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LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
Fukc

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Bubba Smith
Sep 27, 2004

Is tonight the greatest moment in Dominick Cruz's life?

No.

The greatest moment in my life was realizing that I didn't need a belt to be happy.

david carmichael posted:

You could just start your water/sodium cycling 9 hours earlier, or arrive in Vegas 9 hours earlier, or start your camp 9 hours earlier. It's not that big of a deal, and lots of people missed weight before early weigh ins. Is there evidence to suggest a higher proportion of fighters are missing weight now, and can we decouple that from usada's increased controls?

As compiled by MMAJunkie‘s Mike Bohn, 21 UFC fighters have missed weight since the early weigh-ins were instituted. By comparison, in the first half of the year just one fighter missed weight under the system previously in place.

It has caused an issue, but I'm not sure if that's the new norm. A lot of those guys will probably adjust for 2017. The first time messed with quite a few guy's weight cuts though

Agreed with the first part about starting your cut 9 hours earlier, but things like arriving at Vegas 9 hours earlier might be out of the fighter's hands. I'm not sure how much involvement UFC fighters have when it comes to arranging when their flights depart.

david carmichael
Oct 28, 2011
Las Vegas only has one arriving flight time.

NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

I.N.R.I posted:

not since willie dee challenged him to chessboxing

cheboxing is hard as hell


Zwachro posted:

fatherdog got himself banned and is not interested in coming back.

drat that sucks he was cool

david carmichael
Oct 28, 2011
Donna, from the travel department, books every flight to arrive at the same time always and on the same day. Which is convenient, because los Vegas,where all fights happen, only has one arrival time.

I.N.R.I
May 26, 2011

david carmichael posted:

Donna, from the travel department, books every flight to arrive at the same time always and on the same day. Which is convenient, because los Vegas,where all fights happen, only has one arrival time.

the next interim title fight will be between boeing 707s 055 and 072 for the right to land first on runway 2 *donna from the travel department makes some wooshing sounds and smashes a couple of toy planes into eachother a bit*

Dr. Abysmal
Feb 17, 2010

We're all doomed

I.N.R.I posted:

Good news ... lando is fighting in ufc 209

I think that's why people are suggesting it, Lando is already on the card and has already made weight. The UFC might be more interested in Michael Johnson though because he's the last one to beat Tony Ferguson. I think the title fight will be totally cancelled though, a lot of guys say they want to step in on Twitter

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

david carmichael posted:

You could just start your water/sodium cycling 9 hours earlier, or arrive in Vegas 9 hours earlier, or start your camp 9 hours earlier. It's not that big of a deal, and lots of people missed weight before early weigh ins. Is there evidence to suggest a higher proportion of fighters are missing weight now, and can we decouple that from usada's increased controls?

I'm not sure that it's that much worse now, we just happened into a very lucky 2016 where all the good fights actually happened and injuries didn't really play as big of a role as they did in 2014 or something.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Novum posted:

In an interview that someone posted Hunt said that his family is who suffers if he doesn't fight and get paid. I think that's a good enough reason to both take a fight and complain about steroid cheaters.

Mark Hunt is right to speak out on what he thinks is wrong even if internet people don't like having to deal with the conversation.

I'm still amazed that anyone thought Lesnar wasn't juiced to the gills. It was obvious in his WWE stuff, doing 10 minute worked matches and he was gassing halfway through while basically just throwing germans.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

willie_dee posted:

The dude has a legit point about fighting people who constantly test positive, including the downright corrupt treatment Brock got in being allowed to compete with a no testing window before hand clause because he signed last minute special circumstances rule. I would be mad as hell as well if I went through some of the wars that he has done only to find out they would of been walk in the parks had the other guy not been cheating and the UFC had not done enough to protect me from that unfair brain damage. Overeem was blatantly roiding, so Mark Hunt has a legit beef.

Everyone Hunt fought before Lesnar was pre-USADA. So why does he keep bringing them up? I understand the frustration over the Lesnar situation; but they NEEDED a big name on that card because Jon Jones is a complete gently caress up so they found a loophole. I get why he has a beef, but CONSTANTLY bringing up the point and being a straight up whiny bitch every interview got old a long time ago to the point of annoyance.

NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

I.N.R.I posted:

the next interim title fight will be between boeing 707s 055 and 072 for the right to land first on runway 2 *donna from the travel department makes some wooshing sounds and smashes a couple of toy planes into eachother a bit*

haha


manyak posted:

Yeah early weigh ins doesnt really mess with the mechanics of the actual weight cut at all, as long as you arrive there a couple days before the fight you have plenty of time to do the actual water cut, the only issue is I'd imagine guys are trying to cut a little extra weight because they think they have more time to rehydrate

i agree with this. Honestly aren't the benefits of early weigh ins outweighing any like 9 hour bullshit difference

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

I.N.R.I posted:

the next interim title fight will be between boeing 707s 055 and 072 for the right to land first on runway 2 *donna from the travel department makes some wooshing sounds and smashes a couple of toy planes into eachother a bit*

Both jets would pop hot for toxic airplane water so it'd be a no contest anyway

I.N.R.I
May 26, 2011

Eat This Glob posted:

Both jets would pop hot for toxic airplane water so it'd be a no contest anyway

i think i heard eddy bravo say something about that on Joe Rogen

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Burt Watson's departure is the confounding factor in this analysis.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
wooo good morning everyone, unless you're from kazakhstan.

handsome only face
Apr 22, 2010

Cockroach went out of the room in anger. And roach's go to empty room...

Cockroache's Anarchist


Ty1990
Apr 22, 2011

Zwachro posted:

fatherdog got himself banned and is not interested in coming back.

Lmao what

Panama Red
Jul 30, 2003

Only in America could you find a way to earn a healthy buck and still keep your attitude on self destruct
And so the AKA pattern continues

Detroit_Dogg
Feb 2, 2008
Aaron Rodgers is gay and lame and oh please cum in me Aaron PLEASE I NEED IT OH STAFFORD YOUR COCK IS NOT WORTHY ONLY THE GAYEST RODGERS PRICK CAN SATISFY MY DESPERATE THROAT

Ty1990 posted:

Lmao what

he posted accurate things and lowtax got mad

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Ty1990 posted:

Lmao what

tl;dr he didn't like that Lowtax gave a safe space to Nazis.

In other news, Robin Black has sliced in twain this controversy's Gordian knot:

https://twitter.com/robinblackmma/status/837772244050857986

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger

Ty1990 posted:

Lmao what
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3806295&pagenumber=10&perpage=40#post468524044

I.N.R.I posted:

i think i heard eddy bravo say something about that on Joe Rogen
'Toxic water' was Nick Diaz: http://www.mmamania.com/2013/3/14/4104542/nick-diaz-explains-no-show-workout-press-conference-needed-sleep-ufc-158-mma

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
So according to that article someone posted, the hospitalisation wasn't related to the weight cut? I guess they saw him in there and went "regardless of these raging hemorrhoids he needs treated, this man is dangerously dehydrated, better IV him up!"

handsome only face
Apr 22, 2010

Cockroach went out of the room in anger. And roach's go to empty room...

Cockroache's Anarchist


I.N.R.I posted:

Take a chill pill
thats a PED

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:
Khabib had to recuse himself from the fight due to possible connections to Russia.

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.
so now we've got a cool mark hunt fight, two squash matches, and a fight i've already seen before.

Power of Pecota
Aug 4, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

CommonShore posted:

In other news, Robin Black has sliced in twain this controversy's Gordian knot:

https://twitter.com/robinblackmma/status/837772244050857986

Has Gabe Ruediger weighed in on this yet?

Work Friend Keven
Oct 24, 2015

I'M A BIG STUPID IDIOT WHO GETS TRIGGERED FROM THE WORDS SPORTS BALL AND HAS SHIT OPINIONS ABOUT CARD GAMES. ALSO I SAID I WAS GOING TO QUIT HEARTHSTONE OUT OF SPITE OF A TAIWANESE WINNING THE CHAMPIONSHIP SO REPORT ME IF YOU SEE ME POST IN A HS THREAD
They call it wait cutting because you've got to spend so much time on it.

Bubba Smith
Sep 27, 2004

Is tonight the greatest moment in Dominick Cruz's life?

No.

The greatest moment in my life was realizing that I didn't need a belt to be happy.

Marching Powder posted:

so now we've got a cool mark hunt fight, two squash matches, and a fight i've already seen before.

still better than 208, at least? v:shobon:v

I do think if they can keep Tony Ferguson on the card it'll be a good one. His fights don't suck

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
https://twitter.com/BloodyElbow/status/837786960676679681

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?


Bummer for El Cucuy, bummer for us since we won't see Ferguson fight either.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

DeimosRising posted:

Provided Khabib doesn't return to the dust from which he came either guy will probably work right back into a title shot within the year when they lose.

Thanks, man.

Sprecherscrow
Dec 20, 2009
I can't believe I let myself get excited for a Khabib fight.

Screama
Nov 25, 2007
Yes, I am very cereal.
This has ruined my whole weekend. Is there any chance of the UFC moving the fight to 210? Assuming Khabib is ok...

eric
Apr 27, 2004
Lipstick Apathy

Eat This Glob posted:

Bummer for El Cucuy, bummer for us since we won't see Ferguson fight either.

They're going to reschedule the fight and if Khabib can't make it the 2nd time Ferguson will fight Conor.

Wild Horses
Oct 31, 2012

There's really no meaning in making beetles fight.
"I hosed guys"

GSP - 2017

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Bisping showed up to the press conference 30 minutes late and completely blasted, yelling poo poo at GSP.

https://twitter.com/MMAFighting/status/837793949519486977

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

NeatHeteroDude posted:

haha


i agree with this. Honestly aren't the benefits of early weigh ins outweighing any like 9 hour bullshit difference

I think it takes some thing like 48 hours to full rehydrate so 9 hours is actually a pretty significant portion of time.

manyak
Jan 26, 2006

Sprecherscrow posted:

I can't believe I let myself get excited for a Khabib fight.

this

manyak
Jan 26, 2006

EmmyOk posted:

I think it takes some thing like 48 hours to full rehydrate so 9 hours is actually a pretty significant portion of time.

Yeah thats a reason in favor of the new weighin rules though

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Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
fuckin bummer

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