of real quality exclusive games that worked for its console. Tropical Freeze looked beautiful, Maro Kart 8 was rich as all heck and Mario 3D World is wonderful. In a world where the PC/PS4/Xbone are interchangable and homogenous, I like the idea of a different console doing it's own thing and working to its own strengths. I'd hope that more publishers try to make cheaper games on the Switch and push the hardware, rather than the overblown, overbudgeted madness that seems to be the norm.
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Problem Sleuth posted:i know a lot of people hate early access but a lot of ea games seem to sell really well. I wonder if that's because the early access system is actually liked by a large group of people or if it's because the games that are ea are just what people want to play VideoGames posted:I feel like the underpowered complaint only comes into play if we think of the way triple AAA games need all that processing power. The WiiU wasn't matched at all with the PS4 and Xbone (and pretty much a bit weaker than the 360 and the PS3) but it was about utilising that hardware appropriately. Even though there was a real dearth of third party games, Nintendo still released a huge library of real quality exclusive games that worked for its console. Tropical Freeze looked beautiful, Maro Kart 8 was rich as all heck and Mario 3D World is wonderful. But it's probably not powerful enough to hold on to, say, the next Assassins Creed, or Call of Duty, or Battlefield, and those are all big money-making games (although Ubisoft at least gave it a shot with AC on Wii U)
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It's powerful enough to run New Donk City! Good enough for me, I'll grab one sometime when it's got a cool deal, gonna rock Zelda on the Wii-U. By the way I love Quest for Glory, classic series there.
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While I love the big super-pretty games like Uncharted 4 or Horizon or Doom or Total Warhammer, I do think like developers constantly going for super HD graphics can make for an overly expensive dev process. It's the dragon that Square Enix East chased into some pretty dark times, and it's what got Ubisoft on the yearly generic iterative update thing once they got their AAA dev pipeline built. There's also definitely space for lower fidelity games. Maybe they don't make CoD money but as long as they're fun, no big deal. That said, I still don't know about the Switch. I like the concept of Nintendo moving to a unified platform that I can buy and enjoy all their games but it looks like it's coming down to possibly flawed implementation. Part of me kinda wishes they stopped chasing the home console thing and just focused on handheld hardware while putting their console software on other platforms. They'll never do it but I guess I can wish. And of course, whatever platform gets Pikmin 4 I'll buy anyway. Speaking of which, Video Games, you should throw Pikmin 3 into your March RTS list.
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Quest For Glory II posted:A lot of them are survival games which for whatever reason makes people super thirsty Survival game devs think that that if you don't drink a liter of clean water every hour you will die from dehydration.
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I wouldnt question switchs power, except it cant run zelda in tv mode smoothly even with no anti aliasing. Zelda wasnt designed as a switch game of course but theyve had a long time to figure something out here idk.
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bushisms.txt posted:Umm, please show a game that has full on interplanetary travel across a physics based system, and the ability to travel from one planets surface to the next without a proper loading screen. The programming math alone is pretty crazy. It's one thing to poo poo on the marketing, but not even the great will wright could get this working properly. Noctis Also Parkan I guess
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Finally gave up, cancelled my physical Zelda preorder and switched it to digital. What is this hosed up world where a digital download code costs more than a physical disc and case?
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Digital always costs more than physical here, unless it's on sale.
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Olive Garden tonight! posted:Finally gave up, cancelled my physical Zelda preorder and switched it to digital. What is this hosed up world where a digital download code costs more than a physical disc and case? That changed recently bc now physical retailers are trying to push back. Youre paying extra for the convenience of no disc I suppose
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It's just like how online classes cost more than the university actually having to schedule and provide building space and desks and chairs and sometimes computers.
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i alway s buy physical copies because i like to arrange then in alphabetical order on my shelf and look at them from time to time
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Sakurazuka posted:Digital always costs more than physical here, unless it's on sale. Generally true in the US too though Steam is an obvious exception and PSN has started doing regular sales that are at least decent. Nintendo even does decent sales from time to time, rare as it is.
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Which still baffles me. Can you imagine how many more people would buy digital games if they were priced €10-20 cheaper. But it hurts when i see, for example Nier Automata on the US store for $59,99 and in the EU store Nier Automata is €69.99. Same version.
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Well the price of physical is slowly getting pushed up too, getting a new game for less than £45 is going to be rare soon. I blame Brexit and old people.
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Yeah the best price I could find Zelda at was £48
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Didn't the industry try to get games priced at €70. The backlash was so great that they immediately gave up on it? Edit: Well, most games go to €40-45 in 3-6 months. If you are patient enough. Sefal fucked around with this message at 13:39 on Mar 2, 2017 |
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