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Lt. Tanaka posted:why you have devoted so many insulting posts devoid of any critical thinking or informative content hey sorry for stooping to the level of the hellthread ok?
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King Vidiot posted:Uh oh, looks like this Terry is gettin' froggy. make america drax dem sklounst again!
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Moridin920 posted:You're really just illustrating the fundamental difference between right wing and left wing imo; the right wing seem to literally not care about anyone beyond their immediate circle of people and gently caress everyone else as long as their circle is being taken care of and provided for. It's a beautiful thing to have empathy for the entire world and its inhabitants but how do you go about convincing a citizen living in a demolished Rust Belt state that they should continue voting against their own best interests by supporting presidents that pass trade agreements like NAFTA and the TPP?
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Fog Tripper posted:Correlation != Causation. Then what was the point of the question? "5 pages" lol
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Mar 9, 2017 20:50
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Lt. Tanaka posted:but how do you go about convincing a citizen living in a demolished Rust Belt state that they should continue voting against their own best interests by supporting presidents that pass trade agreements like NAFTA and the TPP? couldn't they just vote Bernie?
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Mar 9, 2017 20:52
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Lt. Tanaka posted:It's a beautiful thing to have empathy for the entire world and its inhabitants but how do you go about convincing a citizen living in a demolished Rust Belt state that they should continue voting against their own best interests by supporting presidents that pass trade agreements like NAFTA and the TPP? That wasn't a "that means you should have voted Hillary" thing, that was a "how are you insisting no one is affected by Trump's policies?" thing Both parties suck, neither represents the people, we need a revolution of some kind. Arguing against Trump is not automatically support for Hillary. A rising tide lifts all boats and a hosed up demolished Rust Belt worker has more in common with some schmuck laborer getting paid $1/day in SE Asia than he does with any American millionaire/billionaire. SpaceGoatFarts posted:couldn't they just vote Bernie? or that Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Mar 9, 2017 |
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Mar 9, 2017 20:54
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T.S. Smelliot posted:Of course he would he just won't be honest with himself about it that's why he identifies as a leftist Aren't you the guy who is so afraid of marijuana that you want to keep imprisoning and using browns as slave labor for touching it?
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Mar 9, 2017 21:11
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:It should be regulated by us in our own backyard, yes So getting rid of the regulations in places to protect us is actually a super brilliant 438957348915732984th dimensional chess move by Trump to help the environment because
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Mar 9, 2017 21:15
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Remember when clinton said she wanted to be like merkel? http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/777152/migrant-crisis-female-refugees-raped-beaten-pimped-out
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Mar 9, 2017 21:23
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Mordor She Wrote posted:So getting rid of the regulations in places to protect us is actually a super brilliant 438957348915732984th dimensional chess move by Trump to help the environment because "because since the government is evil, the regulations in place are actually bad for you (and for business) and must be destroyed, especially those from evil Obama" ~ some orange guy who really wants to protect and help Americans by helping big business
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Mar 9, 2017 21:24
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afeelgoodpoop posted:Remember when clinton said she wanted to be like merkel? What's Trump's strategy regarding refugee camps? Closing his eyes and pretending they don't exist? Genuinely curious if has any plan to solve this
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Mar 9, 2017 21:28
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SpaceGoatFarts posted:What's Trump's strategy regarding refugee camps? Closing his eyes and pretending they don't exist? Genuinely curious if has any plan to solve this "If they're not here getting rape in sub human conditions, then I have the moral high ground" -Trump
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SpaceGoatFarts posted:What's Trump's strategy regarding refugee camps? Closing his eyes and pretending they don't exist? Genuinely curious if has any plan to solve this
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Mar 9, 2017 21:41
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Rangpur posted:Since the article is about France, I assume he doesn't care. Do you mean in general? If they start popping up in the US, he'll probably take a page from Australia's playbook and move them all offshore while making it illegal for the press to report on conditions there. Horrible conditions in refugee camps is one of many reasons why it's usually better to integrate them, thereby gaining new productive members of society. inb4 Spunky and Smelliot say something about rapefugees and "r borders"
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Mar 9, 2017 21:44
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Mordor She Wrote posted:So getting rid of the regulations in places to protect us is actually a super brilliant 438957348915732984th dimensional chess move by Trump to help the environment because Some regulations here are better than no regulations overseas? Maybe once we get the factories back we can work on making them cleaner? Instead of just dumping garbage on the 3rd world
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Mar 9, 2017 21:48
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SpaceGoatFarts posted:What's Trump's strategy regarding refugee camps? Closing his eyes and pretending they don't exist? Genuinely curious if has any plan to solve this it sounds like a french problem so idk rename french fries to freedom fries again at the capitol cafeteria
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Mar 9, 2017 21:48
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If a rape happens and no white Europeans are around, does it make a sound? Does it even happen?
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Mar 9, 2017 21:48
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Maybe once we get the factories back we can work on making them cleaner? sounds like you're suggesting that we govern (regulate, perhaps) the function of these factories to some degree? interesting, interesting...
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Mar 9, 2017 21:51
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Some regulations here are better than no regulations overseas? Maybe once we get the factories back we can work on making them cleaner? Instead of just dumping garbage on the 3rd world Yes..the person who voted to repeal not dumping toxic waste in water, is going to totally use this as a feint to bring back factories and make them environmentally friendly, instead of just loving everything up here, you're totally not grasping at straws to justify your boner for Trump.
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Mordor She Wrote posted:Yes..the person who voted to repeal not dumping toxic waste in water, is going to totally use this as a feint to bring back factories and make them environmentally friendly, instead of just loving everything up here, you're totally not grasping at straws to justify your boner for Trump. Dude, he's not going to be president forever. If what it takes to get production back is some regulation decrease, it's better that way than just having no control over it whatsoever.
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Mar 9, 2017 21:53
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Dude, he's not going to be president forever. If what it takes to get production back is some regulation decrease, it's better that way than just having no control over it whatsoever. "Look your only going to have deal with like, what, 8 years of toxic waste being dumped into the environment, destroying drinking water, watersheds, and the rest of the environment, maybe in 8 years a not literal retard will get elected and roll that back, didn't you think of that" I mean, it's a brilliant plan obviously.
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Mar 9, 2017 21:55
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whats going to stop them from just leaving again when you spring the old environmental regulations that drove them out in the first place
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Mar 9, 2017 21:57
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All great questions. All I know is that at this current juncture, all we do is cause factories to move overseas to exploit slaves and resources. Trump at least had a plan to get the factories back. I didn't hear anything better at the time.
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Mar 9, 2017 21:59
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Kjoery posted:whats going to stop them from just leaving again when you spring the old environmental regulations that drove them out in the first place Everyone will have learned their lesson and rampant consumerism will end, in this extremely capitalist economy that requires it to function and that I have no interest in changing  -Spunky
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Maybe if Hillary stopped saying "everything is good and chill, I'ma keep things good and chill" while people could barely afford to get the bills paid and keep gas in the tank while millennial 20 something year old trust fund babies are being given billions and billions of dollars for dubious 'unicorn' start up techs from wall street fat cats with so much capital they have nothing to do with it but gamble it away on TWTR and SNAP and Theranos snort coke all day long then people would have voted for her makes you think. Maybe if she paid even token lip service to the working class instead of going "lol Fed says we're at full employment job market is great you guys! NASDAQ record highs!" Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Mar 9, 2017 |
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Mar 9, 2017 22:01
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:All great questions. All I know is that at this current juncture, all we do is cause factories to move overseas to exploit slaves and resources. Trump at least had a plan to get the factories back. I didn't hear anything better at the time. cool, trump will bring slave jobs back!
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Mar 9, 2017 22:04
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Mordor She Wrote posted:"Look your only going to have deal with like, what, 8 years of toxic waste being dumped into the environment, destroying drinking water, watersheds, and the rest of the environment, maybe in 8 years a not literal retard will get elected and roll that back, didn't you think of that" Yes those regulations did wonders to prevent the Colorado EPA spill and Flint water crisis.
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:All great questions. All I know is that at this current juncture, all we do is cause factories to move overseas to exploit slaves and resources. Trump at least had a plan to get the factories back. I didn't hear anything better at the time. vvvv this entire conversation has been re: environmental regulations dude crime weed fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Mar 9, 2017 |
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Mar 9, 2017 22:05
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Spunky obv (imo I guess) meant the nixing of trade deals and protectionist tariff stuff he was talking about, versus Hillary who said nothing but "TPP is good." Voters don't usually care about the environment when they are worried about putting food on the table.
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Mar 9, 2017 22:06
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Krustic posted:Yes those regulations did wonders to prevent the Colorado EPA spill and Flint water crisis. oh wait
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Mar 9, 2017 22:06
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Kjoery posted:removing sufficient regulations in order to make the US comparable to the 3rd world in terms of environmental and worker protections is indeed a plan that a person can have, yes Has the EPA been disbanded? Has slavery been legalized?
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Has the EPA been disbanded? Has slavery been legalized? just wait
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Has the EPA been disbanded? Has slavery been legalized?
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We are arguing abstractions here. It would be better if there were concrete details and actual regulations to discuss.
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Mar 9, 2017 22:10
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Has the EPA been disbanded? Has slavery been legalized? Well Private Prisons are back on the menu and they pretty much treat their prisoners like slave labor
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I'ma just say that Germany has fairly strict environmental regulations and it doesn't seem to have hurt their manufacturing industry whatsoever, which is one of (of not the) strongest manufacturing industries in Europe. Many of your iPhone bits are made in Deutschland then sent to China just for assembly, for example. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Mar 9, 2017 |
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Mar 9, 2017 22:12
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Ok great, I think everyone would agree nice clean factories and strong manufacturing is ideal. Lets aim for that
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Mar 9, 2017 22:14
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Ok great, I think everyone would agree nice clean factories and strong manufacturing is ideal. Lets aim for that I feel like you guys aren't even disagreeing really and you're being accused of using the "we gotta nix regulations in order to attract factories" talking point which... you aren't? All you said was at least Trump had some plan to appeal to workers whereas Hillary had literally nothing.
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Mar 9, 2017 22:15
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:We are arguing abstractions here. It would be better if there were concrete details and actual regulations to discuss.
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Kjoery posted:if you want to claim that the plan to remove environmental regulations will bring back jobs, you'll need to supply evidence Did he say this though or is this something you're projecting onto his "at least Trump had a plan" comment? Cuz again I think he was obv referring to the nixing of the trade deals and renegotiation of trade and tariff comments Trump was talking about during the election.
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