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it's me, i'm the guy leaking sensitive government information to the press committing actual serious felonies so i can cheer those sick burns on twitter
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Mnoba posted:it's me, i'm the guy leaking sensitive government information to the press committing actual serious felonies so i can cheer those sick burns on twitter Greetings, which of the 17 intelligence agencies do you work for?
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really queer Christmas posted:Greetings, which of the 17 intelligence agencies do you work for? That we have 17 different intelligence agencies is the most shocking part of the trump-Russia conspiracies to me. why on earth do we have 17?
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SickZip posted:That we have 17 different intelligence agencies is the most shocking part of the trump-Russia conspiracies to me. why on earth do we have 17? One for each tentacle.
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Mar 4, 2017 00:43
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the material isn't classified, it isn't criminal to leak it.
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Nut to Butt posted:lol trump's hosed They forgot 12.5: the totally innocent "target" is fired, resigns, or otherwise runs away
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Knight posted:Really, it's not like everyone suddenly got afraid of Russia and think they're going to steal their children and eat them all of a sudden. Everyone has about the same unfavorable opinion about Russia as they did over the last 5 years...except for Republicans, who are suddenly more favorable towards Putin than they've ever been. lmao what the hell are you talking about? republicans that go on yougov to do polls are apparently also in on the russian conspiracy? do you reckon everybody who identifies as a republican becomes instantly aware of their role to serve the russian motherland lmfao?
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the new wild theory itt is that maybe around half of america sold out to the russians lol evidence includes renown, extremely reliable online polls, that work super good as demonstrated by the recent elections, as well as trump firing some people because cnn said they were traitors e: also this seems like the appropriate thread 
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daang dude calm down, its an opinion poll. i know that spunkys left a big, gaping, void in the thread and maybe youre all about gaping voids but you really dont need to dive in right away to fill it. theres enough crazy floating around hellthread already, trust me
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Mar 4, 2017 04:39
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this is the real reason why spunky screams about bathrooms imo https://twitter.com/vice/status/837826178589274112
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:this is the real reason why spunky screams about bathrooms imo almost as outrageous as that opinion poll that asked republicans whether they were in on the russian conspiracy. that was a pretty weird poll that definitely existed and was a thing that we all talked about. its a pretty crazy world, huh.
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there is nothing wrong about pumping literal eight year old children full of blockers that will stop their normal development with almost no data on long term effects based on the current hipster social paradigm in gender studies
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:there is nothing wrong about pumping literal eight year old children full of blockers that will stop their normal development with almost no data on long term effects based on the current hipster social paradigm in gender studies
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Mar 4, 2017 05:03
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:this is the real reason why spunky screams about bathrooms imo wouldnt that gently caress a bunch of poo poo up body/mind/brain wise? like the whole thing to my knowledge is its kinda of one way street once you go down the transitional road?
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Kjoery posted:believing yourself to be above medical science and the DSM is cool and all, but what im more interested in is hearing your opinion on that poll that phoned up voters in 2015 and asked them "do you believe that your future president donald trump is a russian puppet? press 1 for yes and 2 for no" there is absolutely no debate in medical science about whether this is justified or not. it doesn't exist at all. everybody is joyfully accepting that prepubescent children that might say the non-gender normative stuff sometimes need to get pumped full of hormone blockers
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...somehow I severely doubt that it's actually reversible in the way the tweet is implying. I mean there are critical developmental periods. You don't get to block hormones during one and then remove the block without something not going quite the way it should. Just like using hormone injections to try and force puberty doesn't quite work past a certain age.
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Tallgeese posted:...somehow I severely doubt that it's actually reversible in the way the tweet is implying. most children who get treated with the blocker don't continue to have dysphoria either, so it just ends up delaying puberty for no reason really https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18981931/
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I assume that "don't" is extraneous, and honestly I'm not surprised in any way.
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Mar 4, 2017 05:09
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The president has had all of his wive's enhanced
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:most children who get treated with the blocker don't continue to have dysphoria either, so it just ends up delaying puberty for no reason really thats depressing. i remember watching a doc on trans kids and only half(if that) seemed to have dysphoria, the rest were either sorta forced by the Woke parents or because the kid was going through a phase. i am not against transgender stuff. i just feel like their isnt enough real research on it that doesn't either come from the WOKE left or the hard right. that being said if someone wants to transition and its their descion then its cool. but doing it with super young kids feels skeevy.
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drumpf: "two can play this game" https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/837770149767827456
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:there is absolutely no debate in medical science about whether this is justified or not. it doesn't exist at all. everybody is joyfully accepting that prepubescent children that might say the non-gender normative stuff sometimes need to get pumped full of hormone blockers but going back to how you seem to completely misunderstand what an opinion poll is, maybe you could post another cool meme about it? i absolutely love image macros, they are hilarious and good
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Mar 4, 2017 05:16
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LOL Trump is such a huge baby.
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new phone who dis posted:LOL Trump is such a huge baby. And yet, America is a nation of babies, so...
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:drumpf: "two can play this game" yeah, trump is a moron who projects everything.
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Kjoery posted:sure, and im also sure a tweet by a garbage magazine that got 96 likes is certainly not going to affect it in any way. also, in the mean time, doctors are a thing that can maybe give advice to parents and kids considering transition? perhaps we, as random-rear end civilians with no real specialization in the field are not exactly the ideal policy makers for this sort of thing! I know people like to worship the cult of the expert but let's try and remember that there are still people alive today who were lobotomized under advice from physicians given to parents about their kid. If an adult or even a teen wants to transition that's fine, but there is a WHOLE LOT of gray area involved in taking a toddler's word on drastic life-altering procedures.
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new phone who dis posted:I know people like to worship the cult of the expert but let's try and remember that there are still people alive today who were lobotomized under advice from physicians given to parents about their kid. If an adult or even a teen wants to transition that's fine, but there is a WHOLE LOT of gray area involved in taking a toddler's word on drastic life-altering procedures.
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Kjoery posted:sure, and im also sure a tweet by a garbage magazine that got 96 likes is certainly not going to affect it in any way. also, in the mean time, doctors are a thing that can maybe give advice to parents and kids considering transition? perhaps we, as random-rear end civilians with no real specialization in the field are not exactly the ideal policy makers for this sort of thing! yes there are quite a few doctors against such radical treatment for children, indeed you seem pretty mad and obsessed about me enjoying the ridiculous suggestion that republicans liking putin is somehow related to trumpsters current cabinet troubles, try taking a break
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Kjoery posted:i hear vaccines cause autism. all the experts say otherwise, but remember that there are still people alive today who were lobotomized under advice from physicians given to parents about their kid perhaps we aren't qualified enough to judge whether vaccines do indeed cause autism or not! maybe we should leave these questions to the doctors exclusively, tough luck to you if your local area doctor happens to be andrew wakefield or a follower of his though
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Kjoery posted:i hear vaxinnes cause autism. all the experts say otherwise, but remember that there are still people alive today who were lobotomized under advice from physicians given to parents about their kid The issue of trans kids that young is just as polluted with pseudo-science and activism as the vaccine issue on both sides. The science isn't nearly as clear as you would make it out to be. There's a shitload of money to be made in SRS and hormone therapy for children. The scientific debate is far from over, and the majority of people attempting to suppress studies and research these days come from the left.
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Guys I don't think Trump is hosed. This is very unsettling.
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Kjoery posted:i hear vaccines cause autism. all the experts say otherwise, but remember that there are still people alive today who were lobotomized under advice from physicians given to parents about their kid Here's a good article to read if you actually care beyone forums flame wars. http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/02/fight-over-trans-kids-got-a-researcher-fired.html
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new phone who dis posted:The issue of trans kids that young is just as polluted with pseudo-science and activism as the vaccine issue on both sides. The science isn't nearly as clear as you would make it out to be. There's a shitload of money to be made in SRS and hormone therapy for children. The scientific debate is far from over, and the majority of people attempting to suppress studies and research these days come from the left. Bulgogi Hoagie posted:you seem pretty mad
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Kjoery posted:im not saying the issue isnt clear, im saying that to discard expert knowledge because its a political issue is dumb and bad. its a complex issue that deals with many factors that you and i dont fully comprehend. climate change comes to mind, in terms of people discarding science for politics, though that issue is far more cut-and-dry scientifically. just because you're dumb doesn't mean you need to project onto everybody else my man boy this sure is a change compared to you literally saying i'm denying medical science if i say there is no clear consensus in the field though e: not to mention of course that nobody fully comprehends exactly how reproduction functions especially wrt your headcase
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:literally saying i'm denying medical science if i say there is no clear consensus in the field though new phone who dis posted:Here's a good article to read if you actually care beyone forums flame wars. crime weed fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Mar 4, 2017 |
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meanwhile at the intercept https://theintercept.com/2017/02/28/trump-suggests-anti-semitic-acts-might-faked-make-movement-look-bad/ e: also that vice tweet is just promotional material for their transgender documentary fyi
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Kjoery posted:hmm yes i "literally" said that, yes Eh, we're probably pretty close on this issue, then.
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new phone who dis posted:Eh, we're probably pretty close on this issue, then.
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Kjoery posted:hmm yes i "literally" said that, yes as i said the tweet is just promotional material for their transgender docudrama thing, and vice as you may know produces docudramas about things that usually shock people, and that tweet was deffo intended to shock you. but instead you decided to pick a side and launch a knee jerk defence of that side in a topic you yourself admit you know almost nothing about lol
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Kjoery posted:yea, id personally be extremely cautious about treating my kid (that will never exist) with hormones unless a doctor specifically advised me to do so. also, id never advise or pressure a parent to do so either, but thats mainly because im not a medical professional. thats kinda their job. Even if a medical professional advised me to do it I would definitely be looking for more opinions considering the politicizing of the issue and relative new state of the science. The younger the kid is, the more vigilant and exploratory I would be for other opinions.
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