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X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Rarity posted:

Netflix has their own version of Ninja Warrior and it's hosted by Terry Crews :stare:

And it's total garbage.

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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
If I was going to revisit one or two of my favourite childhood cartoons (I was born in 1991) what could I expect to hold up well?

My first instinct is either Gargoyles or Darkwing Duck. Thought those were great.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Profiling helps grandma not think about the terrifying reality that serial killers are almost never caught, and in many cases the police don't even connect their murders until decades later

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Do we have a thread for animated programmes in general?

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Wheat Loaf posted:

If I was going to revisit one or two of my favourite childhood cartoons (I was born in 1991) what could I expect to hold up well?

My first instinct is either Gargoyles or Darkwing Duck. Thought those were great.

Those are both good. Really depends on what was running during your childhood. My favorite childhood cartoon was The Mysterious Cities of Gold and it's even better as an adult with a moderate understanding of the actual history that's used in the show.

Pan Dulce
Jan 4, 2011

Beautiful cinnamon roll too good for this world, too pure



Wheat Loaf posted:

If I was going to revisit one or two of my favourite childhood cartoons (I was born in 1991) what could I expect to hold up well?

My first instinct is either Gargoyles or Darkwing Duck. Thought those were great.

Animaniacs and Rocko's Modern Life are way different as an adult. Tiny Toons to a smaller extent. Samurai Jack is beautiful and the upcoming season makes catching up worthwhile.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Well, originally, the cartoons my parents would put me down in front of the TV to watch when they wanted to keep me occupied were old Hanna Barbera shows, Tom and Jerry, Looney Tunes as well as stuff like Rugrats and Aah! Real Monsters. There was a lot my mum didn't approve of that I wasn't technically allowed to watch but saw anyway (off the top of my head, Rocko's Modern Life, Ren and Stimpy, Johnny Bravo, Cow and Chicken and, for some reason, the Powerpuff Girls).

When I was a bit older, I most enjoyed the DCAU cartoons, the aforementioned Gargoyles, Samurai Jack, the endless Fox Kids reruns of the X-Men and Spider-Man animated series, Dragon Ball Z and this one show called Chris Colorado which was one of the action-adventure cartoons they had when they launched CNX.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Wheat Loaf posted:

If I was going to revisit one or two of my favourite childhood cartoons (I was born in 1991) what could I expect to hold up well?

My first instinct is either Gargoyles or Darkwing Duck. Thought those were great.

Batman: TAS probably does.



e: I don't know if Eek! the Cat holds up but I'd like to think it does.


Pan Dulce posted:

Animaniacs and Rocko's Modern Life are way different as an adult. Tiny Toons to a smaller extent. Samurai Jack is beautiful and the upcoming season makes catching up worthwhile.

Rocco's Modern Life is suuuuuuper rapey, I actually just had that conversation today somewhere else.



Also in Rugrats, the grandpa is always watching porn.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
If Darkwing Duck doesn't hold up, nobody tell me, because I want to believe it was as good as I remember.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Pretty much all the WB cartoons from the '90s are actually just as good if not better as an adult because the comedy that worked as a kid still works for an adult and a lot of them have other levels of humor you'd never have gotten as a child. Animaniacs, Tiny Toon Adventures, Pinky and the Brain, Freakazoid, and the underrated and often forgotten Histeria. The only one I never got into was Taz-Mania.

precision posted:

If Darkwing Duck doesn't hold up, nobody tell me, because I want to believe it was as good as I remember.

The Disney stuff like Ducktales, Darkwing Duck, TaleSpin, etc all have a timeless quality to them that pretty much preserve them for any era. They were really well made.

Pan Dulce
Jan 4, 2011

Beautiful cinnamon roll too good for this world, too pure



IRQ posted:

Rocco's Modern Life is suuuuuuper rapey, I actually just had that conversation today somewhere else.



Also in Rugrats, the grandpa is always watching porn.

Cow and Chicken and Jonny Bravo had some scenes that had a TON of dubious consent. I think that era just fed into poo poo like that. I was looking back at other tv shows to watch and came up with some more: Daria, Freakazoid, Hey Arnold!, Courage the Cowardly Dog, The Tick, and King of the Hill.

Also, watching Batman: The Animated Series in conjunction with listening to the podcast the Arkham Session is gold.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

X-O posted:

The Disney stuff like Ducktales, Darkwing Duck, TaleSpin, etc all have a timeless quality to them that pretty much preserve them for any era. They were really well made.

Those shows were made during Disney's golden age smack between Beauty and the Beast and Lion King, they most definitely hold up. I know it's not the same people making them, but it's also no real surprise that the quality was there.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

X-O posted:

Pretty much all the WB cartoons from the '90s are actually just as good if not better as an adult because the comedy that worked as a kid still works for an adult and a lot of them have other levels of humor you'd never have gotten as a child. Animaniacs, Tiny Toon Adventures, Pinky and the Brain, Freakazoid, and the underrated and often forgotten Histeria. The only one I never got into was Taz-Mania.


The Disney stuff like Ducktales, Darkwing Duck, TaleSpin, etc all have a timeless quality to them that pretty much preserve them for any era. They were really well made.

Gummi Bears was, is and always will be horrible though.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
I didn't ever watch Rocko's Modern Life until I was 19 or 20. Getting stoned and watching Nickelodeon all morning was my preferred hangover cure back then. That show is incredibly hosed up.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

IRQ posted:

Those shows were made during Disney's golden age smack between Beauty and the Beast and Lion King, they most definitely hold up. I know it's not the same people making them, but it's also no real surprise that the quality was there.

Was that when Katzenberg was still in charge of the studio (i.e. before Frank Wells died and Michael Eisner went fully mad with power*) or would they not have been responsible for that? Was television animation a different division?

I also remember really liking some of the Disney cartoons in the block that succeeded Disney Afternoon, like Recess and Lloyd In Space and The Weekenders. I think Recess still holds up but I'm less sure about the other two.

Anyway, think I might give some of Gargoyles another watch at some stage.

* Read Disney War, folks.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

See I've never really liked Disney animated movies (besides Lion King and Mulan) but I loved their cartoons like the ones I mentioned above. I was always more of a WB cartoon fan both of the classic shorts and the '90s cartoon shows. I have basically no attachment to any of the main Disney characters.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
I've never actually seen Mulan, and it's on Hulu. What makes it good?

I'm on episode 2 of Legion, Aubrey Plaza is killing it

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

I watched Justice League Unlimited recently, it holds up perfectly.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Mulan ain't great. BatB is undeniably the best imo

Pan Dulce
Jan 4, 2011

Beautiful cinnamon roll too good for this world, too pure



precision posted:

I've never actually seen Mulan, and it's on Hulu. What makes it good?

I'm on episode 2 of Legion, Aubrey Plaza is killing it

Mulan's awesome. It's end of the Disney Renaissance stuff that's good. The music bits are the best: I still can't go without singing along to "Make A Man Outta You" when the movie plays. The humor's there, the poignant bits do get sad, and it's one of the starting Disney films where the "princess" isn't a lovelorn woman.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Pan Dulce posted:

The music bits are the best: I still can't go without singing along to "Make A Man Outta You" when the movie plays.

I don't know, I think that's the only really memorable song it has, sort of like how Hunchback only really has "Hellfire".

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Rhyno posted:

Gummi Bears was, is and always will be horrible though.

I'll always have a special place in my heart for Gummi Bears because to this day I can still manage a pretty solid memory of watching it while I was packing to go to Disney World for the first time and then arriving in the drat treehouse villa and running off to the theme park and running into big Gummi Bear people and feeling like i had just entered some magical world through my TV.

J-Spot
May 7, 2002

IRQ posted:

Rocco's Modern Life is suuuuuuper rapey, I actually just had that conversation today somewhere else.
Super... rapey? I'm goin gto need an elaboration on that one. I know they somehow got away with all sorts of innuendo but I don't remember anything that would earn it that description.

Looten Plunder
Jul 11, 2006
Grimey Drawer
It's a shame the 90s cartoons that I've tried to rewatch look so drat janky these days. My eyes can't handle watching old school XMen, spiderman, transformers cause of the framerate and super canned sound effects/music.

I know Batman is still doing its thing and I should really check that out but has there been a recent animated series of Spiderman or XMen?

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Looten Plunder posted:

It's a shame the 90s cartoons that I've tried to rewatch look so drat janky these days. My eyes can't handle watching old school XMen, spiderman, transformers cause of the framerate and super canned sound effects/music.

All of those show are terrible though. The Disney/WB stuff was both good and animated very well.

Looten Plunder
Jul 11, 2006
Grimey Drawer
I'm not arguing that, but I haven't tried to rewatch those.

J-Spot
May 7, 2002

Looten Plunder posted:

I know Batman is still doing its thing and I should really check that out but has there been a recent animated series of Spiderman or XMen?

I think there have been several Spider Man shows since then. Spectacular Spider-Man was probably the best but was replaced by the cartoonier Ultimate Spider-Man which may be on Netflix. There was a show called Wolverine and the X-Men that was pretty good but it only ran for one season. They were working on a second but I think it became a casualty of Marvel's recent X-Men hatred.

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax
90s stuff can still be pretty rough but at the very least it holds up a lot better than what came before it since by that point you at least had more creator-driven stuff instead of the irredeemably garbage toy commercials of the 80s or the endlessly derivative and incestuous Hanna-Barbera clones that came before that.

The thing from that era that's held up the most in my eyes is The Adventures of Pete & Pete, mostly because of how hard it is to pull of that kind of magical realism/dream logic so effortlessly. Also because the cameos are so inexplicably outside of anything the target audience would recognize. You could release that show today more or less unchanged and it would still be great.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Pete and Pete got the most insanely good cameos imaginable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1elBZ3ksSc

The fact that the mailwoman was the woman who did The Power of Pussy is like, the least amazing cameo in there. And Martin Donovan is smoking in his cameo. Smoking! In a kids show on Nickelodeon?!

e: uncredited, the guy playing Debbie Harry's husband is the dad from The Butthole Surfers' "Family BBQ" short film, oh my god

precision fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Mar 3, 2017

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


precision posted:

Pete and Pete got the most insanely good cameos imaginable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1elBZ3ksSc

The fact that the mailwoman was the woman who did The Power of Pussy is like, the least amazing cameo in there. And Martin Donovan is smoking in his cameo. Smoking! In a kids show on Nickelodeon?!

e: uncredited, the guy playing Debbie Harry's husband is the dad from The Butthole Surfers' "Family BBQ" short film, oh my god

There was also the summer special with Michael Stipe as the cruddy ice cream man.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Wheat Loaf posted:

If I was going to revisit one or two of my favourite childhood cartoons (I was born in 1991) what could I expect to hold up well?

My first instinct is either Gargoyles or Darkwing Duck. Thought those were great.

Both of those are pretty solid. Darkwing Duck has a few dud episodes, but it's still pretty funny and way better than Duck Tales.

Just don't start trying to watch the 90s Spider-man cartoon or Bots Master or some other poo poo like that. Stick to your Aladdins and your Batmans.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
FEEL FREE TO DISREGARD THIS POST

It is guaranteed to be lazy, ignorant, and/or uninformed.
Holy poo poo how did I miss them remaking Ducktales and David Tennant voicing Scrooge. Yessssssssssssssssssssssss.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Wheat Loaf posted:

I don't know, I think that's the only really memorable song it has, sort of like how Hunchback only really has "Hellfire".

Heaven's Light, The Bells Of Notre Dame and God Help The Outcasts are all really good. :colbert: (Yes, I know the first is cheating slightly as it's basically the angelic counterpoint to Hellfire)

Gargoyles and Batman are solid choices for gothic kids action shows. I'm always impressed by how tight the continuity was on Gargoyles, it was pretty serialised for a show that came before most US studios and networks accepted that ADULTS could follow a serial story outside of soaps, let alone kids.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Blood is a really good example of an early X-files episode that should've been just "some weird poo poo happens" that gets dragged down by needing to tie it into the idea that THEY are behind it all.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

muscles like this! posted:

There was also the summer special with Michael Stipe as the cruddy ice cream man.

And Iggy Pop didn't even "cameo", he was a part time cast member as the girl's dad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW-8-aIr00I

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Duane Barry is attempted murder on epileptics disguised as TV.

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

Lurdiak posted:

Millenium is on the watch list once I get to the lovely part of X-files. I don't remember that show being good that often, but it was so loving weird.

I pretend Millennium was only the first two seasons but it's mostly just that second one being so good.

Rarity posted:

The first two seasons of Skins are great, the third season is half-ace, half-dreadful and from then on it goes completely off the rails. I watched season 4 right up until the penultimate cliffhanger where Freddie confronts Effy's therapist because he has been hypnotising her so he can kidnap her and gets murdered with a baseball bat

what

This sounds like British Ryan Murphy. If I go watching am I going to get that level of crazy?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

END ME SCOOB posted:


what

This sounds like British Ryan Murphy. If I go watching am I going to get that level of crazy?


Nah, there's a shitload of teen sex and drug use and a fair amount of mental disorders but nothing on the Murphian scale.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
God those first 2 seasons of Skins are so good. Especially 1 with Tony as a Machiavellian schemer. Fascinating character.

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Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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Can't post for 10 years!

Escobarbarian posted:

God those first 2 seasons of Skins are so good. Especially 1 with Tony as a Machiavellian schemer. Fascinating character.

Sid's dad was a great side character. And that episode in series 2 is amazing. I don't think I've ever watched such a short series that gave so many characters so much depth.

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