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Aleks_r posted:This italian heart breaker is what i drive every day. I had a B5 Passat Variant 1.8T before i bought this one, and although i thought it was cool as hell it was getting a bit long in the tooth (160.000 miles on the odometer), and i was tired of changing the oil and filter every 5000 miles. There are rebuild kits for the M32, places that rebuild it, and cheaper refurbed gearboxes to be had. I've got a MiTo with the very same M32 gearbox. No problems so far, and I'm pretty confident that I can replace the bearings myself for a couple of hundred bucks if the dreaded telltale signs of whine / vibration / in 6th gear ever occur. A top tip is to replace the gearbox oil at decent intervals and use what the specialists recommend (Fuchs Titan Sintofluid if I remember correctly). First thing I did when I bought the car was to replace the engine and gearbox fluid as I don't trust dealers / workshops to know enough about it (even if it's a pretty Fiat Punto with many shared parts). I enjoy my little 155hp monster. It looks great and always stands out (I think I've seen 3 other MiTos in my town of 300k people). People seem to enjoy looking at it as well. Sadly it isn't really what I'm looking for in a car long term. It's great for driving around town, but is tiring as hell when driving at motorway speeds. I can't decide whether to keep it until we know how reliable the Giulias will be, or to get something bigger in between. I wish they'd release a 6 cylinder non QV one. Edit: Also, I don't know where you are located at (Looks like northern Europe?), but ebay.de/co.uk has good prices on Alfa Parts. Edit: VVV Yeah who am I kidding. The only thing that I dislike about it is that it's either all the way to QV for a 6 cylinder, or it's 4 cylinder turbos. I'd love a 350hp V6 in a non QV spec (and cost). MrOnBicycle fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Mar 1, 2017 |
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MrOnBicycle posted:I can't decide whether to keep it until we know how reliable the Giulias will be I'm not sure you're Alfa Romeo-ing properly.  That is quite a lovely looking thing though.
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MrOnBicycle posted:>There are rebuild kits for the M32, places that rebuild it, and cheaper refurbed gearboxes to be had. I've got a MiTo with the very same M32 gearbox. No problems so far, and I'm pretty confident that I can replace the bearings myself for a couple of hundred bucks if the dreaded telltale signs of whine / vibration / in 6th gear ever occur. A top tip is to replace the gearbox oil at decent intervals and use what the specialists recommend (Fuchs Titan Sintofluid if I remember correctly). < Yes i am aware of that. However, none of the garages i spoke to did rebuilds anymore. Something about the pre-tensioning of the bearings that was very hard to get right, and it would be just as bad again within half a year they said. I trawled the internet for local specialist shops that would rebuild manual gearboxes, but all were specialized in automatic gearboxes only. I then tried to contact a used parts dealer in the UK (where there are plenty more 159s than in Norway, where i am situated) but they never really responded. As you probably can understand, removing the gearbox and having it shipped internationally was not really an option since i needed the car to get to and from work (i live in the boons). So I finally had to bite the bullet and accepted an offer from a small garage that specializes in italian cars. Good thing i did too, because they found that the thrust bearing/slave cylinder needed to be replaced as well. I plan to change the transmission oil yearly - and that's really about as much as i can do to avoid the issue again.
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Aleks_r posted:Yes i am aware of that. However, none of the garages i spoke to did rebuilds anymore. Something about the pre-tensioning of the bearings that was very hard to get right, and it would be just as bad again within half a year they said. I trawled the internet for local specialist shops that would rebuild manual gearboxes, but all were specialized in automatic gearboxes only. I then tried to contact a used parts dealer in the UK (where there are plenty more 159s than in Norway, where i am situated) but they never really responded. As you probably can understand, removing the gearbox and having it shipped internationally was not really an option since i needed the car to get to and from work (i live in the boons). So I finally had to bite the bullet and accepted an offer from a small garage that specializes in italian cars. Good thing i did too, because they found that the thrust bearing/slave cylinder needed to be replaced as well. I would have put money on that it was Norwegian scenery in the picture  If spares / fluid prices are as over inflated in Norway as they are in Sweden I recommend Opie Oils for getting the fluids. Cheap and nice delivery (at least to Sweden). Interesting about the pre-tensioning on the bearings, I'll have to look into it some more. Worst case I'll get a gearbox from Germany and do it myself as fortunately I'm not dependent on the car. Fingers crossed it I'll be spared. Hopefully your new gearbox has the redesigned endplate that allows more oil to reach the 6 gear bearing. Apparently there is no problem with the M32 gearbox according to the manufacturers, yet it was redesigned it to fix the problem.... I'll be changing my oil yearly as well. It's a cheap insurance.
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I've olded so hard I ended up buying a Lexus of all things.  It does have this though  I scored this 1995 Lexus SC300 with a 5 speed manual transmission. 80k miles on it, detailed service history at Lexus for it's entire life and one owner. Completely stock. The guy/dealer I bought it from didn't know exactly what he had, it was more of a novelty for him (lol manual Lexus weird!) and also commented that he didn't want to drive it anymore because soon it would be over 80k and 'in a different price bracket' so I got it for $6200 bucks. Everything works and it's in quite great shape. Needs a detailing (I don't detail cars because I want people to see how I got them - a dumbass seller) and def. needs a tune up, fluid flush and various other typical stuff but wowee I became a Lexus enthusiast overnight. Heck even the multi-disc CD player in the trunk works without issue, and even this thing which I guess never survives?   Some more hot pix  don't dox me         My wife and I have fallen totally for this old white person mobile really hard and it sounds fantastic.
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Mar 2, 2017 23:02
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That cup holder is giving me a boner.
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KakerMix posted:I've olded so hard I ended up buying a Lexus of all things. Nice Supra. My neighbor has a purple one, but his is dumped so hard that he can't get out of his garage (literally 2 degrees incline driveway)without using plywood stacks.
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That's cool. What is the relationship between those and the Supra?
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KakerMix posted:I've olded so hard I ended up buying a Lexus of all things. Always liked these and have wanted to do a 1/2JZ swap into one. They just don't make cool big rear end coupes like that anymore. 
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slidebite posted:That's cool. What is the relationship between those and the Supra? A number of the same parts including a 2Jz (minus the turbo)
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slidebite posted:That's cool. What is the relationship between those and the Supra? Same chassis. Several people have gotten these from junkyards and swapped in a JZA80 drivetrain, you can get a Supra with comfortable seats and a Lexus badge for less than half what MKIVs cost these days, and it makes a hell of a sleeper.
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:Nice Supra.  You can find way more Turbo 2JZ-swapped SC300s than stock SC300s with a stick (only made 3800 or so total ever manual transmission SC300 during it's whole run from 1992 - 2000) This all started because I drive my kei van all over the place, my wife is getting a Jimny (kei class version of what the Samurai was based on because a clean stock Samurai when you can find them [you can't] go for 7500) and our Golf R is just going to sit. So we figured let's get an old person car for the times we need the interstate because we're surrounded by snowbirds and their immaculate dealer-maintained luxury barges with 10s of thousands of miles on them and let that sit and get back lots of money on the R while we still can. What turned into a search for a 90 - 2000 LS400 ended up in us buying the not-Supra.
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That is pretty sweet man.
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SC300, non turbo supra without the supra tax. Same loving car.
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RHD 1JZ soarers were down around $3k at one point, and i really regret not buying one. Since then, they've pretty much all been crashed out.
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You're giving me very bad ideas.
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I used to have an SC400 with the same color scheme and I miss that car so much. It was the most polished vehicle I've ever driven.
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KakerMix posted:I've olded so hard I ended up buying a Lexus of all things. Nice! As a broke 240sx owner, if I ever got a Lexus this would be it. I think you got a great deal as even rust buckets w/100k miles are listed at around $5k or more here. I have a couple friends with the turbo swap you mentioned and they are amazing. One of them rebadged to Scion because lol. I know when they arrive because you can hear them idling from a block away indoors.
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KakerMix posted:because a clean stock Samurai when you can find them [you can't] go for 7500 They can't be that bad, can they? This guy seems to be selling a couple, although this is the cleaner of the two: https://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/6020037653.html
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An SC with a JZA80 swap is on my "dumb things I want to do" list, along with doing a 99 Galant VR4 swap or importing a Legnum or Evo Wagon.
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I was poking around on Autotrader and I don't see a single other manual SC 400 listed. A unicorn indeed.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:I was poking around on Autotrader and I don't see a single other manual SC 400 listed. A unicorn indeed. 400s are auto only. He has a 300. That said, there's only 3 manual 300s on autotrader so it's still super cool.
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Raluek posted:They can't be that bad, can they? This guy seems to be selling a couple, although this is the cleaner of the two: https://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/6020037653.html That is a pretty nice one yeah, but we're looking for one with A/C as well. Bummer that the seats have been replaced too but these things were just beat on. Plus with a Jimny we can get one newer that 91 which means a slight power bump and fuel injection along with a tin top (tin top stopped being sold here before the 91 fuel injection switch) and they have some wicked sick graphics on the side sometimes.
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Jymmybob posted:400s are auto only. He has a 300. That said, there's only 3 manual 300s on autotrader so it's still super cool. Ah, my bad. Either way, I'm unironically considering getting one down the road myself; either a 300 or 400.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:Ah, my bad. Either way, I'm unironically considering getting one down the road myself; either a 300 or 400. From what I've seen if you want a manual you have to get the 300, otherwise you should always go for the 400 because V8. Or get a 400 and to a manual swap on it.
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I didn't think I'd actually seriously consider owning a 20 year old car, but I'm actually becoming seriously tempted. It's a functional, very well built, long lasting coupe. My list of potential vehicles to test-drive in a year or two is becoming longer and longer. (Getting married later this year, not allowed to splurge on a new [to me] car until next year). I may eventually go the sedan route (hello Poop Group Charger), but I love the idea of having a V8 coupe.
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Owning a 20 year old car now is nothing like owning a 20 year old car 20 years ago. When you're replacing NLA driver FETs and dried up electrolytic capacitors rather than trying to cobble together poo poo from Summit on an orphan car model and brand with zero support beyond shared maintenance items, you get it easy. I own a 30 year old station wagon with more than a quarter million miles on it and it starts right up and pokes along like it did 3 decades ago.
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Truth. There are definitely some beat to crap cars, but good ones are out there. I just got a 1991 Civic Hatchback with 340k miles on it, and it runs like a champ.  It has a few issues, but this car is brilliant for it's age (and power, 70 hp what?).
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GOD IS BED posted:Truth. There are definitely some beat to crap cars, but good ones are out there. My buddy wanted me to help him find a car because he was new in town and needed a car to, you know, get to work in and use to go to the store, all that. I found him a civic just like that one, $500 bucks (and this was in 2013) and it ran wonderfully and even had A/C working. I went and checked it out, talked with the seller, got everything squared away. Then my buddy went 'nah its too old' and bought a 97 Legacy for $1500 bucks (without seeking my advice that he asked for) that burned and leaked oil, didn't have working A/C and had old tires all around. That overheated on him on the highway and threw a rod. I still mock him constantly for that, stupid stupid move for a car that wasn't nearly as rad as that little Civic.
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20 years old in January! It really is different than owning a 20 year old car when I was in high school 20 years ago. That would likely have been a malaise-era something which would have been 3x the displacement, half the horsepower and fuel economy of the Prelude.   
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Soarers are dope. I nearly acquired one but all I could find were autos. Old Civics are dope (there's a MINT red one owned by an older couple not too far from me that I so desperately want). Old Ludes are dope. Though older ones are dopest. Old Japanese stuff is dope. Buy more old Japanese stuff.
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My friend and roommate for a while had an '83 prelude up until the maybe 2004 or so. My favorite part was in 2001 or 2002 when he needed to replace the clutch. It had been obviously needed for over a year, but he let it go, to the point where he discovered he couldn't park the car (parking brake also shot). We were sitting in our favorite coffee shop and could see the lude outside, and it just... started to roll. "Ben. your car is moving" ... poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo he runs out to the car and is pushing against the hood trying to prevent further movement (if it went 10 feet further it'd roll down a very steep hill. The rest of us were still at our table laughing our assess off when we could hear a desperate COME HELP ME YOU FUCKERS I CAN'T DO THIS from outside. The rest of us came out and assisted him in securing the vehicle. He STILL didn't change the clutch for another 6 months, he was just a lot more careful choosing a parking spot. Same guy is now a literal homeless Motorcycle Vagabond whose entire life is strapped to the back of a 650cc KTM, who earns money for food doing developer work in coffee shops. He's a bit more proactive about vehicle maintenance now. Anyways : Car was fun as hell. preludes were great.
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Nerdrock posted:My friend and roommate for a while had an '83 prelude up until the maybe 2004 or so. My favorite part was in 2001 or 2002 when he needed to replace the clutch. It had been obviously needed for over a year, but he let it go, to the point where he discovered he couldn't park the car (parking brake also shot). We were sitting in our favorite coffee shop and could see the lude outside, and it just... started to roll. "Ben. your car is moving" ... poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo he runs out to the car and is pushing against the hood trying to prevent further movement (if it went 10 feet further it'd roll down a very steep hill. The rest of us were still at our table laughing our assess off when we could hear a desperate COME HELP ME YOU FUCKERS I CAN'T DO THIS from outside. The rest of us came out and assisted him in securing the vehicle. He STILL didn't change the clutch for another 6 months, he was just a lot more careful choosing a parking spot. Same guy is now a literal homeless Motorcycle Vagabond whose entire life is strapped to the back of a 650cc KTM, who earns money for food doing developer work in coffee shops. He's a bit more proactive about vehicle maintenance now. I had a friend in middle and high school whose dad had a 91 Prelude Si and I loved that thing all through school. Then the 5th gen came out and blew my mind. 195hp from a 4 cyl in 1997 was insane to me. I was driving around an 89 civic DX hatch with no tach or passenger side outside mirror (when my mom bought it new the only option she got was AC). I've always loved Honda and I've wanted a 5th generation Prelude since they were introduced. Being able to get a low mile, one owner, all stock Type SH is the fulfillment of my attainable teenage dream.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Did US Preludes not come with hand brakes or something?! I believe he said the parking brake was done for
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Imperador do Brasil posted:I had a friend in middle and high school whose dad had a 91 Prelude Si and I loved that thing all through school. Then the 5th gen came out and blew my mind. 195hp from a 4 cyl in 1997 was insane to me. I was driving around an 89 civic DX hatch with no tach or passenger side outside mirror (when my mom bought it new the only option she got was AC). I've always loved Honda and I've wanted a 5th generation Prelude since they were introduced. Being able to get a low mile, one owner, all stock Type SH is the fulfillment of my attainable teenage dream. I test drove a '92 prelude SI back in 99 or so and it was at that point the sexiest machine i'd ever driven. I'd gone with another friend of mine who'd never driven stick before. We were seniors in HS at the time and general assholes, so I let him try and drive it. He discovered that you CAN accidentally push through 1st gear's shift gate at 40mph. whoopsie. I had a '90 nissan stanza at that time, but went on to replace it with an '86 accord (with 250k miles ON THE ORIGINAL CLUTCH) , and then an '89 accord i sold in '05 that was still on the road as of last year. Shiftgate friend in the lude with me went on to get an 86 civic dx hatch for a while, until upgrading to a '98 accord he wound up putting all sorts of ridiculous body kits and fart can exhausts on. Then the Fast and Furious movies came out and he was the envy of all the local dipshits. edit : and yes. I use handbrake / parking brake / e-brake interchangeably.
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Nerdrock posted:I test drove a '92 prelude SI back in 99 or so and it was at that point the sexiest machine i'd ever driven. I'd gone with another friend of mine who'd never driven stick before. We were seniors in HS at the time and general assholes, so I let him try and drive it. He discovered that you CAN accidentally push through 1st gear's shift gate at 40mph. whoopsie. I had a '90 nissan stanza at that time, but went on to replace it with an '86 accord (with 250k miles ON THE ORIGINAL CLUTCH) , and then an '89 accord i sold in '05 that was still on the road as of last year. Shiftgate friend in the lude with me went on to get an 86 civic dx hatch for a while, until upgrading to a '98 accord he wound up putting all sorts of ridiculous body kits and fart can exhausts on. Then the Fast and Furious movies came out and he was the envy of all the local dipshits. All this Prelude talk reminded me of a conversation I had with my wife the other day. We were talking about how you always notice cars on the road of a specific type more if you drive one yourself, and I haven't seen another late model Prelude on the road since I was in England last summer. I see WRX's and F150's daily but I think I'd freak out lightly if I saw another Prelude. I think they've been mostly lost to the ravages of rust and ricers.
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DJ Commie posted:Owning a 20 year old car now is nothing like owning a 20 year old car 20 years ago. When you're replacing NLA driver FETs and dried up electrolytic capacitors rather than trying to cobble together poo poo from Summit on an orphan car model and brand with zero support beyond shared maintenance items, you get it easy. I own a 30 year old station wagon with more than a quarter million miles on it and it starts right up and pokes along like it did 3 decades ago. I had to replace electrolytic caps on the ECU of my '92 Civic DX hatch this year. It cost me $7.07 in parts from Digikey and an afternoon with a beer and a Hakko. I bet the next decade or so of my life is entirely going to be deals like this, bring on the computer age.
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I can confirm this. I've always noticed 'ludes and over the last decade they've become pretty much extinct in my area. It's a good thing I already have not enough room in the garage for Wife's car, hot rod, and 2 motorcycles (silverado doesn't even fit) , because if i did, i'd jump on stupid poo poo like the first 5th gen i'd see that was available. I say stupid poo poo not to besmirch the vehicle, because it loving owns, it'd be more of a stupid poo poo move for me to purchase one at this point in my life.
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Imperador do Brasil posted:All this Prelude talk reminded me of a conversation I had with my wife the other day. We were talking about how you always notice cars on the road of a specific type more if you drive one yourself, and I haven't seen another late model Prelude on the road since I was in England last summer. I see WRX's and F150's daily but I think I'd freak out lightly if I saw another Prelude. I think they've been mostly lost to the ravages of rust and ricers. I feel like I occasionally seen Preludes (and Celicas) nearer to Philly, but they're universally really beat up. Something like one per month or so. I had two Celicas prior to BMWs, so I tend to notice them, and I pick out the Preludes on the "older Japanese styling" when looking. Yours, or one in similarly great condition, would probably make my head turn. That's just sharp.
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