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System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

Shbobdb posted:

In the spirit of bipartisanship, I'd like to
recuse myself from further Renaissance-era shitposting in this thread.

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Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



Why the heck did he list 'a herring' twice?

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Because it's a list for multiple days, and you don't want to store fresh fish for too long without a fridge if you can help it.

Also team salami FTW.

pidan
Nov 6, 2012


He'd probably have told his illiterate servant what to get, and the picture list is more of a memo than an instruction. So the servant in the market thinks "wait, did he say he wants bread?", looks at his paper, sees four blobs and yeah, that's the bread.

bean_shadow
Sep 27, 2005

If men had uteruses they'd be called duderuses.

Samovar posted:

Why the heck did he list 'a herring' twice?

One to eat and the other to cut down the largest tree in the forrest.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

:perfect:

Thank you for making my morning.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




FreudianSlippers posted:

Being a huge douche was integral to being a renaissance genius.

I think it was more integral to being Michelangelo. All the other renaissance geniuses seems kinda chill.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

Alhazred posted:

I think it was more integral to being Michelangelo. All the other renaissance geniuses seems kinda chill.

I thought it was Raphael who was cool, but rude?

Take the plunge! Okay!
Feb 24, 2007



Alhazred posted:

I think it was more integral to being Michelangelo. All the other renaissance geniuses seems kinda chill.

Someone hasn't read Cellini's autobiography.

NLJP
Aug 26, 2004


Take the plunge! Okay! posted:

Someone hasn't read Cellini's autobiography.

And if you haven't you should.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
Just a reminder that Cellini's autobiography features a demon summoning ritual inside the Colosseum that goes wrong and is solved when someone shits their trousers.

Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)

PYF Historical Fun Fact: I thought it was Raphael who was cool, but rude?

Mods, I beg of you.

Abongination
Aug 18, 2010

Life, it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come.
Pillbug
Adding to plane ramming chat but phone posting so doing it from memory.
Ramming did become one of the only viable method for bringing down heavy American bombers that were roaming over Europe with impunity towards the end of world war II.

A specific unit was created for this very task and were outfitted with specialised bf109s with a supercharged engine and only a single machine gun for defence. The idea was you'd approach the bomber formations from behind and above/below while firing before bailing out at the last minute and parachuting to safety.

The men chosen to undertake this task and were often the most fanatical of the Luftwaffe pilots left alive, this often meant they were the youngest and not trained to a high degree so the results were not fantastic.

The pilots in these units considered themselves modern day knights to a degree and and believed they would go to Valhalla for dying a warriors death, they were also hopped up on Nazi amphetamines which might have contributed to some of the wackier beliefs.

*edit - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderkommando_Elbe

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mod saas
May 4, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Abongination posted:

The pilots in these units considered themselves modern day knights to a degree and and believed they would go to Valhalla for dying a warriors death, they were also hopped up on Nazi amphetamines which might have contributed to some of the wackier beliefs.

so fury road but in the sky

Abongination
Aug 18, 2010

Life, it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come.
Pillbug
Anyone interested in ww2 plane chat should do themselves a favour and pick up a copy of :

"Masters of the Air: America's Bomber Boys Who Fought the Air War Against Nazi Germany"

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
The whole drug situation in ww2 is equal parts hilarious and terrifying. Especially the experiment with the one man submarines and the claustrophobic cold turkey men they crammed inside them.

Your Gay Uncle
Feb 16, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Samovar posted:

Why the heck did he list 'a herring' twice?

Maybe the first one was a red herring.

catfry
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth

Arcsquad12 posted:

The whole drug situation in ww2 is equal parts hilarious and terrifying. Especially the experiment with the one man submarines and the claustrophobic cold turkey men they crammed inside them.

Talk more.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



Your Gay Uncle posted:

Maybe the first one was a red herring.

Nice.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Captain Terence O'Neill, the last prime minister of Northern Ireland, served in parliament for 24 years, six of them as prime minister, and in that time faced a grand total of one competitive election, which he almost lost (to Ian Paisley).

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Why did the Russians go with a derivative of Caesar instead of Basileus for Czar?

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
The first Czar was in the 18th century, during the enlightenment when Rome fetishism was at peak revival. Peter the great so badly wanted to be taken seriously by Europe that he adopted a lot of western customs. It would make sense he would take the title of the Western Roman Emperor.

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Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
That works.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
I will add I messed up and while Peter was the first emperor, he wasn't the first tzar, who was Ivan IV, who wanted to show he was powerful enough to challenge the Byzantine emperor and the khans, so he used a different name "on par" with those.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

catfry posted:

Talk more.

Look up the history of Pervitin, a combat stimulant the Germans used in WW2 based on methamphetamine. The documentary High Hitler has got a lot of crazy anecdotes. One of them involves a company of soldiers on the Eastern Front coming down with the shakes as they ran out of drugs. They thought they were under attack by Russians, fired off all their ammunition into the darkness, and then the Russians rolled up the next day and captured them all without a fight.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

Arcsquad12 posted:

Look up the history of Pervitin, a combat stimulant the Germans used in WW2 based on methamphetamine.

"Pervitin" isn't a stimulant based on methamphetamine. It is a brand name for methamphetamine. Similar to how "Heroin" is the Bayer Brand name for diamorphine.

Shibby0709
Oct 30, 2011

one fat looking fat guy

RagnarokAngel posted:

I will add I messed up and while Peter was the first emperor, he wasn't the first tzar, who was Ivan IV, who wanted to show he was powerful enough to challenge the Byzantine emperor and the khans, so he used a different name "on par" with those.

Actually Simeon I of Bulgaria was the first monarch to use the term Tsar, way back in the 10th century. His victorious warring with the Byzantines got them to grant him the title as a diplomatic concession. He received the junior rank of Caesar, "Tsar", technically remaining below the rank of the one true basileus.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
So what ever happened to good old "wanax"? Were the Byzantines too cool for Homer?

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Potatoes and dairy, actually. Potatoes don't have everything but are pretty close. Technically potatoes and dairy doesn't have absolutely everything you need either but your body can make whatever else it needs out of what those things provide. You'll have to eat something else a bit to get molybdenum but generally potatoes can provide drat near everything you need if you eat a bunch of them. Apparently in Ireland, after the potato showed up, the average Irishman's diet was a bunch of potatoes, some milk, a bit of oatmeal, and sometimes some salted fish. They were described as "healthy and good-looking" so they must have been thriving on it. Until the famine, anyway. You can survive for quite a while with just potatoes but for long-term, normal lifespan survival you need other things but potatoes and dairy is drat near enough.

So yeah potatoes are pretty drat good food, so long as you eat the skin. That's where all the micro nutrients are.

This is why poutine is a superfood and literally the best thing ever.

Whooping Crabs
Apr 13, 2010

Sorry for the derail but I fuckin love me some racoons

Tasteful Dickpic posted:

PYF Historical Fun Fact: I thought it was Raphael who was cool, but rude?

Mods, I beg of you.

Caravaggio was a party dude

cash crab
Apr 5, 2015

all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology


Tasteful Dickpic posted:

PYF Historical Fun Fact: I thought it was Raphael who was cool, but rude?

Mods, I beg of you.

ask and ye shall receive

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




This is something that Doyle wrote to his friend Houdini after a visit:

Arthur Conan Doyle posted:

Just a line to say how much we enjoyed our short visit yesterday. I think what interested me most was the ‘trick’ you showed us in the cab. You certainly have the most wonderful powers, whether inborn or acquired.
What was this amazing trick? Houdini removed his thumb in front of a stunned Doyle.

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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Doyle, as a spiritualist, believed that Houdini's anti-fraud activism (in which he exposed tricks used by charlatans and dishonest magicians) was a ploy to hide from the public the genuinely supernatural character of his own powers. For instance he thought Houdini could phase through solid objects such as walls. He also believed in fairies.

AriadneThread
Feb 17, 2011

The Devil sounds like smoke and honey. We cannot move. It is too beautiful.


steinrokkan posted:

Doyle, as a spiritualist, believed that Houdini's anti-fraud activism (in which he exposed tricks used by charlatans and dishonest magicians) was a ploy to hide from the public the genuinely supernatural character of his own powers. For instance he thought Houdini could phase through solid objects such as walls. He also believed in fairies.

the creator of the great detective

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
gently caress man, I just hope at some point Houdini threw up his hands at trying to convince him that he wasn't magic, and then started loving with Doyle.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

AriadneThread posted:

the creator of the great detective

Doyle was interested in the supernatural and occult (as was popular in high society in the late Victorian and Edwardian eras) while he was writing Holmes but became full-bore spiritualist in 1916 partly as a reaction to the violence and destruction of the First World War. He went so far as to write a story in which the ultra-rationalist Professor Challenger converted to spiritualism so he would have a medium to explain his beliefs.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Wheat Loaf posted:

Doyle was interested in the supernatural and occult (as was popular in high society in the late Victorian and Edwardian eras) while he was writing Holmes but became full-bore spiritualist in 1916 partly as a reaction to the violence and destruction of the First World War. He went so far as to write a story in which the ultra-rationalist Professor Challenger converted to spiritualism so he would have a medium to explain his beliefs.
If this religion is good enough for Dan Aykroyd it's good enough for me.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Nessus posted:

If this religion is good enough for Dan Aykroyd it's good enough for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKqjIv91Zx8

NorgLyle
Sep 20, 2002

Do you think I posted to this forum because I value your companionship?

I always imagine it must have really bummed Houdini out to meet Doyle and realize "Oh... this guy's just some rube."

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Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
Pushkin, a great Russian poet, hid in a closet in his childhood to observe the visit of a poet he admired. He expected the poet to say something profound, but the poet just asked where the bathroom was.

Never meet your heroes.

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