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lightrook posted:To be fair, there are a decent number of snakes, skinks, and caecilians that are noodle-shaped and live underground digging tunnels; most people don't think of them because we don't see them because they live, y'know, underground. The bifurcated neck is a pretty serious design flaw for a tunnel-digging animal, though, although Dugtrio somehow managed with three? Blatantly ripping off Charizard's head is inexcusable, though. I tried looking up burrowing and digging snakes, but all of the ones that I could find much information on just invaded other nests. What species actually digs around underground?
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turn off the TV posted:I tried looking up burrowing and digging snakes, but all of the ones that I could find much information on just invaded other nests. What species actually digs around underground? Those tiny snake-worm things with needle teeth burrow in soil. I recall reading that some glass lizards (legless lizards) do too.
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Mar 6, 2017 16:47
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Simply Simon posted:poor freckles thought of ants and died
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Mar 6, 2017 17:19
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sleepy.eyes posted:Those tiny snake-worm things with needle teeth burrow in soil. I recall reading that some glass lizards (legless lizards) do too. After reading some more about blind snakes and worm lizards I still can't find any reference to them actually digging through anything other than top soil, besides one species of worm lizard that still has legs. From the sounds of it they all more or less invade the tunnels of other species capable of digging.
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Mar 6, 2017 17:26
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Wait, that seashell looks familiar...  A lot of the decent looking pixel art such as tilesets look strangely familiar as well, I'm guessing they didn't discriminate non-pokemon games to "borrow" from. e: after a cursory google search because I'm curious what other assets they might've cribbed from random games there seems to be a person over on imgur who claims Uranium stole their sprites/designs. Not sure how credible that is though. v  vI played Uranium way back when an incomplete demo came out years ago. I tried playing it again when they released the final version but my save got corrupted and wiped which apparently is a bug that happens if you save in a certain spot. Loops fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Mar 6, 2017 |
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Johnny Joestar posted:hell, even sage has a pokemon line that ends up being kinda the same idea as steelix, but at least it looks actually decent and the game's pokedex has over 200 original pokemon with none from the actual games The final form very strongly reminds me of the penultimate boss of Chrono Cross.
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Mar 6, 2017 17:51
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sleepy.eyes posted:Those tiny snake-worm things with needle teeth burrow in soil. I recall reading that some glass lizards (legless lizards) do too. Are you talking about caecilians? They're amphibians, not reptiles or any sort of annelid or other worm.
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Mar 6, 2017 22:16
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dancingbears posted:Are you talking about caecilians? They're amphibians, not reptiles or any sort of annelid or other worm. I guess I am? I just dug one of them up a little while ago and haven't done any real research. I only know glass lizards(the Floridian ones anyhow) burrow for the same reason.
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Mar 6, 2017 22:22
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EclecticTastes posted:So it's managing to rip off Dugtrio, Doduo, and Charizard. Impressive! Johnny Joestar posted:hell, even sage has a pokemon line that ends up being kinda the same idea as steelix, but at least it looks actually decent and the game's pokedex has over 200 original pokemon with none from the actual games
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Mar 6, 2017 22:27
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turn off the TV posted:I tried looking up burrowing and digging snakes, but all of the ones that I could find much information on just invaded other nests. What species actually digs around underground? Blind snakes are real snakes and burrow underground, and apparently dwarf boas do the same, too. You're right though, snakes aren't much for burrowing because their delicate, flexible skulls make poor shovels.
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Mar 6, 2017 23:30
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lightrook posted:Blind snakes are real snakes and burrow underground, and apparently dwarf boas do the same, too. You're right though, snakes aren't much for burrowing because their delicate, flexible skulls make poor shovels. Blind snakes stick primarily to lighter top soil, from what I've read. Terland's sprite looks more like it burrows deeper underground, which I guess it would have to since it looks huge. I don't have a problem with a ground type pokemon being a snake, especially since a lot of ground types aren't supposed to really dig at all. I don't really get why they decided to go for it, but I don't get most of this game's designs. At least it made me learn about some weird rear end snakes and lizards.
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Mar 6, 2017 23:42
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Burrowing seems like a terrible idea for a snake with two heads, considering the force of the dirt would be placed squarely between it's two necks
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lightrook posted:Blind snakes are real snakes and burrow underground, and apparently dwarf boas do the same, too. You're right though, snakes aren't much for burrowing because their delicate, flexible skulls make poor shovels. Blind snakes are basically carnivorous worms, and there are massive numbers of them around the world in areas that are warm enough Danaru posted:Burrowing seems like a terrible idea for a snake with two heads, considering the force of the dirt would be placed squarely between it's two necks yeah, a poor choice here
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get that OUT of my face posted:Terlard (hell of a name, by the way... seems like a combination of "terlet" and "lard") Great, now all I can think of is a crossover between Pokemon Uranium and the 30 Days of Abe Owns thread "fell on a terlard ):"
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mandatory lesbian posted:i can't wait to see how baashuns evolution ruins its actually decent design I like the stage 2 the best. Stage 3 feels unnecessary, as does its- oops, spoilers.
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Mar 7, 2017 02:24
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Antivehicular posted:Great, now all I can think of is a crossover between Pokemon Uranium and the 30 Days of Abe Owns thread Duodick [with a cardboard box over each of his heads]: computer run program sigma alpha six, of a girlard who can look at me without spontaneously developing an pokemon uranium official forums account on the spot. engage
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Mar 7, 2017 02:40
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Not that I don't mostly agree with the opinions on the actual design of the new fakemons we've seen so far, but are we really trying to complain about the feasibility of a two-headed snake pokemon somehow tunneling? In a world where Garchomp the "flies faster than a jet aircraft" exists?
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Mar 7, 2017 04:16
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The fact that it's heads are literally just Charizard but with a spot of rocks bug me a little bit.
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Lord Koth posted:Not that I don't mostly agree with the opinions on the actual design of the new fakemons we've seen so far, but are we really trying to complain about the feasibility of a two-headed snake pokemon somehow tunneling? In a world where Garchomp the "flies faster than a jet aircraft" exists? This game doesn't deserve mercy 
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Mar 7, 2017 04:20
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usually the burrowing pokemon actually look like things that would be able to burrow, so mostly my question is why the two-headed charizard snake needs to dig through dirt
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Mar 7, 2017 04:23
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Johnny Joestar posted:usually the burrowing pokemon actually look like things that would be able to burrow, so mostly my question is why the two-headed charizard snake needs to dig through dirt To hide it's shameful existence.
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Mar 7, 2017 04:25
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After all this talk about burrowing snakes, I'm just imagining Duodick acting like the spider from this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLw-9dpHtcU
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Mar 7, 2017 04:56
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Johnny Joestar posted:usually the burrowing pokemon actually look like things that would be able to burrow, so mostly my question is why the two-headed charizard snake needs to dig through dirt Not really, unless you think things like Diglet, Garchomp and Onix look like diggers.
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Mar 7, 2017 05:04
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WarpedLichen posted:Not really, unless you think things like Diglet, Garchomp and Onix look like diggers. diglet looks like a weird mole thing so there's no reason why it can't. it's pretty much a perfect example of the pokemon aesthetic taken to a simple end. garchomp is the final evolution of a line that starts out living in caverns and eventually learns to fly due to being a dragon, so i don't care all too much if the final form is focused more on being some goofy jet thing since gamefreak seems to love dragon lines that do weird metamorphosis crap why wouldn't onix be able to burrow? if the uranium creator wanted to make a digging snake thing then they could have at least not made it literally look like a a couple of charizard heads on a red snake with two tails. it's like a weird, off-brand version of diglet/dugtrio that gains more heads as it levels but seems to make even less sense than the weird mole thing whose underside has never been seen before in the decades of pokemon existing. mostly it just seems lazy, which i think is the worst thing about it more or less. hell, the first form makes more sense even if it's also boring.
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turn off the TV posted:I tried looking up burrowing and digging snakes, but all of the ones that I could find much information on just invaded other nests. What species actually digs around underground? Theres a breed called the western hognose that likes to burrow. It even has a little upturned snout to help it dig! They also flatten their neck like a cobra when threatened and even play dead sometimes. Cool little snake
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Lord Koth posted:In a world where Garchomp the "flies faster than a jet aircraft" exists? Reminder that the normal Pokedex entries are implicitly written in-universe by actual children. They're intentional games of ridiculous one-upsmanship hence why things like that or Slugma being hotter than the surface of the Sun are listed.
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Mar 7, 2017 07:39
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WarpedLichen posted:Not really, unless you think things like Diglet, Garchomp and Onix look like diggers. diglet and onix are long cylindrical pokemon, so yeah they're both copying the burrowing animal body plan very well! garchomp doesn't look like a burrower but it's arms with the wings could theoretically be used as a shovel so as long as it's just digging shallowly so eh whatever i'll let it pass
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Dragonatrix posted:Reminder that the normal Pokedex entries are implicitly written in-universe by actual children. They're intentional games of ridiculous one-upsmanship hence why things like that or Slugma being hotter than the surface of the Sun are listed. If this was implied before, it got thrown out completely in Sun and Moon. A few NPCs treat it as a reliable resource.
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mandatory lesbian posted:diglet and onix are long cylindrical pokemon, so yeah they're both copying the burrowing animal body plan very well! I'm just still marveling at how stupid the name Terlard is, it's just brain-dead designing a name for something by mashing up 2 terms related to what it is ("Terra Lizard") and then not regarding at all how the combination actually sounds. Terlard would be a much better name for a fat lizard snorlax creature, if anything.
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Bluhman posted:The head is at least, but for all we know Diglett could be a gigantic drill or some kind of mole-like body beneath the dome head. So far the names in this game are remarkably terrible. Like this guy thinks that portmanteaus are the height of cleverness, and he doesn't have to do anything besides throw two relevant words together any old way and he's got a perfectly good name. Names are tricky, I am absolutely terrible at coming up with names, but this dude is the worst at names.
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It's always struck me as a sorely missed opporunity that there isn't a fighting type sheep called rampage.
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Dr. Fetus posted:If this was implied before, it got thrown out completely in Sun and Moon. A few NPCs treat it as a reliable resource. It should be noted that your character has a Rotom for a Pokedex. No idea what the NPCs might have as their source.
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Dr. Fetus posted:If this was implied before, it got thrown out completely in Sun and Moon. A few NPCs treat it as a reliable resource. A few people in real life treat Wikipedia as a reliable resource, too.
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Crazy Achmed posted:It's always struck me as a sorely missed opporunity that there isn't a fighting type sheep called rampage. I had a Fakemon idea based on sheep once: Shearlock (Detective sheep!) Watchson (Wooly sheepdog) Moribaaty/Moribaaddy (evil Black sheep) There was also Baadler, but that reused the joke. Yeah, it's pretty dumb. XD
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Dr. Fetus posted:If this was implied before, it got thrown out completely in Sun and Moon. A few NPCs treat it as a reliable resource. I've heard people reference the "It was written by children!" thing before but I've never seen an actual source for it in a Pokemon game, so I've always assumed it was just fanon people were taking as truth.
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silversatyr posted:There was also Baadler, but that reused the joke. Yeah, it's pretty dumb. XD Needs to be immune to  Ace of Aces posted:I've heard people reference the "It was written by children!" thing before but I've never seen an actual source for it in a Pokemon game, so I've always assumed it was just fanon people were taking as truth. It's a cheap, off-the-cuff explanation as to why pokedex entries can be contradictory or downright violate every known law of physics. In other words, it's people overthinking the lore and expecting it to be coherent.
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Begemot posted:So far the names in this game are remarkably terrible. Like this guy thinks that portmanteaus are the height of cleverness, and he doesn't have to do anything besides throw two relevant words together any old way and he's got a perfectly good name. The fakemon designs that stick in my head the most are Icetope and Chillnobyl from Pokemon Sage. Radioactive slugs/snails, Ice/Poison. As off-colour a joke at it is, Icetope is a brilliant pun. It'd even fit well in Uranium
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Paul.Power posted:The fakemon designs that stick in my head the most are Icetope and Chillnobyl from Pokemon Sage. Radioactive slugs/snails, Ice/Poison. As off-colour a joke at it is, Icetope is a brilliant pun. Having strong puns is 90+% of Pokemon design anyway.
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Mar 7, 2017 12:29
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Watagator, water/poison Gharial pokemon
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Paul.Power posted:The fakemon designs that stick in my head the most are Icetope and Chillnobyl from Pokemon Sage. Radioactive slugs/snails, Ice/Poison. As off-colour a joke at it is, Icetope is a brilliant pun. Those aren't bad names/concepts for fan pokemon. Considering pokemon follow the logic of "Blue=Water or Ice" and cherenkov radiation is supposed to glow blue, Ice/Poison actually works for a "nuclear pokemon". Plus the puns aren't bad.
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