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The Brown Menace
Dec 24, 2010

Now comes in all colors.


Peel posted:

i dunno what it's supposed to be but it sure feels like what you get if you have fascist types striving to restore the glorious past in a place where the glorious past is socialism


but maybe this is completely wrong????

It's Stockholm syndrome: the ideology

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Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

get that OUT of my face posted:

there are a lot of neo-Nazis in Poland which is especially wtf

why?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

The Brown Menace posted:

It's Stockholm syndrome: the ideology

It's really the complete opposite of that. National Bolshevism doesn't make much sense outside of the Yeltsin's Russia it formulated in.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

get that OUT of my face posted:

there are a lot of neo-Nazis in Poland which is especially wtf

it's not all that surprising tbh

The Brown Menace
Dec 24, 2010

Now comes in all colors.


Can't believe a country being rapidly de-industrialized and drained of its young and future is veering towards fascism, this is another mystery for the ages

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
What an Novorussiya?

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Stepan Bandera

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

slavs were considered untermenschen. on the other hand, fascism is based on a web of contradictions to begin with

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

well obviously since the Slavic races defeated Nazi Germany they're the master race instead of Germans

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

https://holodomorinfo.com/ lmao

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

"The Jewish Ethnic Cleansing of Europeans"

noooooooooope

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

[in yakov smirnoff voice] In Soviet Russia Jew Genocides You!

Aeolius
Jul 16, 2003

Simon Templeman Fanclub
but it has all those Truth Videos

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013


get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

as a jew i'm disappointed that none of us have a face that combines a skull with a Guy Fawkes mask. "the chosen people" my rear end

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

get that OUT of my face posted:

as a jew i'm disappointed that none of us have a face that combines a skull with a Guy Fawkes mask. "the chosen people" my rear end

how much motza blood I gotta bake before I can summon snow demons?

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

the bolshevik has a big dick

The Brown Menace
Dec 24, 2010

Now comes in all colors.


"Oy Moshe the goyim saying we can't touch them"

"HOLODOMOR BEER"

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


get that OUT of my face posted:

as a jew i'm disappointed that none of us have a face that combines a skull with a Guy Fawkes mask. "the chosen people" my rear end

it also looks a bit dril-esque imo

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: "theres actually zero difference between Holocaust & Holodomor. you imbecile. you loving moron"

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Today is the 100th year anniversary of the First Russian Revolution.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Plutonis posted:

Today is the 100th year anniversary of the First Russian Revolution.

:toot:

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

'The 23rd of February was International Woman’s Day. The social-democratic circles had intended to mark this day in a general manner: by meetings, speeches, leaflets. It had not occurred to anyone that it might become the first day of the revolution. Not a single organisation called for strikes on that day. What is more, even a Bolshevik organisation, and a most militant one – the Vyborg borough committee, all workers – was opposing strikes. The temper of the masses, according to Kayurov, one of the leaders in the workers’ district, was very tense; any strike would threaten to turn into an open fight. But since the committee thought, the time unripe for militant action – the party not strong enough and the workers having too few contacts with the soldiers – they decided not to call for strikes but to prepare for revolutionary action at some indefinite time in the future. Such was the course followed by the committee on the eve of the 23rd of February, and everyone seemed to accept it. On the following morning, however, in spite of all directives, the women textile workers in several factories went on strike, and sent delegates to the metal workers with an appeal for support. “With reluctance,” writes Kayurov, “the Bolsheviks agreed to this, and they were followed by the workers, Mensheviks and Social Revolutionaries. But once there is a mass strike, one must call everybody into the streets and take the lead.” Such was Kayurov’s decision, and the Vyborg committee had to agree to it. “The idea of going into the streets had long been ripening among the workers; only at that moment nobody imagined where it would lead.”...

'Thus the fact is that the February revolution was begun from below, overcoming the resistance of its own revolutionary organisations, the initiative being taken of their own accord by the most oppressed and downtrodden part of the proletariat – the women textile workers, among them no doubt many soldiers’ wives. The overgrown breadlines had provided the last stimulus. About 90,000 workers, men and women, were on strike that day. The fighting mood expressed itself in demonstrations, meetings, encounters with the police. The movement began in the Vyborg district with its large industrial establishments; thence it crossed over to the Petersburg side. There were no strikes or demonstrations elsewhere, according to the testimony of the secret police. On that day detachments of troops were called in to assist the police – evidently not many of them – but there were no encounters with them. A mass of women, not all of them workers, flocked to the municipal duma demanding bread. It was like demanding milk from a he-goat. Red banners appeared in different parts of the city, and inscriptions on them showed that the workers wanted bread, but neither autocracy nor war. Woman’s Day passed successfully, with enthusiasm and without victims. But what it concealed in itself, no one had guessed even by nightfall.'

— Leon Trotsky, The History of the Russian Revolution, Chapter 7.

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



Doc Hawkins posted:

it also looks a bit dril-esque imo

you're thinking of @dasharezone i believe

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Vermain posted:

you're thinking of @dasharezone i believe

Nah I can see a bit of drils facial expression in it.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: "theres actually zero difference between Holocaust & Holodomor. you imbecile. you loving moron"

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Plutonis posted:

Today is the 100th year anniversary of the First Russian Revolution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Afvt0o3yE

ThaumPenguin
Oct 9, 2013

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Hilario Baldness
Feb 10, 2005

:buddy:



Grimey Drawer
So I was watching a lecture by Varoufakis the other day and I was baffled by a point he made, that I was hoping y'all could help elaborate upon.

He said, "The moment that labor is fully commodified, capitalism has died." He then went into a discussion of Invasion of the Body Snatchers, and then The Matrix and in general how human labor cannot be commodified. I know that he knows infinitely more about economics than me (and most people), but wouldn't labor becoming fully commodified be considered a boon to capital in the same way that owning an ax would be a boon to a lumberjack?

ThaumPenguin
Oct 9, 2013

I'm not even sure what that means

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

I would guess that he means labour (productive power) becomes fully able to be bought and sold as a commodity by the owner without all the pesky human free will of the labourer so it is bought sold and used but cannot be exploited, therefore ending capitalism.

It's an 'automation with AI ends capitalism' point.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Hilario Baldness posted:

So I was watching a lecture by Varoufakis the other day and I was baffled by a point he made, that I was hoping y'all could help elaborate upon.

He said, "The moment that labor is fully commodified, capitalism has died." He then went into a discussion of Invasion of the Body Snatchers, and then The Matrix and in general how human labor cannot be commodified. I know that he knows infinitely more about economics than me (and most people), but wouldn't labor becoming fully commodified be considered a boon to capital in the same way that owning an ax would be a boon to a lumberjack?

he's a moron who went from selling electronic hats to (further) bankrupting an entire country

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

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rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

Hilario Baldness posted:

So I was watching a lecture by Varoufakis the other day and I was baffled by a point he made, that I was hoping y'all could help elaborate upon.

He said, "The moment that labor is fully commodified, capitalism has died." He then went into a discussion of Invasion of the Body Snatchers, and then The Matrix and in general how human labor cannot be commodified. I know that he knows infinitely more about economics than me (and most people), but wouldn't labor becoming fully commodified be considered a boon to capital in the same way that owning an ax would be a boon to a lumberjack?
Labor is a social relationship, the full commodification of labour would represent the end of that social relationship, between subjects, and the transformation of the laborer into an object. Essentially, all wage labor transforms into slave labor. That means the end of the consumer, and the end of capitalism as a system. Capital the class survives not as capital, but as slave owners.

But people don't like being objects. As long as they are people, they are subjects. So in order for that to happen, you have to 'kill' them, either by replacing them with robots and then murdering them, or breaking their will.

So the end point of capitalism is either brutal genocide, or revolution.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Though of course slavery isn't exclusive with capitalism, it's still something that exists even to this day, something that it is still in many ways dependent on (see: the debt slavery of third world countries to first world ones, which allow them to get restructured to the benefit of the first, i.e. resource extraction). But we're talking about the full commodification of labour.

cheese
Jan 7, 2004

Shop around for doctors! Always fucking shop for doctors. Doctors are stupid assholes. And they get by because people are cowed by their mystical bullshit quality of being able to maintain a 3.0 GPA at some Guatemalan medical college for 3 semesters. Find one that makes sense.

Hilario Baldness posted:

So I was watching a lecture by Varoufakis the other day and I was baffled by a point he made, that I was hoping y'all could help elaborate upon.

He said, "The moment that labor is fully commodified, capitalism has died." He then went into a discussion of Invasion of the Body Snatchers, and then The Matrix and in general how human labor cannot be commodified. I know that he knows infinitely more about economics than me (and most people), but wouldn't labor becoming fully commodified be considered a boon to capital in the same way that owning an ax would be a boon to a lumberjack?
Capitalism is a vampire, leeching off the productivity of the worker to accumulate wealth. If that labor is fully commodified, then its...slavery?

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

https://twitter.com/marxbot3000/status/838630228377415684

it's perfect

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Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
same as it ever was

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