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a false
Mar 5, 2009

I DECIDE
WHO LIVES
AND WHO DIES

Ginette Reno posted:

Why is he still in the league

he also had a 51% corsi last night!!!

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DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Rotten Cookies posted:

This reminds me of "Jarome! It's me! Olli! I'm back!"


I think someone in here had that as an avatar/text?

R-Lam

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME

Ginette Reno posted:

Why is he still in the league

he wasn't but now he is

has actually looked decent in two games but I'llnot be fooled

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

Maybe Senpai will finally notice me now that I've dropped :fivebux: on this snazzy av

El Gallinero Gros posted:


Calder: Auston Matthews

Yes guy

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Ginette Reno posted:

Why is he still in the league

The Rangers are 2-0 since calling him up!

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



Sounds like Tanner Glass needs some top 6 time IMO. Can't ever have enough grit at the top of your lineup, especially in the playoffs.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

Mind_Taker posted:

Sounds like Tanner Glass needs some top 6 time IMO. Can't ever have enough grit at the top of your lineup, especially in the playoffs.

Disco Dan's ears perk up

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME

Mind_Taker posted:

Sounds like Tanner Glass needs some top 6 time IMO. Can't ever have enough grit at the top of your lineup, especially in the playoffs.

Kreider's on the top line and he injured someone last night so close enough?

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

https://twitter.com/drosennhl/status/839500967401906177

this is stupid!!!

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

That totally changes the strategy of coach's challenges too.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

They need to just bite the bullet and make the nets bigger, all these tiny little changes they make are towards essentially the same end but the way they're taking is getting more and more convoluted and all these little changes create their own, unpredictable knockon effects.

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


The big problem with making the nets bigger is it makes every net in the world obsolete. It'd be like if the NBA changed the rim size or height.

shyduck fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Mar 8, 2017

Nottherealaborn
Nov 12, 2012

shyduck posted:

The big problem with making the nets bigger is it makes every net in the world obsolete. It'd be like if the NBA changed the rim size or height.

What?

Suspicious
Apr 30, 2005
You know he's the villain, because he's got shifty eyes.
I don't understand what going back to 80's scores of 8-5 would accomplish. Hockey games aren't fun to watch based on the score.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Don't need to make nets bigger anyways. Do something decisive about goalie pads first.

And I don't buy the "we need them like this for protection" argument. Materials science is loving bonkers these days and it has to be possible to use carbon fiber and gels and other fancy poo poo to guarantee the goalie never ever feels a puck hitting him.

DOOMocrat
Oct 2, 2003


Most nets are NHL standard. A bigger NHL standard would make the old nets not standard. Pretty simple.

xzzy posted:

Don't need to make nets bigger anyways. Do something decisive about goalie pads first.

And I don't buy the "we need them like this for protection" argument. Materials science is loving bonkers these days and it has to be possible to use carbon fiber and gels and other fancy poo poo to guarantee the goalie never ever feels a puck hitting him.

Distributing force is not that easy, even for modern materials.

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012

Pornographic Memory posted:

They need to just bite the bullet and make the nets bigger, all these tiny little changes they make are towards essentially the same end but the way they're taking is getting more and more convoluted and all these little changes create their own, unpredictable knockon effects.
I'm not even necessarily against increasing the net size, but they have made minimal efforts to actually increase scoring in the last few years (basically just the 3 on 3 overtime), and also added a measure to decrease scoring with the challenges. They have certainly made no major efforts to increase scoring since 2005. They haven't done any tiny little changes, even a rule emphasis since the ill-fated faceoff violations stuff of 2013. What if they called penalties again, instead of calling the fewest in history? Just a thought. It's been only recently that the GMs have admitted to any attempts, and as far as I am aware Bettman has said nothing and rebuked any attempts to do so.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
No changing on an icing is somewhat of a dumb idea to begin with, and I definitely don't like the no timeout thing. That type of poo poo is likely to lead to injuries with exhausted players on the ice who can't get off.

Flocons de Jambon
Apr 11, 2015
Just let the other team score if you're scared of being tired.

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012

Suspicious posted:

I don't understand what going back to 80's scores of 8-5 would accomplish. Hockey games aren't fun to watch based on the score.
People like scoring and there's a ton of room in between now and 80's hockey. Scoring can also be indicative of how tight/bogged down/conservative a game is, and right now I'd say that's the case.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

DOOMocrat posted:

Distributing force is not that easy, even for modern materials.

Pucks aren't THAT fast. I've taken some decent slappers off my shin guards and felt nothing. No that does not equate to NHL experience but it's not like pucks are hitting supersonic speeds.

The hard part is the joints and seams, but I would think a species that can send humans to the moon could figure something out.

Gio
Jun 20, 2005


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7mekhFTrXM

still relevant

Nottherealaborn
Nov 12, 2012

DOOMocrat posted:

Most nets are NHL standard. A bigger NHL standard would make the old nets not standard. Pretty simple.

Oh I'm dumb and thought it was arguing that changing NHL would somehow effect other sports.

I get it now.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

xzzy posted:

The hard part is the joints and seams, but I would think a species that can send humans to the moon could figure something out.

Well once we do, we'll start working on it.

DOOMocrat
Oct 2, 2003

xzzy posted:

Pucks aren't THAT fast. I've taken some decent slappers off my shin guards and felt nothing. No that does not equate to NHL experience but it's not like pucks are hitting supersonic speeds.

The hard part is the joints and seams, but I would think a species that can send humans to the moon could figure something out.

You have zero context for taking a 100+ mph slapshot. I don't either, but spreading out that force with a smaller surface area and less room to crumple (smaller pads) is an intrinsically harder problem. You need extended time of impact to distribute force, and big fluffy pads do that. Cut the surface area, and you take more of the force of impact at once. Sure you could try and spread that impact to more surface area on the goalie's body itself, but that's not a "add some gel" fix

Get rid of the blue lines, IMO. You wanna rover, whatever. You're taking liberties with your own defense.

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


DOOMocrat posted:

Get rid of the blue lines, IMO. You wanna rover, whatever. You're taking liberties with your own defense.
Would there still be offsides via the red line or is it just anything goes, park a guy at the opposing net at all times?

fits
Jan 1, 2008

Love Always,
The Captain
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/839507607467474945

:rip:

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...
Tanner Glass is just about right for a 16th forward. So far he's played hard and sparked the team a bit by being a demo of "how to play hard-nosed hockey" in five minutes a night on "easy" difficulty against the other team's bottom line.

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
Goalie pads are made to be bigger than is necessary for protection, especially at the shoulders, arms, and knees. They even advertise this as features in advertising copy. They could lose a LOT of padding and still have plenty of protection.

Zybl0re
Aug 10, 2002

I'M TOO OLD FOR THIS SHIT!

Spring Break My Heart posted:

I'm not even necessarily against increasing the net size, but they have made minimal efforts to actually increase scoring in the last few years (basically just the 3 on 3 overtime), and also added a measure to decrease scoring with the challenges. They have certainly made no major efforts to increase scoring since 2005. They haven't done any tiny little changes, even a rule emphasis since the ill-fated faceoff violations stuff of 2013. What if they called penalties again, instead of calling the fewest in history? Just a thought. It's been only recently that the GMs have admitted to any attempts, and as far as I am aware Bettman has said nothing and rebuked any attempts to do so.

Yeah, calling penalties seems like the most obvious change to make. Just enforce the rules that already exist.

Rotten Cookies
Nov 11, 2008

gosh! i like both the islanders and the rangers!!! :^)

Zybl0re posted:

Yeah, calling penalties seems like the most obvious change to make. Just enforce the rules that already exist.

Nothing pisses me off more than the insane amounts of interference and obstruction on dump ins. You dumped the puck in? Lemme take this opportunity to skate out of my lane, right in front of you, give you a bear hug as the other D goes to get the puck. Sorry, lol!

Every team does it, some players are very good at it, and it almost never gets called.

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


Call more penalties, but I don't want it to go back to post-lockout when there was a penalty every 8 seconds.

Gio
Jun 20, 2005


that's what they did after the lockout. it was a loving gong show of penalties.

crazy thought: i like hockey the way it is.

Gio
Jun 20, 2005


can we get a rule that says ken holland cant be a GM?

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

The NHLPA only pays lip service to the fact that goalies could get hurt with reduced equipment. Look at anything they wore prior to 1995, it was nothing compared to the michelin man suits they strap on today and it's not like there was an epidemic of broken ribs and shattered kneecaps among the netminders of yesteryear.

Goaltenders have spent the last twenty years building themselves up as the most integral part of a hockey team. If the NHLPA were to allow greatly reduced equipment size they'd be dramatically reducing the effectiveness of a good portion of their members. No team is going to keep paying a premium for goalies if the average SV% drops markedly overnight, and the NHLPA would have a revolt from (at least) 10% of their paid members.

The NHLPA has focused on propping up the pay and notoriety of its defensive players and goaltenders since the late 90s. They can hardly back pedal now.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Gio posted:

can we get a rule that says ken holland cant be a GM?

*monkey's paw finger curls up, and Ken Holland becomes the owner of the Wings*

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012

Rotten Cookies posted:

Nothing pisses me off more than the insane amounts of interference and obstruction on dump ins. You dumped the puck in? Lemme take this opportunity to skate right in front of you, give you a bear hug as the other D goes to get the puck. Sorry, lol!
There was a sliver of time in 05-06 where they would call those situations and you'd have cool little set-ups where a player would chip the puck in such that the defender had to go back and make a play on it, because if he just grabbed the guy he'd get called. It's a blip in time now.

Gio posted:

that's what they did after the lockout. it was a loving gong show of penalties.

crazy thought: i like hockey the way it is.
In 05-06 there were close to 12 power plays a game. This year it's close to 6. What if there were numbers in between 6 and 12!?

And anyways 05-06 was the best regular season of all time.

Slappy Pappy
Oct 15, 2003

Mighty, mighty eagle soaring free
Defender of our homes and liberty
Bravery, humility, and honesty...
Mighty, mighty eagle, rescue me!
Dinosaur Gum

DOOMocrat posted:

You have zero context for taking a 100+ mph slapshot. I don't either, but spreading out that force with a smaller surface area and less room to crumple (smaller pads) is an intrinsically harder problem. You need extended time of impact to distribute force, and big fluffy pads do that. Cut the surface area, and you take more of the force of impact at once. Sure you could try and spread that impact to more surface area on the goalie's body itself, but that's not a "add some gel" fix

Get rid of the blue lines, IMO. You wanna rover, whatever. You're taking liberties with your own defense.

Easy. Just make goalies out of titanium. OR make pucks out of pressed ham.

Gio
Jun 20, 2005


iospace posted:

*monkey's paw finger curls up, and Ken Holland becomes the owner of the Wings*

:doh:

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Gio
Jun 20, 2005


Spring Break My Heart posted:

In 05-06 there were close to 12 power plays a game. This year it's close to 6. What if there were numbers in between 6 and 12!?

And anyways 05-06 was the best regular season of all time.
how do you expect to achieve that?

Slappy Pappy posted:

Easy. Just make goalies out of titanium. OR make pucks out of pressed ham.

wouldnt work. phil kessel would eat the puck every game.

Gio fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Mar 8, 2017

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