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PK loving SUBBAN posted:No it's more like they're very scared and insecure, so they poo poo on other people to make themselves feel better. Wait are we talking about conservatives or liberals in this post
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Krustic posted:Nah not really. It's kinda like how I work with several classic liberals who dislike being lumped in with the rainbow hair, communist, SJW, burn it all down terrorism is fine cause as long as the cause is just types. I wouldn't suggest that all or even most liberals fall into this camp but I could be wrong. Someone can support Socialism without having rainbow hair, being a SJW or a Communist. I don't know why anybody who isn't one of the ten richest multibillionaires in the country wouldn't want Socialism or even care or notice if they're slightly less rich while the poor are now living way more comfortably. You could even keep the wage imbalance, just make it less imbalanced. That's the bare loving minimum we're asking here and it's entirely doable without "burning it all down".
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Kjoery posted:frog tripper* nope, still not a thing
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King Vidiot posted:Someone can support Socialism without having rainbow hair, being a SJW or a Communist. I don't know why anybody who isn't one of the ten richest multibillionaires in the country wouldn't want Socialism or even care or notice if they're slightly less rich while the poor are now living way more comfortably. Americans are by and large already for socialism, many of them (particularly conservatives) simply don't know it. The difference is how much socialism they want, and what their criteria is.
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King Vidiot posted:Someone can support Socialism without having rainbow hair, being a SJW or a Communist. I don't know why anybody who isn't one of the ten richest multibillionaires in the country wouldn't want Socialism or even care or notice if they're slightly less rich while the poor are now living way more comfortably. Sure. However the leaders of the DNC decided to go in a different direction and have given no indication that they will change directions or strategies.
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Toadvine posted:Wait are we talking about conservatives or liberals in this post Left right is an outdated paradigm
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King Vidiot posted:Someone can support Socialism without having rainbow hair, being a SJW or a Communist. I don't know why anybody who isn't one of the ten richest multibillionaires in the country wouldn't want Socialism or even care or notice if they're slightly less rich while the poor are now living way more comfortably. One of the problems is the many definitions of what "socialism" means to certain people. Do you want what Northern European countries have? Because that's not actually socialism. What Bernie proposed? That's not actually socialism, either. People agitating for change need to make a REALISTIC list of what they think they could implement and name it something else because the global record for actual "socialism" is worse than the Nazis.
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runupon cracker posted:Americans are by and large already for socialism, many of them (particularly conservatives) simply don't know it. The difference is how much socialism they want, and what their criteria is. I think a large portion of the population would like universal healthcare but it won't happen because insurance companies have a lot of power in our government and it would be bad for their bottom line. Healthcare is by in large a profit based business.
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:Left right is an outdated paradigm I wish.
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Krustic posted:Nah not really. It's kinda like how I work with several classic liberals who dislike being lumped in with the rainbow hair, communist, SJW, burn it all down terrorism is fine cause as long as the cause is just types. I wouldn't suggest that all or even most liberals fall into this camp but I could be wrong.
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realistically i just want to smash the bourgie and seize the means of production
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:Left right is an outdated paradigm so what's the new paradigm?
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Kjoery posted:yea, lumping everyone with opposing viewpoints into one category is dumb - thats why i was laying out criteria for classifying frogmen. note that this thread has a genuine #pizzagater, a person who unironically reads #the_donald, and one guy who regurgitates a specific frogman youtuber's talking points ad infinium. 4chan trolls and their ilk are not exactly known for their creativity, and do tend to follow a clear MO. the more clever frogs can be harder to pin down, though, its true You should pay attention to the actual information, not who says it. Although it's easier to attack and write off somebody because you don't approve of them, it's also an easy way to end up ignorant and in an echo chamber.
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She has finally transformed into alt-zombie
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the face of someone that knows she's getting 8 years of yuge glorious leader
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I didn't know the crypt keeper was a mtf trans. She's beautiful.
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Krustic posted:Nah not really. It's kinda like how I work with several classic liberals who dislike being lumped in with the rainbow hair, communist, SJW, burn it all down terrorism is fine cause as long as the cause is just types. I wouldn't suggest that all or even most liberals fall into this camp but I could be wrong. That's fair. Thank you for taking the time to explain. I may disagree with alt-right and conservative people on most things but if there's one thing I learned from recent events it's that it's really, really dumb to not try to understand why you feel the way you do and do the things you do. I appreciate your help.
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# ? Mar 2, 2017 20:58 |
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Poetic Justice posted:Have you read the full quote? It changes the context. Franken brought up allegations that Trump's campaign was exchanging information with intermediaries for the Russian government and asked what Sessions would do about it. Sessions response is that he did not communicate with the Russians. ...And then they said he did but didn't talk about the election. ...And then they said he did talk about the campaign but it was light. ...And now Trump has said that Sessions has his "full confidence"
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Poetic Justice posted:You should pay attention to the actual information, not who says it. Although it's easier to attack and write off somebody because you don't approve of them, it's also an easy way to end up ignorant and in an echo chamber. these particular posts have more been pertaining to information about the movement as a whole
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw
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Knight posted:I've seen that and it doesn't change any of the context. The context being of course he met the Russian ambassador, because that's part of his job, as a senator. He did not meet him in his function as a Trump surrogate. edit: At least as someone who considers himself disinterested, that's how I see it. somethingawful bf fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Mar 2, 2017 |
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Poetic Justice posted:The context being of course he met the Russian ambassador, because that's part of his job, as a senator. He did not meet him in his function as a Trump surrogate. Then Sessions should have admitted that at the confirmation hearing, not lie and say that he didn't have any contact with the Russians. It's not the event, it's the cover-up.
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So the dem women listening to Trumps schpiel wearing white. Protest symbolizing... what? I would have given them more credit had they all worn the pussy hats.
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sincx posted:Then Sessions should have admitted that at the confirmation hearing, not lie and say that he didn't have any contact with the Russians. BEEP BOOP BOOP BEEP Yes, they totally should narrow things completely out of context and then act on those single sentences.
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sincx posted:Then Sessions should have admitted that at the confirmation hearing, not lie and say that he didn't have any contact with the Russians. I mean he could have said something like "I speak with Russia as part of my Senate position" but again that wasn't really the question being asked. So eh... again I think people are blowing it out of proportion, personally.
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Fog Tripper posted:BEEP BOOP BOOP BEEP Yes, they totally should narrow things completely out of context and then act on those single sentences. LOL the Trumpzstaffel is out in full force today. There was nothing narrow about it. Maybe actually read the transcript instead of just listening to Fox? Here's the entire exchange: quote:FRANKEN: CNN just published a story alleging that the intelligence community provided documents to the president-elect last week, that included information that “Russian operatives claim to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump.” These documents also allegedly say “there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government.” Again, I’m telling you this as it’s coming out, so, you know. FRANKEN: A few cookies might have been stolen from the cookie jar. What would you do if you get a lead on who stole the cookies? SESSIONS: IT WASN'T ME, I DIDN'T STEAL THE COOKIES. He did this in a written response as well. sincx fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Mar 2, 2017 |
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Poetic Justice posted:The context being of course he met the Russian ambassador, because that's part of his job, as a senator. He did not meet him in his function as a Trump surrogate.
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sincx posted:Then Sessions should have admitted that at the confirmation hearing, not lie and say that he didn't have any contact with the Russians. Also, while it probably would have only been a minor issue if he hadn't lied: https://twitter.com/adamentous/status/837390959193309186 Meeting with the Russian ambassador wasn't actually an expected part of that job, so the notion that it was normal/unexceptional doesn't really pass the laugh test. E: Poetic Justice posted:I mean he could have said something like "I speak with Russia as part of my Senate position" but again that wasn't really the question being asked. So eh... again I think people are blowing it out of proportion, personally. LGD fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Mar 2, 2017 |
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Fog Tripper posted:BEEP BOOP BOOP BEEP Yes, they totally should narrow things completely out of context and then act on those single sentences. BUT HER EMAILS
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Poetic Justice posted:I mean he could have said something like "I speak with Russia as part of my Senate position" but again that wasn't really the question being asked. So eh... again I think people are blowing it out of proportion, personally. LGD posted:Also, while it probably would have only been a minor issue if he hadn't lied: It's amazing how quickly Breitbart and Hannity can disseminate the latest talking point from Reichsstatthalter Bannon to the entirety of the alt-right.
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http://i.imgur.com/wMkBwTl.jpg The dastardly alt-right have appropriated another innocuous symbol for their white supremacy movement.
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# ? Mar 2, 2017 21:21 |
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If Loretta Lynch didn't recuse, then Sessions shouldn't. It's really that simple.
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# ? Mar 2, 2017 21:21 |
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sincx posted:LOL there was nothing narrow about it. Maybe actually read the transcript instead of just listening to Fox? Franken knows that Sessions meets with foreign diplomats all the time including the Russians so that rules out the issue of asking about meeting Russians as a Senator. Sessions knows that and Franken also knows that. The only other context left is working on behalf of the campaign. Sessions is clearly saying he has been called a surrogate and IN THAT CAPACITY he didn't have communications with Russia.
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Moridin920 posted:Oh. the pizza shop pedo conspiracy literally has more evidence to it than russian involvement in the election one of which is a 'debunked conspiracy theory' and the other a 'massive scandal'
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Poetic Justice posted:Franken knows that Sessions meets with foreign diplomats all the time including the Russians so that rules out the issue of asking about meeting Russians as a Senator. Sessions knows that and Franken also knows that. The only other context left is working on behalf of the campaign. Sessions is clearly saying he has been called a surrogate and IN THAT CAPACITY he didn't have communications with Russia. Also, maybe he had his fingers crossed while under oath, it's an old lawyer's trick.
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Poetic Justice posted:Franken knows that Sessions meets with foreign diplomats all the time including the Russians so that rules out the issue of asking about meeting Russians as a Senator. Sessions knows that and Franken also knows that. The only other context left is working on behalf of the campaign. Sessions is clearly saying he has been called a surrogate and IN THAT CAPACITY he didn't have communications with Russia. No one else met with Russia. It wasn't part of the job, unless the job is "how to get Trump elected with the help of a hostile foreign power." https://twitter.com/adamentous/status/837390959193309186
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I feel like he obviously meant 'the Russians' as in any foreign operatives trying to subvert anything like the questioner asked and this is just some stupid gotcha word game bullshit going on right now. In the context of this: quote:FRANKEN: CNN just published a story alleging that the intelligence community provided documents to the president-elect last week, that included information that “Russian operatives claim to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump.” These documents also allegedly say “there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government.” Again, I’m telling you this as it’s coming out, so, you know. he's not talking about literally any Russian in any government position. He's talking specifically about the allegations that Senator Franken is talking about. He could have worded it better I suppose but jfc a little bit. sincx posted:Translation: You're ignoring the "I have been called a surrogate a time or two in that campaign." As in, "People said I was a cookie thief too, idk what they're talking about I know no of cookie thieving." And it is part of the Russian ambassador's job to meet and greet and chat with every official they can because that's their job ffs. It's like a school yard where we're all mad about "ooooh he said 'hi' to you why are they saying 'hi' to you???"
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Poetic Justice posted:Franken knows that Sessions meets with foreign diplomats all the time including the Russians so that rules out the issue of asking about meeting Russians as a Senator. Sessions knows that and Franken also knows that. The only other context left is working on behalf of the campaign. Sessions is clearly saying he has been called a surrogate and IN THAT CAPACITY he didn't have communications with Russia. You seem to know a lot about what Sessions did with the ASC, so I have a few questions for you: - how many other members of the ASC have met with foreign ambassadors as part of their ASC activities? - how many other foreign ambassadors has Sessions met with as part of his ASC activities? - had Sessions ever met with Kislyak before 2016?
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the goalposts have been moved so far that now finally evidence of one guy in trumps cabinet talking to someone employed by the russian government a single time is as good as confirmation of every absurd conspiracy involving direct involvement by the russian government in our election process
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Moridin920 posted:he's not talking about literally any Russian in any government position. He's talking specifically about the allegations that Senator Franken is talking about. no if he so much as drank a bottle of stoly he should be indicted for perjury imho
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