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Trillhouse posted:It's fun to take a look into the past now that we know 3.0 and SQ42 had no chance of being released in 2016. Did this worry Chris? Did the CEO of a crowdfunded start-up way behind its deadline worry when SQ42, the product he's gone on record saying would finance the rest of development, was no where near completion despite assurances and ads that said it was? The best part is that CIG has the process figured out. 1. Lie about how amazing things will be. 2. Get your marketing and tech demo teams to hype. 3. Whales keep whaling. 4. Rug gets pulled out when they miss the date or massively disappoint. 5. Marketing team kicks into overdrive to convince everyone their expectations were too high. The only question I have is whether the biggest shills are paid or subsidized some way by CIG, or if they are truly just stockholmed at this point after investing $1,000s into an obvious scam.
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aleksendr posted:Imagine having to load a Hull E in SC by hand. The ship, as sold during its concept sale, has a cargo rack bigger than 12 Constellation. Not 12 constellations cargo capacity, 12 WHOLE constellations. You'll just hang out in the space cafe with fellow whales while the scrubs you hired to load your ship do everything for you. Since no human player would do this, well, that's what the 9:1 NPC:player ratio is all about. They just have to teach an AI how to use grabby hands to deal with physically-simulated cargo and figure out how to load everything securely so that it doesn't go bouncing around in flight and such. Probably take an afternoon or two to implement, no big deal. Hell, they probably already have it working in a secret build that they can't show to anyone for reasons
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aleksendr posted:Imagine having to load a Hull E in SC by hand. The ship, as sold during its concept sale, has a cargo rack bigger than 12 Constellation. Not 12 constellations cargo capacity, 12 WHOLE constellations. You mean it can transport a whole 0.30 Ben, that's impressive.
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Achamp posted:The best part is that CIG has the process figured out. 6. The same whales they just grifted perpetuate the marketing. They then insist that anyone with any complaints is are too needy and say "this is why they don't give dates (and the development is so...not open) the community melts down and can't handle it." I don't think they're paid shills, though it wouldn't surprise me. I think they've bought in so hard and spent so much money that admitting they were wrong would cause too huge of a hit to their ego. They've spent so much time defending it that they can't go back. Forget sunk cost fallacy, this is sunk ego fallacy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Ii4AaiBKI That is a movie trailer. http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/03/07/you-need-to-know-about-the-evil-within-right-this-minute For a movie that has been in development for 15 years so the director could achieve his vision. The only saving grace is how campy it is. Otherwise it looks pretty cliche and bad. People just don't think that their grand vision could be stupid and terrible. Chris Roberts in a small way can be a lesson that helps you develop as a person. Squadron 42: Answer the Call: Spring 2027
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Zzr posted:You mean it can transport a whole 0.30 Ben, that's impressive. (st)Imperial, Metric, short or long Ben ? Foo Diddley posted:You'll just hang out in the space cafe with fellow whales while the scrubs you hired to load your ship do everything for you. Since no human player would do this, well, that's what the 9:1 NPC:player ratio is all about. They just have to teach an AI how to use grabby hands to deal with physically-simulated cargo and figure out how to load everything securely so that it doesn't go bouncing around in flight and such. Probably take an afternoon or two to implement, no big deal. Hell, they probably already have it working in a secret build that they can't show to anyone for reasons Does the secret build also take into account the economic impact of such large ships ? Because its really hard to make a game where soemone using a regular constellation can have any impact on the market without a Hull E crashing it, and If a Hull E cant affect a market then every other ship cargo capacity is just whale piss in the ocean. aleksendr fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Mar 9, 2017 |
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aleksendr posted:Does the secret build also take into account the economic impact of such large ships ? Because its really hard to make a game where soemone using a regular constellation can have any impact on the market without a Hull E crashing it, and If a Hull E cant affect a market then every other ship cargo capacity is just whale piss in the ocean. If Chris Roberts was one to let mere impossibilities stand in his way, then he wouldn't be making the BDSSE
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I'm calling it 50/50 on the counter. It clearly has some fancy concrete dye marbled in there because CIG are a bunch of assholes, but it also definitely looks to have some very serious stains that indicate it maybe wasn't sealed correctly (or it was but they used a penetrating sealer and no top-coat and the CIG guys forgot to hit it with some beeswax every now and then). Either way I think we can all agree Chris looks like an rear end in a top hat and that kitchen looks dumb.
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Everyone is forgetting the most important question in all this Does Chris only own 1 stretch-fit black shirt , or is his closet like Homer Simpson with row after row of the exact same outfit ?
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Steve Jobs only had one outfit and his cult does pretty well. Crobberts stealing from the best.
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History Comes Inside! posted:Steve Jobs only had one outfit and his cult does pretty well. Steve Jobs released actual product Both physical and digital
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It's still in pre production the man is building a multinational conglomerate give him a loving break
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Are they still shipping out physical rewards or did they give up on that too because work is hard
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Sappo569 posted:Are they still shipping out physical rewards or did they give up on that too because work is hard I think it is still going. No surprise, Alexis is in charge of that and well she is the competent one in those parts.
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Truga posted:I'm *just* now reading chat, there's some chinese person in there very disappointed that CIG doesn't ship physical rewards to china. The ironing is delicious
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aleksendr posted:Does the secret build also take into account the economic impact of such large ships ? Because its really hard to make a game where soemone using a regular constellation can have any impact on the market without a Hull E crashing it, and If a Hull E cant affect a market then every other ship cargo capacity is just whale piss in the ocean. Nothing in this project has been thought out in any capacity whatsoever. Chris just thinks if he makes enough spaceships* then somehow they will coalesce into a game. *spaceships may not technically exist
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aleksendr posted:Imagine having to load a Hull E in SC by hand. The ship, as sold during its concept sale, has a cargo rack bigger than 12 Constellations. Not 12 Constellations cargo capacity, 12 WHOLE Constellations. You get 75% complete after a few days, accidentally touch another previously docked cargo cannister, and it starts its jitter dance around the cargo bay, clips through the hull, and after a random time explodes the ship and entire contents. While you spin around the charred remains of your ship, you notice a naked man fly past steering by his nipples. happyhippy fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Mar 9, 2017 |
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I hope they do release a cargo module Imagine the tears the first time someone spends 8 hours hand loading their anime into the cargo hold , and then they close the cargo door, power up and watch helplessly as all their carefully stacked crates go flying off into the distance for no reason
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happyhippy posted:You get 75% complete after a few days, accidentally touch another previously docked cargo cannister, and it starts its jitter dance around the cargo bay, clips through the hull, and after a random time explodes the ship and entire contents. Smiling, the naked man squish his bald forehead on your faceplate, allowing the vibrations in his skull to reach your helmet audio pickups. - R U Ok Commando ? Looks like you had a successfl landing ! You scream as you wake up in your wankpod, cold sweat sticking to your skin. The pod's smell of spoiled Big Bennys so strong you could land a Mustang on it. Trough the bay window you can see the Hull - E in all its glory, still in loading after 8 hours. Everything is fine, it was just a nightmare. Then you spot it, a slight jiggle in Cargo Pod #42...
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Trillhouse posted:6. The same whales they just grifted perpetuate the marketing. They then insist that anyone with any complaints is are too needy and say "this is why they don't give dates (and the development is so...not open) the community melts down and can't handle it." It comes mostly down to normal people explaining why they aren't wrong. I'm sure you've met the type of person that is never wrong under any circumstances. Nothing you say or show them matters, if they decide the sky is red they will argue that point until the heat death of the universe and will actually feel smarter by all the ways they can flail around the truth. The dream is real, you just can't see that. Prepare to engage me in 50 separate arguments, and in precisely zero I will concede anything other than the opinion I've already decided. The main issue there though isn't that the game is a failure it's that the people defending it are stupid enough to have the opinions they do, and stubborn enough to try and make that opinion a reality by enabling a failed con man to fail again in exactly the same way he has publicly failed multiple times while telling themselves and the world this is what they want.
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aleksendr posted:Smiling, the naked man squish his bald forehead on your faceplate, allowing the vibrations in his skull to reach your helmet audio pickups. I'm sure that's a similar dream to what Crobbers has anytime he has to present the latest build on stage Dear God is it going to hold .... oh no the textures are starting to tear! And that commando is phasing through the wall I hope no one noticed poo poo ok phew we switched angles totally not scripted , fooled them again !
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Sappo569 posted:I hope they do release a cargo module The inevitable consequence of playing Star Citizen.
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Sappo569 posted:I'm sure that's a similar dream to what Crobbers has anytime he has to present the latest build on stage Except, of course, that the nekkid bald man in his dreams is actually pgabz...... There's a mental image you'll never claw outta your brainpan now )
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Zzr posted:You mean it can transport a whole 0.30 Ben, that's impressive. We're talking a Hull E here. .11 Ben.
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Hey, functional multicrew: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWbYSShv5to
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http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39191064quote:"I no longer believe you are capable of providing the product I pledged for in April, considering the drastic number of delays and your lack of communication toward fellow backers." An indigogo campaign to create the Sinclair ZX Vega+ was halted by indigogo. This was because of copious missed updates lack of communication to backers. Company is claiming violent threats etc but cannot produce evidence to BBC. They also threatened the BBC with legal action. quote:I don't expect a response. I'm just being polite in letting them know this is their last chance before they have to deal with small claims court," wrote a backer called Paul Brookfield. Sound familiar? Here is hoping that this creates British laws that allow for SC backers to get the information they deserve.
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A Neurotic Corncob posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/5yeu5b/ships_not_listed_or_talked_about/  Hav posted:if you're not flying your diamondback explorer like an attack helicopter, son.... Yeah, can someone didn't fly long enough to figure out you can turn Flight Assist off or even see past the limited yaw... the balls on that guy  Also, what passes for flight in Star Citizen is a 6dof shooter with spaceship skins complete with boost strafe doge mechanic and full blown mouse aim. After CiG tapped the sim whales early (40-60mil?) they moved on to the mainstream/twitch crowd and hypermarketed mutually exclusive core concepts to a huge group of people that have since supplanted the original backers.. cig's fence straddling is for obvious reasons but most of the veterans of the controls Katamari (predates the concern forum for gulag) called it years ago and have been proven right. Watching a ship exploiting the ridiculous thrust (+/-20g type poo poo) and lack of inertia in proximity to stationary objects shows how cig have managed to turn it Descent Underground and make an mockery of physics they pretend to care about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkkBicPMXSs Conversely, Diaspora (a literal Battlestar Galactica game) has a pretty kickass 6dof flight model, as it's a reskinned mod of Freespace and you can do the backwards shooty thing yet it's a complex flight model with effects of inertia and limited thrust.
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Armadillo Tank posted:http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39191064 Wow this seems oddly familiar. Especially the part about them threatening news outlets that report negative news...
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Thoatse posted:Also, what passes for flight in Star Citizen is a 6dof shooter with spaceship skins complete with boost strafe doge mechanic and full blown mouse aim. After CiG tapped the sim whales early (40-60mil?) they moved on to the mainstream/twitch crowd and hypermarketed mutually exclusive core concepts to a huge group of people that have since supplanted the original backers.. cig's fence straddling is for obvious reasons but most of the veterans of the controls Katamari (predates the concern forum for gulag) called it years ago and have been proven right. This is one of the best "Crysis jeeps with noclip" feeling demonstration i have ever seen. Anyone who pretend SC has a complex flight model should be laughed at.
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Ol Cactus Dick posted:Ship hats They're using Cryengine, not Gamebryo. …although I suppose that's really more of a case of hat ships.
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TheAgent posted:drat no mans sky is kinda killing it with the latest update Oh wow, now it's boring as gently caress but with ~jeeps~ 
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Foo Diddley posted:Oh wow, now it's boring as gently caress but with ~jeeps~
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TheAgent posted:all games are boring as gently caress
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BOUNTY HUNT | Star Citizen Alpha 2.6.1 | Part 378 (Star Citizen 2017 PC Gameplay) Beg to differ
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TheAgent posted:drat no mans sky is kinda killing it with the latest update You bought No Man's Sky didn't you? lol
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Also, to clarify something that's been bothering me for a while, the coffee machine in their office is a 2 group La Marzocco Linea PB espresso machine. They're toward the higher end of the market, but you can get a brand new one in the UK for about £8500 (including VAT) or just over $10,000. Where this 20k figure came from I have no idea.
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