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Vox Nihili posted:The funny thing is that for almost any given gun control measure, a solid majority of Americans will actually support enactment as safe and sane. But somehow it doesn't matter, they are still "gun people" and vote for pro-gun politicians. I mean, someone might be pro-pancake production, but they're not gonna enlist in a war to defend their buttery soft goodness, theres limits to how far people will support Thing, and the limit for pro-control is hilariously low.
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Neurolimal posted:I mean, someone might be pro-pancake production, but they're not gonna enlist in a war to defend their buttery soft goodness, theres limits to how far people will support Thing, and the limit for pro-control is hilariously low. My point is that they vote for politicians who oppose all gun control, including the mild measures that the voters themselves (allegedly) actually support. So it's like they believe in limited pancake production, but always vote for the guy who believes pancakes are actually the devil and will pour all of our taxes into subsidizing waffle production just to show how much he hates pancakes.
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Vox Nihili posted:My point is that they vote for politicians who oppose all gun control, including the mild measures that the voters themselves (allegedly) actually support. So it's like they believe in limited pancake production, but always vote for the guy who believes pancakes are actually the devil and will pour all of our taxes into subsidizing waffle production just to show how much he hates pancakes. Maybe that guy has a syrup recipe and a flavored butter way worth a thousand years of waffles? That's really the crux here; most people, when required to give something up to otherwise get most of what they want, tend to put Gun Control really far down on the list pretty consistently.
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It doesn't help that lots of pieces of gun control legislation are functionally useless in terms of reducing gun violence and pretty much only make gun owners' lives more difficult. There's no sane reason to restrict suppressors (they aren't magic gun quieters, they're more like mufflers) and there's an excellent health care reason not to (reducing hearing damage). Restrictions of certain types of semi-automatic rifles of the kind beloved of NRA members does gently caress all to reduce inner city gun crimes carried out with handguns.
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buttchug 4 buttigieg
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Vox Nihili posted:My point is that they vote for politicians who oppose all gun control, including the mild measures that the voters themselves (allegedly) actually support. So it's like they believe in limited pancake production, but always vote for the guy who believes pancakes are actually the devil and will pour all of our taxes into subsidizing waffle production just to show how much he hates pancakes. This theoretical politician doesn't exist in the Democratic Party. Meanwhile Republican's are supporting a full reciprocity law, which is also something much of the country except for the hilariously out of touch coasts, support.
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Bernie Sanders has gotten mostly Ds from the NRA and Clinton campaigned against him like he got As from them his entire career. Dems did the same to Howard Dean in 2004. Maybe they should loving stop doing.
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if youre left of center in the US and you shoot a gun and dont immediately disclaim the experience you automatically count as either a socialist or a conservative hosed up, but true
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killer mike also knows a thing or two about the second biggest killer of people, vaccines
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logikv9 posted:killer mike also knows a thing or two about the second biggest killer of people, vaccines Wow first Ellison now Killer Michael, no offense dude but it seems like there's a pattern here...
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The posted the DNC vote breakdown if you're interested: https://docs.google.com/viewerng/viewer?url=http://progressivearmy.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/DNC-CHAIR-BALLOTS-FINAL-1.pdf&hl=en_US The guy I emailed before Keith asked we don't email people voted for Keith, go figure.
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Ace of Baes posted:Wow first Ellison now Killer Michael, no offense dude but it seems like there's a pattern here... ellison is an anti-vaxx dude? looks like another point for buttigieg and his disciple, nan whaley
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Jazerus posted:buttchug 4 buttigieg the way his innocent eyes sparkle but still maintain determination his face lights up towards the stars Buttigieg
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Being serious for just a moment, but in terms of bad beliefs, I probably wouldn't hold some mild vaccine skepticism against someone like Killer Michael given the history that African Americans have had with medicine in this country. Now if he went full Jenny McCarthy instead of just posting some dumb videos I'd be more up in arms, but yeah there is historical precedent for AA's to be more cautious about the American medical establishment.
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RedneckwithGuns posted:Being serious for just a moment, but in terms of bad beliefs, I probably wouldn't hold some mild vaccine skepticism against someone like Killer Michael given the history that African Americans have had with medicine in this country. Now if he went full Jenny McCarthy instead of just posting some dumb videos I'd be more up in arms, but yeah there is historical precedent for AA's to be more cautious about the American medical establishment. somebody said this before and the response was that killer mike got converted by the vaxxed documentary, which doesn't mention the history of undisclosed medical experiments performed on black populations in its argument
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also looking up info on the vaxxed documentary made me really upset because gently caress these morons
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i have been triggered, but luckily this stress won't trigger latent herpes zoster because i was immunized when i was a child thanks vaccines
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CrumFUNist! posted:Bernie Sanders has gotten mostly Ds from the NRA and Clinton campaigned against him like he got As from them his entire career. Dems did the same to Howard Dean in 2004. Maybe they should loving stop doing. Bernie Sanders is also racist and sexist. His supporters were "bros". They were being ridiculous. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjGEHIkZ7ss This actually happened at a professionally produced major party convention, lol. FuriousxGeorge has issued a correction as of 11:27 on Mar 7, 2017 |
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FuriousxGeorge posted:Bernie Sanders is also racist and sexist. lol clinton's defeat was so obvious in retrospect
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CrumFUNist! posted:Bernie Sanders has gotten mostly Ds from the NRA and Clinton campaigned against him like he got As from them his entire career. Dems did the same to Howard Dean in 2004. Maybe they should loving stop doing. Dems jerking off about gun control is so loving self defeating because it off puts pretty much anyone and everyone who lives outside of an urban area
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Donkwich posted:women who supported bernie should have called themselves sanders sisters in solidarity with the bernie brothers Bernie Sanders was a racist though. He lied about fighting for civil rights and claimed a picture of Bruce Rappaport fighting for civil rights was actually him. I read about it in real news outlet The Washington Post in a real news article by real newsman Jonathan Capehart. Jonathan Capehart is still employed as a real newsman by real news outlet The Washington Post so the story must have been true. FuriousxGeorge has issued a correction as of 12:12 on Mar 7, 2017 |
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HorseRenoir posted:Hey here's an article on a progressive group in Texas that's getting way more Dems elected than the incompetent state party can This isn't particularly surprising. Establishment dems in Texas have done such wonderful things as making feeding the homeless without permits a crime (which they use to take food and supplies charities give the homeless and throw them in the trash) I'm glad this group is showing once again that differentiating yourself instead of chasing republican coattails is the more effective strategy, even in the Deep South.
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Dems staging that idiotic sit in for no fly list based gun control really killed any desire for gun control for me
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gently caress that, we had an answerable proof to this before Trump even announced. Just look at the right wing haven to your north, Alberta. Run as a Centrist appeasement party? 9% rump status. Actually run as a left wing party in the crazyland I was born in? Surprise, against all odds you take 41% and win a majority.
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CrumFUNist! posted:Bernie Sanders has gotten mostly Ds from the NRA and Clinton campaigned against him like he got As from them his entire career. Dems did the same to Howard Dean in 2004. Maybe they should loving stop doing.
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FuriousxGeorge posted:Bernie Sanders was a racist though. He lied about fighting for civil rights and claimed a picture of Bruce Rappaport fighting for civil rights was actually him. I read about it in real news outlet The Washington Post in a real news article by real newsman Jonathan Capehart. even cnn was smart enough to kick donna brazile's rear end off their network
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the entire delegation from my lovely little island voted for perez but they're all insanely corrupt anyways so gently caress em hopefully this sin tax takes some scalps
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comedyblissoption posted:clinton and her campaign insinuated that vermont was some hotbed of illegal arms trafficking lol Bernie never apologized to the Sandy Hook parents like she asked him to 
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Boner Zone posted:Gun violence isn't precluding dems from fighting for single payer, a minimum wage increase, or an end to the war on drugs. All of these would dramatically improve livability in these neighborhoods but I guess we have to win the gun control war first?
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Vox Nihili posted:The funny thing is that for almost any given gun control measure, a solid majority of Americans will actually support enactment as safe and sane. But somehow it doesn't matter, they are still "gun people" and vote for pro-gun politicians. Because we arent voting on individual gun control measures? We are voting for people. And the antigun people act like they really want to ban guns but are only proposing their half measures because they cant get what they really want. Which isnt exactly a vote winning stance for people who dont want that to happen!
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