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Ace of Aces posted:I've heard people reference the "It was written by children!" thing before but I've never seen an actual source for it in a Pokemon game, so I've always assumed it was just fanon people were taking as truth. I think it mostly comes from the first game, where Oak gives you the Pokedex and asks you to catch everything you can to help fill it out.
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WarpedLichen posted:Not really, unless you think things like Diglet, Garchomp and Onix look like diggers. As others have said, only Diglet's head is visible. In the Pokemon Stadium games Onix was shown being able to rotate any segment of its body independently, and the Pokedex mentions that its body smoothens out as it ages, so I'm pretty sure that it's supposed to dig by spinning its segments around like a drill. And not all ground type Pokemon are necessarily supposed to dig around in the ground, as there are ground types that are just associated with mud.
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Mar 7, 2017 14:35
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Randalor posted:Those aren't bad names/concepts for fan pokemon. Considering pokemon follow the logic of "Blue=Water or Ice" and cherenkov radiation is supposed to glow blue, Ice/Poison actually works for a "nuclear pokemon". Plus the puns aren't bad. Eh, a Chernobyl reference is a bit off-color for a pokemon game. Change the name of the evolved form (Cherenkold?) and they work splendidly. The fact that they're the meltdown pokemon is a wonderful pun.
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Mar 7, 2017 14:39
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Oh good, people are talking about burrowing snakes, I have an excuse to post this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz2opOBqClo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXvxaBYRMLM
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Mar 7, 2017 16:25
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KataraniSword posted:It's a cheap, off-the-cuff explanation as to why pokedex entries can be contradictory or downright violate every known law of physics. pokemon doesn't have lore, it has crayon drawings
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Mar 7, 2017 17:36
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turn off the TV posted:And not all ground type Pokemon are necessarily supposed to dig around in the ground, as there are ground types that are just associated with mud. like swampert, one of my favorites!
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Mar 7, 2017 17:37
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Bluhman posted:The head is at least, but for all we know Diglett could be a gigantic drill or some kind of mole-like body beneath the dome head. Or something creepier
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Mar 7, 2017 17:40
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Ace of Aces posted:I've heard people reference the "It was written by children!" thing before but I've never seen an actual source for it in a Pokemon game, so I've always assumed it was just fanon people were taking as truth. i mean, you are playing a child, and presumably writing all these blurbs in the pokedex since it seems like some sort of junior science 'go document every animal that lives here' experiment, so the source is 'what you are doing in every pokemon game'
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Mar 7, 2017 17:48
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If pokedex entries were real, Pokemon world would be the most horrifying fictional universe
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Mar 7, 2017 17:52
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I assumed Oak (Elm, Birch, etc etc etc) just already wrote out all the information available and "filling out the pokedex" works like the anime where it gives explorers a funucational goal
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rannum posted:I assumed Oak (Elm, Birch, etc etc etc) just already wrote out all the information available and "filling out the pokedex" works like the anime where it gives explorers a funucational goal i think the usual line is that they're too old to do it themselves and that's why they're sending this youngster, kind of more tells me they want you to do something for science rather than just to motivate our heroes
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Mar 7, 2017 17:57
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If Pokedex entries were real then India, or at least Indian Elephants, exist in the pokemon world. Which begs the question of why we can't capture an Indian Elephant.
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Mar 7, 2017 18:05
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Unknown Quantity posted:If Pokedex entries were real then India, or at least Indian Elephants, exist in the pokemon world. Which begs the question of why we can't capture an Indian Elephant. There hasn't been a game set in poke-India yet. Duh.
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Unknown Quantity posted:If Pokedex entries were real then India, or at least Indian Elephants, exist in the pokemon world. Which begs the question of why we can't capture an Indian Elephant. 
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Quantum Toast posted:Same reason you can't capture Cut trees or long grass. Because it's not sentient or self-mobile? Oh, wait.
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Mar 7, 2017 22:06
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Gyra_Solune posted:i think the usual line is that they're too old to do it themselves and that's why they're sending this youngster, kind of more tells me they want you to do something for science rather than just to motivate our heroes but only 2 of the professors are actually old unless we're talking in RPG age terms here
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Mar 7, 2017 22:34
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'This information about a monster I stuff into a tiny ball doesn't many sense with the laws of physics, the game must be actively lying to me' is such a weird conclusion to draw.
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You'd figure that an actual scientific database of pokemon would have info on a lot more stuff, plus there's the issue of the ever-present legendary pokemon, but it really just comes down to liking the idea that little kids are writing the descriptions. It's a cute idea and therefore very good in pokemon, a series all about making cute things bludgeon each other to unconsciousness
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Mar 7, 2017 23:28
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I'm now imagining a world where pokedex entries are written in the style of scientific journals. "A post-graduate reading level is required to play this game' written on the back of the case.
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Mar 7, 2017 23:36
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i think in sun/moon it's rotom writing the descriptions, which is why they're all hosed up and weird
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Mar 7, 2017 23:41
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I'm liking this LP. Also this thread is getting me curious about getting the new Pokémon game, but I heard that Nintendo made an upgraded version of the 3ds, and all their new games will require that version (Including Sun & Moon). Did I just mishear this news? Cause I'd much rather not have to buy a new 3ds when the one I have still works fine.
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Mar 7, 2017 23:50
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SirPhoebos posted:I'm liking this LP. Nope, Sun/Moon run on the original 3DS.
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Mar 7, 2017 23:55
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SirPhoebos posted:I'm liking this LP. You misheard. There are a handful of eshop games that require the new 3ds, including SNES VC oddly enough, but as far as I know it's not required for any full-price games. It'll make some look better or easier to play, like Monster Hunter or Hyrule Warriors, but afaik the only improvement in Pokemon is framerate in a few scenes.
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Its also unlikely to happen now that nintendo just released their new handheld line. Any games not already in development for the 3ds are going to be produced for the switch now.
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And there is another good LP that I am following
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The framerate'll chug like a madman in any situation where there's more than two pokemon onscreen (particularly if it has to render weather effects), but Sun and Moon are fully playable on a standard 3DS.
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Classy Hydra posted:The framerate'll chug like a madman in any situation where there's more than two pokemon onscreen (particularly if it has to render weather effects), but Sun and Moon are fully playable on a standard 3DS. Not as bad as the horde battles in XY, though. I swear that dropped it to single digits sometimes.
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PeaceDiner posted:Nope, Sun/Moon run on the original 3DS. Note, they run, but not as well. My wife and I played opposite versions of this game simultaneously, me on a new 3DS and her on an old one, and her machine chugged almost intolerably during totem pokemon fights.
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It's a memory thing in both the case of "why does Sun/Moon chug" and "why is SNES VC only on new 3DS". Virtual Console prides itself on being as close to machine-level emulation as possible, and that eats up a lot of RAM. Likewise, Sun/Moon's battle algorithms were designed with that higher output in mind so things like the battle animations aren't as optimized as they could be. Sun/Moon is perfectly playable on the oldschool 3DS, as are most games - the only exceptions I can think of off the top of my head are Xenoblade and Binding of Isaac Rebirth (I'm sure there's a handful of others, but it's still the outlier as opposed to the expectation.)
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Classy Hydra posted:The framerate'll chug like a madman in any situation where there's more than two pokemon onscreen (particularly if it has to render weather effects), but Sun and Moon are fully playable on a standard 3DS. well, hey, it shares something with pokemon uranium at least but in uranium's case there's even less reason for it to do that
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Hyrule Warriors is technically on old 3DS but it is unplayable. It's effectively a New 3DS title.
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Gyra_Solune posted:i mean, you are playing a child, and presumably writing all these blurbs in the pokedex since it seems like some sort of junior science 'go document every animal that lives here' experiment, so the source is 'what you are doing in every pokemon game' I always figured the implication was that the Pokedex automatically records and organizes what it sees Pokemon doing. That's why it's always remarked on as being incredibly high tech and why the professors always send out kids to do it.
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ChrisBTY posted:I'm now imagining a world where pokedex entries are written in the style of scientific journals. No need to imagine.
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Begemot posted:You misheard. There are a handful of eshop games that require the new 3ds, including SNES VC oddly enough, but as far as I know it's not required for any full-price games. It'll make some look better or easier to play, like Monster Hunter or Hyrule Warriors, but afaik the only improvement in Pokemon is framerate in a few scenes. There's one full-price game that will just completely refuse to run on O3DS: Xenoblade Chronicles 3D. You can technically run the game at O3DS clock speeds on an N3DS using homebrew but it's completely unplayable.
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Shugojin posted:Having strong puns is 90+% of Pokemon design anyway. yeah. You got a good pun going, you probably have the seed of a good design. I wish I could actually draw worth poo poo, because I've had several good ideas. My favorite is Galapagross, a Rock/Poison Galapagos tortoise that oozes poison from its skin. for shits and giggles a year or so ago I worked on an entire region complete with its own regional Pokedex. I drew the map in crayon. It was Poke-Texas (called Delastro), and was shaped like my vague remembrance of the shape of Texas, but rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise. I don't remember all the dumb concepts I came up with, but my favorite was a family of law enforcement dogs, base form Puputy, evolved form Sherruff.
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Spatula City posted:yeah. You got a good pun going, you probably have the seed of a good design. I wish I could actually draw worth poo poo, because I've had several good ideas. My favorite is Galapagross, a Rock/Poison Galapagos tortoise that oozes poison from its skin. This thread has been making me idly brainstorm fake Pokemon (ants, because bless you, ants), and I swear to God, a decent name that's both somewhat clever and largely self-explanatory (i.e. not Tofurang) is the hardest part.
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Endorph posted:i think in sun/moon it's rotom writing the descriptions, which is why they're all hosed up and weird
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Spatula City posted:yeah. You got a good pun going, you probably have the seed of a good design. I wish I could actually draw worth poo poo, because I've had several good ideas. My favorite is Galapagross, a Rock/Poison Galapagos tortoise that oozes poison from its skin. it's definitely a solid idea. hell, sage even uses a similar root for their own take that goes in a different direction entirely for a psychic/rock line chelonite:  galaxagos:   
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Galaxagos is tight.
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Believe it or not, the competitive pokemon scene actually came up with some decent fan pokemon. Since it's the competitive pokemon scene, they came up with a gameplay gimmick and typing first and then designed around that, but it actually led to some creative stuff.   Tomohawk is a flying/fighting type that seems pretty believable and has good art and a good sprite.   Malaconda is a little basic and the biblical reference makes it hard to buy but the sprite is good and I like the concept.   I just like Mollux because a lava lamp pokemon is a good idea. Of course, for every good idea, there's   Just a shrimp that lights up. On the other hand even its sprite is decent. And 'krilowatt' is a fantastic pun.
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