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EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:Yeah it sounds like you just had a nice day with your Mom don't make it weird, dude. Yeah it was pretty nice I'm not complainin' idk I just remembered it when it came up in the thread, probably didn't need to post it but  Also she said that helicopter parent thing specifically because I was joking with her on the way over about "taking my mommy to a job interview" so she wanted to rib me on that 
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ate all the Oreos posted:After that we looked at apartments and she came in to the apartment office with me and we started talking to the leasing agent and she went I'D JUST LIKE YOU TO KNOW THAT I'M HIS MOTHER BUT I'M NOT HERE TO HELICOPTER PARENT I JUST WANTED TO SEE THE APARTMENTS thanks mom I had a landlord insist that I have a parent co-sign the lease because he didn't understand how I could not have a steady job but make $75k a year at 27. My mother was less than amused, and I don't think the guy was expecting the full mother in law treatment. I lived there for four years and he never dared raise my rent  Now that I think of it, I should have mom negotiate my salaries from now on. FrozenVent fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Mar 10, 2017 |
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Ashcans posted:I am not amazed that that happened, but I am kind of surprised it happened to someone who who is 29. I would have thought someone who was in their early twenties, just out of school, looking for their first job. But 29? Even if you have been in school a long time getting higher degrees you should have picked up self-sufficiency enough to keep your mom at home. Me too. Of course, it should raise the alarm bells that if they haven't managed to cut the cord by 29, then there is equally something wrong with the candidate. ate all the Oreos posted:After that we looked at apartments and she came in to the apartment office with me and we started talking to the leasing agent and she went I'D JUST LIKE YOU TO KNOW THAT I'M HIS MOTHER BUT I'M NOT HERE TO HELICOPTER PARENT I JUST WANTED TO SEE THE APARTMENTS thanks mom I took my same-sex-as-me friend on my apartment hunt since he knew the area and I did not. It took about 6 letting agencies before we realised that they were assuming that we were a couple. This was back in the bad old days when being gay wasn't cool. We had to start talking about all the chicks we had banged while in the letting agencies and suddenly they had a lot more properties to view.
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I don't have a ton of extremely bad interview stories, but some people are really bad at interviews/life: - We had someone start off the interview with some kind of weird negging / confidence ritual. He wouldn't sit until everyone from the panel stood up and walked around the table to go shake his outstretched hand. He opened with "I know you guys need me and I know that I have skills that you won't be able to find elsewhere. I want both of us to get a lot out of this relationship. I need more than the cap for this position pays, but I am willing to do it for much less than I am worth. I want us all to get what we want here. I am very flexible." - Had a guy show up to interview in a T-shirt and Blazer - One guy ended his interview with "Just to be cool, I'm trying to save up for a down-payment on a motorcycle and I'm really only looking to be here for like 3 or 4 months. Just to be honest and help you get your ducks in a row and prepare." - Had a person who clearly had a rehearsed speech in their head and would just robotically move to the next point and never even come close to addressing the question, but would end each mini-speech with a restatement of the question to try and tie it in ("... and that is what I think a good work/life balance is.") - Someone told us in their interview that their ex worked for the same agency, but didn't know what they did. Told us their ex's name and asked if they would have to work with him. Then told us a bunch of things "to watch out for" about the ex. - Had someone ask us if they track our internet browsing history and that he had another job he waiting to hear back from that did. He said that could be a deciding factor in whether he took this job or the other one. - Lots of people show up an hour or more late to their interview and pretend that nothing happened. - Someone asked if we had any better jobs available or opening soon in the interview.
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spog posted:I took my same-sex-as-me friend on my apartment hunt since he knew the area and I did not. It took about 6 letting agencies before we realised that they were assuming that we were a couple. This image is cracking me up, how did you work that into a conversation about renting an apartment? "Oh yeah, that corner looks like a great place to crush some puss." Or maybe more like "I'm looking for a place far away from my horrible ex-girlfriend."
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I don't have a ton of extremely bad interview stories, but some people are really bad at interviews/life: My favorite bad interviewee was a lady that failed the simple programming tests we give everyone (despite applying to be a programmer and claiming to know how to program) and then when we explained what was wrong she went "ohhh... wowww you guys are smaaaart" and we just kinda looked at each other and wished her luck because she's obviously gonna need it e: Actually this seems like it should be in its own thread because it's both funny and a derail, I don't really have any more content than that one (well also this other time that we got a straight-laced-seeming 50-something guy applicant and his picture on his linkedin was him in a leopard-print zentai suit and we couldn't stop laughing) so someone else should start it
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Mar 10, 2017 17:15
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ate all the Oreos posted:My favorite bad interviewee was a lady that failed the simple programming tests we give everyone (despite applying to be a programmer and claiming to know how to program) and then when we explained what was wrong she went "ohhh... wowww you guys are smaaaart" and we just kinda looked at each other and wished her luck because she's obviously gonna need it Wait no no no I am getting in on this before we close it down My old job was as a sort of weird hybrid of medical/pharmacy insurance authorizations. My supervisor had me help with interviews because at the time, the team consisted of me and I was obviously the SME. One candidate said she was very familiar with obtaining auths for medical plans daily but couldn't name three insurers she worked with regularly. Another had no questions other than "when can I start" Another wanted to talk about salary One of them had a resume on marbled, sparkly paper I left that position after 6 months (a year total with the org, they transferred me because they hired me for a position they didn't own, long story) when I wrote the loving process and was only making $16.80 and had worse benefits than I'd had in retail pharmacy but Jesus those people. BonerGhost fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Mar 10, 2017 |
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Mar 10, 2017 17:40
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NancyPants posted:Wait no no no I am getting in on this before we close it down Also, every person on the planet is "an 8 or a 9" out of 10 in excel. Everyone. Immediately followed up with, "Which formulas do you regularly use?" "All of them."
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Mar 10, 2017 17:41
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Also, every person on the planet is "an 8 or a 9" out of 10 in excel. "What is the purpose of a pivot table?" "What's a pivot table?" or "What handy automations have you written in VBA for common tasks you had to do?" "[blank stare]" My first real job out of school I got paid 50k/yr to essentially be an Excel jockey and 90% of that work was using pivot tables because people around me were too lazy/dumb to figure out that really simple but incredibly useful feature.
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Mar 10, 2017 17:49
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Guinness posted:"What is the purpose of a pivot table?" This is 50% of my job and the amount of time other people estimate it takes to make a pivot table is why I can post on SA regularly. "I need an analysis of this data. Can you do it in a week?" *Makes a pivot table, short report, and a new chart in 2 hours* *Turns it in 2 days later* "Wow, I have no idea how you manage to do this so fast! This table looks like it took forever!" Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Mar 10, 2017 |
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Mar 10, 2017 17:56
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Also, every person on the planet is "an 8 or a 9" out of 10 in excel. I like "Can you describe a project where you realized too late Excel wasn't the best tool, and why?" In my case it was "Because I was on cell BH5225, and I didn't have anything better."
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spog posted:I took my same-sex-as-me friend on my apartment hunt since he knew the area and I did not. It took about 6 letting agencies before we realised that they were assuming that we were a couple. From the /r/PF archives, searching with our favorite keyword, horses: https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/5ardb7/buying_house_because_of_pets/ posted:(First post here/please be gentle disclaimer! Also I'm so sorry in advance for the NOVEL; thank you guys so much for reading!) quote:No horse won't happen; I've kept him through some remarkably bad financial hardships, like "couldn't buy groceries, rented sleeping space on someone's couch in the ghetto in order to keep the horse taken care of" level of financial hardships, but it did a NUMBER on my credit/etc. and I was miserable, so obviously I'd rather not go down that road again now that I'm finally in a good stable adult place—I do appreciate the sentiment. And yes, renting a place close to whatever barn I end up settling on will have to be the plan if I cannot afford a house. It just means moving AGAIN, which I'd really really really rather not do unless I am moving into my new permanent home. I'm so sick of moving from apartment to apartment, I can't even put it into words.  my property values! .BWL is hating literally everything about nonrural life but living there anyway.
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Mar 10, 2017 18:33
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Is pet rent really a thing?
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Mar 10, 2017 18:35
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Randler posted:Is pet rent really a thing? In any city rental market, hell yes. I just had an apartment ask $300 pet fee and $40/mo pet rent for each of our 2 cats, so $600 + $80/mo in order to have 2 cats in the apartment. I haven't run into a rental yet that didn't charge pet rent.
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Mar 10, 2017 18:39
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Call it a pet fee if you like, I pay $15 a month "pet rent" for my cat. It's to cover any damages the animal might possibly inflict, as well as to deter too many people from having too many pets. For example dogs cost $60-$150 a month at my building depending on size, which is part of why there aren't many large dogs, and I am thankful for that as the first year I was here I lived under someone with one...and the person down the hall had one too and came over for doggy play dates.
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Mar 10, 2017 18:40
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Twerk from Home posted:In any city rental market, hell yes. I just had an apartment ask $300 pet fee and $40/mo pet rent for each of our 2 cats, so $600 + $80/mo in order to have 2 cats in the apartment. I've never been charged pet rent in California, Toronto, Montreal, or Ottawa. Just extra deposit.
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Mar 10, 2017 18:42
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Subjunctive posted:I've never been charged pet rent in California, Toronto, Montreal, or Ottawa. Just extra deposit. My building is supposed to be dog-free, but every unit must have an "anxiety dog" living in it based on all the dogs I see.
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Nail Rat posted:Call it a pet fee if you like, I pay $15 a month "pet rent" for my cat. It's to cover any damages the animal might possibly inflict, as well as to deter too many people from having too many pets. For example dogs cost $60-$150 a month at my building depending on size, which is part of why there aren't many large dogs, and I am thankful for that as the first year I was here I lived under someone with one...and the person down the hall had one too and came over for doggy play dates. Anyone who has pets on hardwood floors living over somebody is a monster My neighbor's cat skitters all over the goddamn place, usually at 3 in the morning
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Nail Rat posted:Call it a pet fee if you like, I pay $15 a month "pet rent" for my cat. It's to cover any damages the animal might possibly inflict, as well as to deter too many people from having too many pets. For example dogs cost $60-$150 a month at my building depending on size, which is part of why there aren't many large dogs, and I am thankful for that as the first year I was here I lived under someone with one...and the person down the hall had one too and came over for doggy play dates. I lived under an apartment with two dogs, that they kept out on the balcony basically 24/7. It made my balcony completely unusable (oh boy, it's raining dog piss again) and management refused to do anything about it. And that's the story of the last time I lived in an apartment. e: I guess at least they weren't running around the floors above us at night.
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I get that having animals is nice but why the gently caress do so many people feel entitled to having creatures in their home they can't afford to take care of? "This is how much it costs in time and money to have the animal." "Well I don't have that." "Guess you don't get to have the animal then."     
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I feel like I should bring my list of anti depressants and anti anxiety medications to my new apartment to show, yeah, while I don't need a dog prescribed to me that it greatly improves my quality of life and I'm not dicking them around. On the topic of rent, I am often blown away with how much people spend on rent. I always assumed people made way more money than I did to afford to live alone. Turns out they're just blowing like a 40% of their takehome on rent. Blinkman987 fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Mar 10, 2017 |
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Mar 10, 2017 19:03
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:- Had a guy show up to interview in a T-shirt and Blazer Assuming he also had on jeans and, socks, and shoes this sounds like California tech interview 101. Pet rent is a sham and you shouldn't pay it unless they write out not being able to take your regular deposit for pet damages until it's exceeded the pet rent amounts paid.
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Mar 10, 2017 19:04
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Pet rent is extremely common around here in Southern California, which is another reason people get a doctor's note saying that they need their pet for anxiety reasons since then the landlord can't charge more for the pet. Is not charging for the pet actually the case? I know that they have to make "reasonable accommodations" but why does that mean you can't charge extra for Mittens/Rover as long as it covers the cost of making the apartment not smell like cat/dog? Half the dogs in my complex bark like crazy whenever they see someone, I can't see that exactly calming someone. Haifisch posted:The subtle BWM current is that they're trying to make a backyard horse fit into a suburban area that's just going to get more built up over the years. That definitely won't backfire when the HOAs that don't care about horses suddenly have a critical mass of people concerned about She can get it called a "therapy horse" and that's that. There's a horse park near me (meaning a local park that has trails that are horse-friendly), and I almost never see guys riding horses. If it's a guy he's there with his wife/girlfriend ("We went to see John Wick 2 last weekend, now it's horse day.") It actually looks kind of relaxing.
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Blinkman987 posted:I feel like I should bring my list of anti depressants and anti anxiety medications to my new apartment to show, yeah, while I don't need a dog prescribed to me that it greatly improves my quality of life and I'm not dicking them around. No way. If you're entitled to an ESA you have the paperwork for it, plain and simple. Being on meds doesn't give them leeway with their bosses not to charge you applicable fees if it's a corporate place, and no resident has any obligation to show their landlord their meds or tell their medical conditions to justify an animal. You get the script for the animal as allowed by your jurisdiction and that's it. Otherwise you end up with a verbal agreement not to charge you rent for an animal you have, the dog pisses on the carpet, you move out, and they're charging you for cleaning/replacement and back pet rent and saying "what agreement? It says right here in the lease you have to pay pet rent and deposit."
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H110Hawk posted:Assuming he also had on jeans and, socks, and shoes this sounds like California tech interview 101. I too enjoy fighting with a property conglomerate in contractual arbitration and/or being reported to a collections agency for nonpayment of $15 a month fees
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H110Hawk posted:Assuming he also had on jeans and, socks, and shoes this sounds like California tech interview 101. Yes. Sound about right. And if a person dresses up too much, it's big negative points for "culture fit." I do have a story where my friend's dad was in a morning meeting with Ted Turner a few years back and Turner verbally berated a guy for coming in with a 5 o'clock shadow. Asked him if he had a hard night, was hungover, couldn't bother to shave. Turner was not loving around. He was fuming. And there is a well known game company on the East Coast where the President is known for once cutting an interviewee's tie off during the interview. Blinkman987 fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Mar 10, 2017 |
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Mar 10, 2017 19:16
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Blinkman987 posted:Yes. Sound about right. And if a person dresses up too much, it's big negative points for "culture fit." Gonna pretend you said west coast so I can imagine Gabe Newell frothing mad at some dude's tie
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ate all the Oreos posted:Gonna pretend you said west coast so I can imagine Gabe Newell frothing mad at some dude's tie West Coast: A team my husband was on mocked a guy for like 6 months because he was really loving good at his job but wore a suit to the interview. They all called him fancy pants and may have even made an alt smtp for it. BWM: A friend of mine sent me a message yesterday blaming me because she got the amazon prime trial - says she attempted to cancel it but it still charged her, i guess she didn't have 100 in her account because it over drafted her. "ITS YOUR FAULT FOR RECOMMENDING IT TO ME" jesus girl calm the gently caress down. Getting overdrafted for 100$ when I know she has a fairly well paying job and cheap rent (I helped her find the place) is mind blowing.
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ate all the Oreos posted:I too enjoy fighting with a property conglomerate in contractual arbitration and/or being reported to a collections agency for nonpayment of $15 a month fees We walked out of all those places and rented from a private landlord, getting more home for less money and sane terms. They get away with it because people pay it. Viva la revolution. 
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H110Hawk posted:We walked out of all those places and rented from a private landlord, getting more home for less money and sane terms. They get away with it because people pay it. Viva la revolution. Oh yeah shopping around is fine, it sounded more like you were saying to just stop paying it. Reminds me, a while back my apartment started tacking on a $10 a month fee for "common area water" and someone went around putting up posters all around the complex talking about how OUTRAGED he was and demanding that nobody pay the $10 a month because "you don't even use that water!!" Good luck fighting the man, buddy
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ate all the Oreos posted:Oh yeah shopping around is fine, it sounded more like you were saying to just stop paying it. Reminds me, a while back my apartment started tacking on a $10 a month fee for "common area water" and someone went around putting up posters all around the complex talking about how OUTRAGED he was and demanding that nobody pay the $10 a month because "you don't even use that water!!" Good luck fighting the man, buddy Yeah I am saying don't sign a contract agreeing to do something stupid, not that you should violate your stupid contract.
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Regarding pet rent, when we were looking at apartments in the Seattle area it varied from either a fixed monthly fee (around $20) to a non-refundable one time deposit of I think $100 or so. And we just have a simple cat. For BWL apartment living with pets, I met someone with two tiny Pomeranian-type dogs that get to share a studio apartment. Another person dealt with the issue of "owner works for 9 hours a day" by putting the dog in the bathroom and training it to poop in the tub. They seemed proud of themselves for this innovative solution.
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just last month I had a guy Skype in for an interview... from bed.
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oh and one of my husbands friends trained her cat to poop in the toilet that must be a fun one to explain to guests. "Please leave the lid up, Tiddles can't lift it himself"
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:oh and one of my husbands friends trained her cat to poop in the toilet If you can actually pull this off to make them do it reliably this is pretty genius.
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Guinness posted:If you can actually pull this off to make them do it reliably this is pretty genius. As the cats get older and weaker, they'll start falling in the toilet once in a while which is pretty horrible for them and they splash all over making a mess. My family has done it with 2 cats, but past 10 years old it gets iffy.
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monster on a stick posted:I've never needed a bird lawyer. Thankfully the American College of Equine Attorneys has me covered for horse law. In fact I think I may try to win a scholarship to their conference in Lexington KY by writing out an essay: I have a friend from school who is really into horses, an attorney, is a member of that group and I think has actually practiced Horse Law in real cases. I'll have to see if I can get any good stories out of him next alumni event.
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I have a bias in that I work with the ownership/management side of apartment complexes, but pet rent + pet deposits make a lot of sense because animals smell very strongly like animals and the apartment will smell that way and be worth less money unless it gets a deep, deep clean. Even if you own one cat in 2 Bedroom apartment, your place smells like a cat. I'm not saying it smells like ammonia and feces (though it might), but it definitely smells like a literal animal lives in there.
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Twerk from Home posted:As the cats get older and weaker, they'll start falling in the toilet once in a while which is pretty horrible for them and they splash all over making a mess. My family has done it with 2 cats, but past 10 years old it gets iffy. Someone needs to invent a tiny cat toilet that can be flushed with a paw.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:I have a bias in that I work with the ownership/management side of apartment complexes, but pet rent + pet deposits make a lot of sense because animals smell very strongly like animals and the apartment will smell that way and be worth less money unless it gets a deep, deep clean. No joke. The previous tenant had 3 dogs in one of my old apartments. It was a nice place, but even after a professional chemical cleaning, the carpet smelled like dog for over a year.
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