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ShakeZula posted:They were apparently so hard up for soldiers at the choke point that they had to send PTSD Guy, so there may just not have been any spare guns or trained people to do the job. They left him alone before they sent out troops. I wonder what Trikru thinks of this deal, since they killed a bunch of their people. Trikru keeps getting their rear end kicked. Lycus fucked around with this message at 07:21 on Mar 3, 2017 |
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I can't believe they just blew up the Ark just like that. Also I'm not sure I like whatever is going on with Raven/Abby and their brain implants. It's a bit silly to think about, and it's even sillier the way Abby is acting.
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This season feels like it's going a bit too fast, trying to do all these things it has planned and get everything set up without really dwelling on them or giving them the space they need, and it's lessening a lot of the impact. Also it's really demonstrating up the problem the show sometimes has where established character behaviors and motivations shift for the sake of the plot, even if it doesn't really make sense or fit them. Hopefully this season can get thins back on track; I really like the show but it's been really rocky lately, and sometimes outright silly (Octavia's horse just being there last episode is still so dumb).
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If it was a dog, you'd think it was Grounder's best friend. Horses are smart too.
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I think I've said this before, but seasons 1 and 2 had the plot serve the characters, while seasons 3 and 4 so far have done the opposite, and it makes all the difference. It seems to me like after season 2 was (rightfully) praised to the high heavens, the writers' room (or more likely, Jason Rothenberg) got lost up their own rear end and started trying to be clever and edgy for their own sake, losing much of what made the show appealing to begin with.
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Decent episode but goddam that scene with the PSTD sniper was dumb. The guy didnt had a shot yet when Bellamy and Echo arrived, the king wanst even out of the cave. They could have just immobilized him easily or taken the rifle out of him instead of giving him a long boring speech so he would not pull the trigger at the last second. gently caress those farm station dumbasses always wanting to murder grounders at the worst possible occasions Also, since a grounder blew up the ark, I fear we might have so more idiots going "we have to kill all grounders!!!1" and then provoking a war with then so Claire has to make another peace deal, repeat ad infinitum Lycus posted:Not putting an escort on the stranger is one of the most confusingly dumb choices made on this show. When only half dead Octavia and the elf girl went after him, I though they were alone in Arkadia or something, because it didnt made any sense otherwise. Then the thing exploded and we can see that there were hundreds of people there who could have helped to stop the guy Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Mar 3, 2017 |
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esperterra posted:She's from back east, yeah? I'm in Vancouver myself. All the city of light poo poo was hilarious with them not disguising the harbour and convention centre in any sci fi-y way. Yeah, Ontario. Now I live five minutes from "The City of Light" and I had a laughing fit when I realized I was looking at the library & city hall. It's also kind of funny that the City of Surrey's motto is "The Future Lives Here" - yes, a terrible sci-fi future where everyone has to spend eternity in Surrey.  As for the new ep, the *moment* Roan and Clarke agreed to share the ship, I knew Arkadia was done. That's just how this show rolls, and I was not disappointed. Also I guess Raven has stoke/source code powers now?
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Without the Ark and their supplies/tech/guns, Skaicru really has no leverage or protection. Except whatever Abby can come up with.
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Octavia's stab would healed even faster than Oliver's did back in Arrow Season 3. Quite remarkable, to say the least.
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Elias_Maluco posted:Decent episode but goddam that scene with the PSTD sniper was dumb. The guy didnt had a shot yet when Bellamy and Echo arrived, the king wanst even out of the cave. They could have just immobilized him easily or taken the rifle out of him instead of giving him a long boring speech so he would not pull the trigger at the last second. It was made very clear that if there was a single gunshot sound the Grounders would attack. Considering this, trying to immobilize him would have been extremely risky. That was the entire reason behind the "handle with care" approach. It was the logical thing to do.
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I find it funny how many of Continuum's main cast we've had as Cameo's so far.
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enraged_camel posted:It was made very clear that if there was a single gunshot sound the Grounders would attack. Considering this, trying to immobilize him would have been extremely risky. That was the entire reason behind the "handle with care" approach. It was the logical thing to do. Why would he shoot when his target wanst even there? Bellamy could have just jumped at him from the behind and taken the rifle
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Evernoob posted:I find it funny how many of Continuum's main cast we've had as Cameo's so far. Makes sense really, both shows filmed in Canada, and both shows cast surprisingly well given what must be somewhat modest budgets. Terry Chen was around at the start, Luvia Peterson back in the second season, Roger Cross last year, and Richard Harmon, of course. Is there anyone else major I'm forgetting, or just other minor actors that pop up in everything Canadian?
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Elias_Maluco posted:Why would he shoot when his target wanst even there? Bellamy could have just jumped at him from the behind and taken the rifle I mean it's generally a really bad idea to wrestle people who are holding guns if the goal is for the gun to not go off, since that very thing might happen during the struggle. Jeez man, do you never watch movies???
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Elias_Maluco posted:Why would he shoot when his target wanst even there? Bellamy could have just jumped at him from the behind and taken the rifle I mean these are 100+year weapons that probably aren't well maintained. That rifle looked dirty as hell. Could even be brazillian and well..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fn6GFSwTEw
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Open Source Idiom posted:Terry Chen was around at the start, Luvia Peterson back in the second season, Roger Cross last year, and Richard Harmon, of course. Nope, those are also the ones I spotted. Deeply disappointing we didn't get some real raw Garza in action though  Just started watching SE04, the whole reactors worldwide simultaneous meltdown after the "warranty" expires is ridiculous unfortunately. Plenty of high tech systems have been functioning perfectly way beyond their designed life. Also you'd think a nuclear power plant would rather shut down in a controlled fashion instead of melting down. + what have those plants been doing int he past 97 years? You can't just produce electricity if you have no users for it. Production needs to follow consumption very closely.
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Yeah, its pretty dumb and absurd, like everything related to radiation on this show since S1
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I don't know why they simply just didn't have Alie cause the meltdowns intentionally.
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Yes, this As a final threat this would have made ALIE a proper villain. However they rather go with "no real villains, but all just different groups each with their own agenda's for survival". ALIE really had no evil intentions, she just wanted to "save" everyone so they could live in the City of Light forever. Quick question, i probably missed this : how active was ALIE before Jaha turned up? I was under the impression she was mostly dormant until Jaha's escape pod/nuke landed. Another great plotline would have been that ALIE was the only reason those reactors didn't blow up without any human supervision. Now that ALIE is gone they would blow up soon. (But in the series they already had blown up recently)
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She was active but limited to the house. I guess the drones can retrieve a big rear end nuclear warhead but couldn't assemble her portable backpack. Thankfully Jaha arrived to do just that.
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Those drones must also have been really good housekeepers. That mansion was pretty clean after being deserted for so long. Or maybe Igor was a really good butler. Also possible. (pet peeve for every post apocalypse TV show. Everything is always way too clean)
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They do a good job of being dirty in this show, but y'all can't be filthy and grinding grounders all the time. Bacteria is afraid of Octavia.
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Elias_Maluco posted:Yeah, its pretty dumb and absurd, like everything related to radiation on this show since S1 Nothing in this show has made a lick of sense for two seasons, but I guess that's the reason I'm still watching
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steinrokkan posted:Nothing in this show has made a lick of sense since the beginning, but I guess that's the reason I'm still watching FTFY If you think about it, plenty of the things that we're complaining about are as dumb as other things we were completely willing to overlook in the earlier seasons.
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It's like all those TV screens on the Ark. Or any other electronic appliance for that matter. We all know those things tend to break like one WEEK after the warranty period is over. (off course this equipment is all NASA/Military grade, but still) Totally digging the show for all the brutal plot twists and genocides though. There could also still be some other Ark Stations with survivors... more red shirts for Clarke to sacrifice. (PS : do we have any named Farm station survivor at this point? Pike/Monty's Mommy all dead)
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Evernoob posted:It's like all those TV screens on the Ark. Or any other electronic appliance for that matter. That dumb guy who wanted to kill the king last episode, I think he is the last one (forgot his name, but he has one)
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Evernoob posted:Just started watching SE04, the whole reactors worldwide simultaneous meltdown after the "warranty" expires is ridiculous unfortunately. I take it you haven't paid attention to what happened at Fukushima. After the earthquake, the active reactors automatically shut down their sustained fission reactions, but the tsunami that followed destroyed the emergency generators that would have provided power to cool the reactors, resulting in meltdown (even though the reactions were shut down, the fuel rods were still at extremely high temperatures). Besides, criticizing the show on this plot point is silly, as there's a lot we don't know. Think about it: how come the reactors are melting down now, 97 years after the nuclear war? Who has been keeping their reactions going by regularly supplying the reactors with fuel? Who has been maintaining the power plants? How come they all started melting down at the same time? The most plausible explanation: these were special power plants that were: a) designed to withstand nuclear war b) automated to such extent that they were able to self-regulate their power production levels based on consumption (allowing their fuel reserves to last as long as they did, once everyone died) But even fully automated systems require maintenance, so it's not exactly implausible for poo poo to start hitting the fan after nearly a century of neglect. Also also, I would recommend not taking everything said on the show at face value. Becca's explanation may have been "the power plants ran out of warranty, which is why they started melting down" but the reality could easily have been that a bunch of Grounders found their way in and pressed the wrong button.
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Maybe you can find a rationale to it, but the show havent said anything like that and the way they actually explained it is pretty dumb
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Elias_Maluco posted:Maybe you can find a rationale to it, but the show havent said anything like that and the way they actually explained it is pretty dumb As far as I know, no one in Skaikru are nuclear scientists, so their layman's explanations will obviously sound really dumb. Even the engineers on the team are unlikely to know how the reactors were designed and how they worked, so they naturally went with Becca's explanation (and she obviously could not have known exactly why the power plants started failing either, considering they are in Europe).
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enraged_camel posted:considering they are in Europe). Uhh what?
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Boris Galerkin posted:Uhh what? I think they are referring to the nuclear plants, not the characters.
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Boris Galerkin posted:Uhh what? Well, fine, also North Africa.   We know North America contains none (or at least not in the immediate vicinity of the show's setting) because they said it would take several months for the radiation to reach them. Also, Luna's crew gets affected first, and they're out on the Atlantic, meaning the radiation wave is coming from the other side of the Atlantic.
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We also got a brief flash of some woman getting BBQ'd in Egypt. I'm almost caught up in season 4 now... they just blew up the hydro machine. 
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Evernoob posted:Nope, those are also the ones I spotted. The way I understood it is that those reactors had some kind of futuristic passive/walk away safety mechanism that was designed to function for a very specific time only. Engineers and marketing would naturally pick a round and nice number for stuff like this and that's why it's exactly 100 years. Like, for example, there are modern nuclear reactor designs that include tanks of water that can gravity feed coolant to the core in an emergency situation. But the water tanks are designed to only hold enough water for exactly 60 hours or so and if no human appears by then to put the pumps/power back on, the reactor will go through a meltdown.
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I wonder how possible it is that a bunch of nuclear plants melting around the world would create such a disaster as they are expecting, the end of the human race etc?
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Elias_Maluco posted:I wonder how possible it is that a bunch of nuclear plants melting around the world would create such a disaster as they are expecting, the end of the human race etc? The portrayal of meltdowns on this show is very Simpsons-esque, for lack of a better term. Fiction tends to imagine a nuclear meltdown as something akin to Chernobyl, where the plant blows its lid and scatters radiation to the four winds, but modern nuclear power plant designs are such that it's more-or-less impossible for this to happen. Most nuclear power plants are nothing more than glorified steam engines, with the immense heat from radioactive decay boiling a tub of water, converting it to steam, which pushes a turbine to produce electricity. A "meltdown" is just what it sounds like: the systems put in place to contain said immense heat fail and the fuel melts down through the floor of the reactor. This can be damaging to the local ecosystem if it hits the water table, but is unlikely to spread much beyond the area around the reactor. It's hilarious they came up with such a ludicrous explanation for the ongoing peril in S4, considering they had a perfectly good antagonist in the form of ALIE, who, backed into a corner, could have set off the world's last remaining nukes (because she panicked, or because she didn't think there'd be a need for any more living humans with the City of Light, etc.).
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More than anything I'm just curious as to how they're going to resolve this problem of the entire earth becoming a nuclear wasteland (again) in a satisfying way
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They are going to make rain nightblood all over the earth
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