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Ken Holland is a leathery-faced jackanape with the IQ of a dish sponge
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shyduck posted:The team with the longest playoff streak in league history that's about to miss the playoffs wants more playoff teams now, shocker
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Mar 6, 2017 18:35
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add in a play-in game but make it so it only happens as the first tiebraker when 8th and 9tb are tied in points
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Mar 6, 2017 18:36
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Spring Break My Heart posted:They still wouldn't make it, and the divisional stuff is bizarre to bring up in that discussion. I think the divisional thing is more pointing towards teams who are going to want to tank to get the WC1 spot since the Atlantic is a mess.
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Mar 6, 2017 18:39
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Honestly, from a business standpoint it makes more sense. Just like the loser point. Make a bad team seem competitive so a casual fan has a rooting interest because they have theoretical chance. Adding a play in game does this just as well. (It's a terrible fuckin idea from a hockey fan's perspective but if you wanna argue dollars, it puts more money in everyone's pockets. I know this as someone who experienced this phenomenon by being Pittsburgh Pirate fan adjacent for the past 5 years.)
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So the Atlantic is the new Southeast Division
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Here's a question that's being generated: why do we have these dumbfuck divisional playoffs I'll take my answer off air
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Mar 6, 2017 18:43
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Powershift posted:Alberta is gonna have 2 teams in the playoffs. gently caress, the pacific division sucks.
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Mar 6, 2017 18:44
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shyduck posted:So the Atlantic is the new Southeast Division This year, yeah. I don't think anyone predicted Tampa Bay to fall as hard as they did and the fancy cats are still hurting, neither of which helps things. Buffalo's still in patient rebuild form and had Eichel out for a while. Detroit is a 100% disaster.
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You are the 3-4th best team in the league, congrats, you get to play the 2nd best team in the league because gently caress you.
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Mar 6, 2017 18:46
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I think it would be cool to keep the divisions, but bring back 1-8 playoff seeding.
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Mar 6, 2017 18:49
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Scrap the divisional playoffs, they're awful and incredibly confusing. I'm a devoted hockey fan and I even get who's going to play who mixed up occasionally when I look at the standings.
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Mar 6, 2017 18:51
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I'd be okay with giving each division winner 1 and 2, or even keeping the divisional playoff if we have to but only guaranteeing the top 2 and having 4 wildcard teams, but this poo poo we have right now is loving terrible
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Mar 6, 2017 18:52
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Putting Detroit in the east and fixing up who's in what division seemed to fix a lot of the problems from beforehand, like Detroit playing a playoff game at 11PM eastern time because it's against LA. At this point I don't see why you need the divisional round.
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Mar 6, 2017 18:52
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Apparently the WIngs called up Rob Russo. Good numbers in AHL. Thoughts, Wings fans?
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Mar 6, 2017 18:53
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If they're going to keep divisional playoffs get rid of the wildcards, a team from the Central winning the Pacific playoff is dumb and bad. But then you get really bad teams in the playoffs sometimes so I dunno.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Apparently the WIngs called up Rob Russo. Good numbers in AHL. Thoughts, Wings fans? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTnq268y2ms
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Mar 6, 2017 18:56
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Captain Internet posted:Honestly, from a business standpoint it makes more sense. Just like the loser point. Make a bad team seem competitive so a casual fan has a rooting interest because they have theoretical chance. Adding a play in game does this just as well.
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Whatever it takes to get rid of the Metropolitan slaughterhouse playoff bracket is what I want.
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Mar 6, 2017 18:56
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Cookies brought this up in the discord, why not just say a divisional lead means you're guaranteed a spot in the playoffs, but not a seed?
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Mar 6, 2017 18:57
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The divisional playoff system is atrocious and should be regarded as a total failure.
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Mar 6, 2017 18:58
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DJExile posted:Cookies brought this up in the discord, why not just say a divisional lead means you're guaranteed a spot in the playoffs, but not a seed? I think a divisional winner should be guaranteed a first round home playoff series, but that's about it. I doubt we're ever going to see a scenario where the entire Metropolitan knocks the Atlantic out of the playoffs, thus necessitating them needing a guaranteed spot. If the division winner is the 5th or 6th best team, just give them the 4 seed and make them host the team that should be 4th.
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Mar 6, 2017 19:02
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Division winner should be guaranteed a playoff spot, but not necessarily a 1/2 spot. All playoff spots are filled in by point order. If you want a wildcard spot, playing the 8/9 teams, whatever. Don't care. (Though if would be funny for an 8th seed division winner to get booted by a team from a stronger division lol). Also, give us 3 point regulation win. C'mon, NHL. Seriously.
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Mar 6, 2017 19:03
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Just bring back 1-8 seeds, with a preference of slots 1+2 being the top of each division. even if you want top 4 slots to be the top 2 in each division, I wouldn't like it but it would still be better than the current setup.
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Mar 6, 2017 19:17
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How often do the GMs meet? If they do after the end of the playoffs (i'm assuming they would) then i could see season/playoff-altering decisions made at that point. Trying to decide on those items when you're 1 month from the playoffs would be a huge mess.
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Mar 6, 2017 19:19
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There was nothing wrong with the old system at all.
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Mar 6, 2017 19:20
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Get rid of the playoffs and award the Stanley Cup to the best regular season team. Retroactively apply this new rule from, say, 2009-10 until now. Signed, A (soon to be 3-time Stanley Cup Champion) Washington Capitals fan
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Mar 6, 2017 19:21
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Get rid of the regular season too. Just award the Cup to the team analysts think is the best on paper.
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Mar 6, 2017 19:24
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Even though this would never happen nowadays, I'd love for the NHL to go back to having the top 16 teams in the league make it, regardless of conference/division. Then 1 faces 16, 2 faces 15, etc.
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Mar 6, 2017 19:24
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3 point game wins, 2 points win in OT (1 point to loser), 1 point win in shootout (0 points to loser) imo. Regulation wins as tie breaker, then ROW. Division lead gets guaranteed playoff spot, but no more divisional playoffs. Everything is wildcard otherwise. Fake edit and half jokingly: And bottom teams that don't get to the playoffs have a loser bracket to determine who gets the best draft pick order. No more worst teams always getting the best picks.
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Mar 6, 2017 19:28
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Kilza posted:Even though this would never happen nowadays, I'd love for the NHL to go back to having the top 16 teams in the league make it, regardless of conference/division. Then 1 faces 16, 2 faces 15, etc. They could do this if they scraped conferences and had like 5 or 6 free-standing divisions that are created geographically and then used their improved scheduling matrix to cut down on back-to-backs during the regular season to let team "save up" travel for the playoffs This idea, though modeled for the NBA, would be the best alignment/playoff structure that any sport in North America would have: http://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nba/2014/11/26/7280545/nba-schedule-reform-regions-map-playoffs
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Mar 6, 2017 19:30
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Kilza posted:Even though this would never happen nowadays, I'd love for the NHL to go back to having the top 16 teams in the league make it, regardless of conference/division. Then 1 faces 16, 2 faces 15, etc. Oh man this would be a hoot
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Mind_Taker posted:Get rid of the playoffs and award the Stanley Cup to the best regular season team. Retroactively apply this new rule from, say, 2009-10 until now. Completely regardless of the Caps' many Regular Season ChampionshipsTM, following the EPL for the last few years has made me appreciate how dumb it is that we have these teams play 82 games and then throw most of that out and say, okay but now it's for real.
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Mar 6, 2017 19:31
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glynnenstein posted:Completely regardless of the Caps' many Regular Season ChampionshipsTM, following the EPL for the last few years has made me appreciate how dumb it is that we have these teams play 82 games and then throw most of that out and say, okay but now it's for real. Yeah the EPL is fun to watch but gently caress if I can ever make sense of the table and when things count/don't count.
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Mar 6, 2017 19:32
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Mind_Taker posted:Get rid of the playoffs and award the Stanley Cup to the best regular season team. Retroactively apply this new rule from, say, 2009-10 until now. I'm on board.
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Mar 6, 2017 19:35
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A straight-up league seeding would give us this as of right now: Toronto vs. Washington, Isles vs. Wild, Nashville vs. Chicago, Boston vs CBJ, Ottawa vs. Pittsburgh, Calgary vs. NYR, Anaheim vs. San Jose, and Edmonton vs. Montreal. Not gonna lie, that would own.
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DJExile posted:A straight-up league seeding would give us this as of right now: gently caress it, I'm on board
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glynnenstein posted:Completely regardless of the Caps' many Regular Season ChampionshipsTM, following the EPL for the last few years has made me appreciate how dumb it is that we have these teams play 82 games and then throw most of that out and say, okay but now it's for real. The playoff/elimination tournament is ubiquitous in North American sports because of just how profitable and easy to market it is. You have one, or a series of winner takes all games that will draw masses of viewers due to their significance and are as a result very easy to charge a premium to advertisers. The issue with the league format determining a seasonal champion is that the result is almost never decided by a single game, and quite often a winner is determined with several weeks to go makes a bunch at the end somewhat irrelevant. There's nothing you can point at before the season as something guaranteed to happen that will have a giant audience and big consequences. Soccer can get around it by having its marquee teams go head to head in domestic leagues, but I'm sure the accountants would love to introduce a playoffs if they could (although they won't because there would be a fan revolt and another break away league like the EPL). The Champion's League Final is now the target for sponsors because it's the only single elimination, best on best club match out there. Hell, the domestic leagues are largely secondary to that in significance these days with teams aiming to do the double/triple each season rather than caring just about winning the league. And honestly, the playoffs are way cooler than the title race in soccer and I say that as a giant Manchester United/EPL fan.
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Mind_Taker posted:Get rid of the playoffs and award the Stanley Cup to the best regular season team. Retroactively apply this new rule from, say, 2009-10 until now. For that to work, all the teams would have to play each other an equal amount of times.
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