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Guys if we ever get forced back in for WWIII and a gas attack comes, just shove the diazepam auto injector in my leg and leave me. Better off that way.
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EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:Guys if we ever get forced back in for WWIII and a gas attack comes, just
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Mar 8, 2017 01:30
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if we ever get forced back in im gonna be the biggest shitbag you ever seen
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Mar 8, 2017 01:42
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Vahakyla posted:That's what I mean. In case the masks are ever dug out, you can just shave on the way to your duffel bag. It seems like a bullshit excuse, it's not like people are in full MOPP-preparedness out there nonstop just waiting to fight in gas. And if you look to your left ladies and gentlemen you will see a wild Logical Argument in a recreation of its natural habitat. They're skittish so don't get too close. Unfortunately since their habitat is "people with more brain cells than shoe size" habitat loss had made them all but extinct. The first major loss of livable space for this species was the military, where independent thought as well as desire to improve things for others was victim to slash and burn policies related to promotions. Sadly, the wild Logical Argument is all but extinct in the military of today. All of its previous habitat is now occupied by the Good Idea Fairy, which we will certainly come across soon.
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Mar 8, 2017 02:14
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TBeats posted:if we ever get forced back in im gonna be the biggest shitbag you ever seen
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Mar 8, 2017 02:31
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I'd probably die horribly from whatever nerve agent was shot at me before I'd jam that needle in my leg.
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Mar 8, 2017 03:09
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Not to mention, if the reason were gas masks, why are beards banned in garrison environments where you literally aren't issued one. The answer is cause it isn't about gas masks.
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Mar 8, 2017 03:15
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TBeats posted:if we ever get forced back in im gonna be the biggest shitbag you ever seen You wouldn't be able to taze the opiates out of my mouth.
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Mar 8, 2017 03:25
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mlmp08 posted:Not to mention, if the reason were gas masks, why are beards banned in garrison environments where you literally aren't issued one. It's because back when you could grow facial hair, someone got made fun of somewhere in their career for only being able to grow a shameful mockery of a beard, and when they got into the appropriate position said "gently caress all of you."
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Mar 8, 2017 03:33
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TBeats posted:if we ever get forced back in im gonna be the biggest shitbag you ever seen I set the bar pretty high
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Mar 8, 2017 03:34
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mlmp08 posted:Not to mention, if the reason were gas masks, why are beards banned in garrison environments where you literally aren't issued one.
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Mar 8, 2017 03:49
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VCing a Stryker through Snoqualmie pass while having snow dumped on top of you is not a very pleasant experience
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Mar 8, 2017 05:01
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Mustang posted:VCing a Stryker through Snoqualmie pass while having snow dumped on top of you is not a very pleasant experience Why is an officer VCing a stryker? Also try doing it at -35 bitch.
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Mar 8, 2017 05:07
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Obstacle2 posted:Why is an officer VCing a stryker? Also try doing it at -35 bitch. Platoon leaders are the VC of their own vehicle.
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Mar 8, 2017 05:13
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Since when? Every Stryker I was ever in had its own dedicated VC. Granted the PL/PSG/SL would be popping out the other front hatch, but still.
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Mar 8, 2017 05:18
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The Rat posted:Since when? Every Stryker I was ever in had its own dedicated VC. Granted the PL/PSG/SL would be popping out the other front hatch, but still. PLs just stood in the squad leader's hatch for their vehicle, but never VC'd. Just sit your rear end down if you are cold.
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Mar 8, 2017 05:19
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I know I've been out a while, but yeah, confirmed, MTOE for a Stryker platoon has a dedicated VC per truck. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/3-21-11/image625.jpg
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Mar 8, 2017 05:20
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I'm Cav, I VC my own Stryker as do my section leaders and PSG
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Mar 8, 2017 05:25
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 Didn't realize cav had it different than infantry.
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Mar 8, 2017 05:26
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The Rat posted:I know I've been out a while, but yeah, confirmed, MTOE for a Stryker platoon has a dedicated VC per truck. Alright, now do that with half the people, replace half of the E3s with E1s, the other half with E4s, and just remove all of the E5s except for 2. There's reality for you.
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Mar 8, 2017 05:28
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The Rat posted:
They dont, they just use the terminology wrong. The VC is the guy who stays in the truck when you dismount, not the PL. Doesnt matter if you are Cav or not. You always have a dedicated VC regardless of how undermanned you are, you arent leaving a driver alone in a vehicle lol.
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Mar 8, 2017 05:28
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lol MTOE
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Mustang posted:VCing a Stryker through Snoqualmie pass while having snow dumped on top of you is not a very pleasant experience Did it the other way coming back from Yakima a few days ago. Enjoy it out there - it's a soupy mess with all the snow that melts during the day and refreezes at night. Not the most pleasant time of the year
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Mar 8, 2017 05:52
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Mustang, we should meet up for drinks sometime when you get back. I'd love to get your side of that inevitable cluster gently caress compared to my sides.
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Zeris posted:lol MTOE MTOE aka manning levels that never actually happen and you're getting twice the amount of equipment that meets half the requirements because 3/4 of it is loving broken. Do twice the amount of bullshit with half the people you need and a quarter the gear, then get poo poo on because your PSG/PL can't gargle your 1SG's/CO's balls enough by bumping it up to triple the amount of bullshit, 1SG/CO can't manage the extra bit of tongue for the CSM/BC, on and on up the chain of NCOER/OER bullets that have been hyperinflated with worthless poo poo worse than the Zimbabwe dollar. TBeats posted:if we ever get forced back in im gonna be the biggest shitbag you ever seen
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Mar 8, 2017 07:46
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Diarrhea Elemental posted:DoD. txt Let me tell you the tale of how I had to explain to a light colonel how one of his S3 guys didn't have NVGs because we only had enough to equip 25% of the company with them, and that would be if they all worked, which they didn't. If I have reallocated that set of PVS-14s, then we wouldn't have enough for the people driving and TCing vehicles to have optics. I explained that he would either have to pull them from one of those guys, or someone from his command staff, and he backed down.
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A Bad Poster posted:and he backed down. You had me up until this point, but I have to call bullshit here.
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Mar 8, 2017 09:22
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Obstacle2 posted:They dont, they just use the terminology wrong.
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Also this:Diarrhea Elemental posted:MTOE aka manning levels that never actually happen By extension, MTOE also doesn't mean that you'll have enough bodies to fill every slot on every truck. Again, this is just from a Stryker cav perspective, but you're lucky if you have more than 80% of your UMR filled in garrison (for various reasons). This is typical (scrubbed, but green/red reflects actual manning): 
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Man, my FIST PLT in 1-1CD was like 45% strength when I was getting out with PV1/2s acting as FO's in the infantry platoons. I had to VC for a bradley gunnery for good numbers on the BN's slide deck going to brigade before I seperated. Myself a recently minted CPL who had never done Bradley Gunnery, a PV2 gunner, and a PV1 driver loaned from an Infantry platoon from a line company would go on to score somewhere in the top 1/4th of the battalion. gently caress Table 6 forever, we also had 11 brads go down to mechanical failure since afuckers never do proper PMCS, and that meant other crews wound up using our brad and us having to clean all their poo poo out. I spent the whole time with the constant though of gently caress our score and ever vigilant over not having a negligent Discharge happen. gently caress the 240Cs position behind the screen as well. Also gently caress the sim, and whatever human being scheduled me for 3 in the morning on saturday and sunday. TPSDude fucked around with this message at 10:39 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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not caring here posted:You wouldn't be able to taze the opiates out of my mouth. Remember Pigpen from Peanuts? I'm going to look like that only it will be a haze of weed smoke in stead of dust. They are going to have to change my eye color to red. My loving return body address will be Pluto. SSgt Tendency will have to be changed to SSgt Nelson. Imma have to be moved to AFWA's Space Weather dept. gently caress that. I ain't never going back and will make sure that even if they try to gently caress with my non-reentry code, I won't pass any screen.
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Naked Bear posted:That's what the gunner is for. I don't know how you wacky infantry guys do things, but when you have a whopping four guys on a truck and one of them is an officer, he's gonna be the TC and his rear end is also gonna dismount. The gunner and driver stay on. The truck belongs to the gunner. The gunner is the VC as you just pointed out, not the PL PSG or squad leader. Also if cav really deploys with strykers that undermanned they are even gayer and more stupid than I thought. Whole platoon dismounts and you have a squad on the ground? Obstacle2 fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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Obstacle2 posted:They dont, they just use the terminology wrong. False. VC dismounts all the time. Driver stays with gunner.
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TBeats posted:False. VC dismounts all the time. Driver stays with gunner. The gunner is the VC.
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Obstacle2 posted:The gunner is the VC. VC is vehicle commander. Vehicle commander is the person in the passenger seat who is usually the highest rank in the vehicle. There's no way PV2 dipshit is going to be a vehicle commander.
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Mar 8, 2017 12:07
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gently caress you if you're still in [the VC chair arguing about mtoe]
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Mar 8, 2017 12:12
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Obstacle2 posted:The gunner is the VC as you just pointed out, not the PL PSG or squad leader. Naked Bear posted:in garrison Naked Bear fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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Mar 8, 2017 15:30
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I'm out of the army and arguing about distinctions between dumb army things! 
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Mar 8, 2017 15:41
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every position on every MTOE is slotted for and filled by retards because loving lol if you're still in
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Pesticide20 posted:I'm out of the army and arguing about distinctions between dumb army things!
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