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HardDiskD posted:It got all digimon in here all of a sudden...  I think Digimon did it a bit better, tbh.
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Bydoless posted:What's with the pixellation on Ludicolo? Is it a scaling issue? The backsprite for Ludicolo they're using is this big  Terlard is this big  Of course they didn't keep the resolutions the same for their fakemon.
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Mar 10, 2017 22:42
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A Steel Dragon that's a backhoe? That's so stupid it's awesome; not to mention totally appealing to the inner child in me that still finds construction equipment cool. Please tell me it's going in your team.
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Mar 10, 2017 22:43
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Bydoless posted:What's with the pixellation on Ludicolo? Is it a scaling issue? It may be that, since the sprites it's getting from Black & White were 80x80 and just resized. It's also animated, so it might just be that frame looks awkward in isolation.
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Mar 10, 2017 22:47
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A lot of pokemon look dumb in this game, but I genuinely like that backhoe dragon thing.
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Mar 10, 2017 23:12
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That backhoe dragon is dumb and I love it to bits, I want twelve. Coconut crab isn't a terrible idea either.
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Mar 10, 2017 23:13
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Honestly the backhoe looks like something you would find in banjo kazooie, not pokemon. That said its pretty amazing, which makes it the singular bit ive liked so far
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Mar 10, 2017 23:17
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GeneX posted:That backhoe is the key to breaking this game in half As far as design goes I think that's actually not that bad of a move. It follows in the Dragon Quest tradition of "you wanna spend an hour or two farming the casino? Have a weapon that'll break the game then son" which lets the player breeze through the game if they want. Granted I wouldn't be surprised if they actually did this accidentally given how poorly balanced the game has been so far.
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Mar 10, 2017 23:27
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Fun fact: The Coconut crab is a real species. It's named that because it eats coconuts. Yes, that is a full-sized coconut.
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Mar 10, 2017 23:33
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That coconut crab  Arcade Rabbit posted:To finally answer this question, as someone who has lived in Hawai for a few years now and has several friends that have spent their whole lives here, general consensus is its fine. There are actually a lot of really cute references and nods to the culture that other players might miss, showing that they did put a good bit of effort in to things. I'm not speaking for everyone and I'll be someone somewhere is raising a fuss over it, but everyone I've personally talked to about it has had no issue and liked it a lot.
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Mar 10, 2017 23:46
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The coconut crab is honestly one of the better designs in this game. It's cute, simple, and generally alright. This loving backhoe, on the other hand, is extremely stupid. Like, I'm alright with the general idea but it needs some work. Like, swap out the treads with some legs? I love how stupid it is regardless.
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Mar 10, 2017 23:49
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I dig you, MEGAWEAPON.
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I like how in the discussion of the most digimon pokemon, genesect hasn't come up once.
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Tracton is the first design I actually love. I don't expect there are many other particularly endearing ones, but Tracton is ludicrous enough to be charming, and not as poorly designed as most of the others. it reminds me of when I made a fakemon that was a train. it was called Choochoo. I was 13 years old.
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Mar 11, 2017 00:04
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Kick out all of the other Pokemon, we need only MEGAWEAPON.
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Mar 11, 2017 00:07
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Lord Koth posted:Eh, plenty of people have a bad tendency to hoard their master ball indefinitely anyways - "But what if I need it later?" syndrome - so them forgoing the free one isn't really that bad on its own. Besides, real players want their team to match and catch everything they want to use in premium balls (or dusk). This seems like another case of Uranium designing around expert/obsessive/competitive-scene play, though? I don't have stats or anything to back it up, but I'd assume that, outside of the "has nightmares about shiny Beldum recoiling itself to death" crowd, most players are going to err on the side of "wasting" their Master Ball than hoarding it, and will probably feel grateful that they could just shortcut catching that legendary who broke 20 Ultras or whatever. It's kind of vestigial but it's still a nice quality-of-life tool for some players, so it feels like another possibly-inadvertent but casual-player-hostile design choice, especially since I'd lay money on Uranium having at least one lovely old-school "you get one chance, hope you brought enough Ultras or are ready to savescum" legendary fight. EDIT: Also, so this post isn't just game design fanfiction, Backhoe Dragon is pretty decent! I feel like "Pokemon design that's stupid in the MY ORIGINAL POKEMON BY DAVID, AGE 10 style" is a step up in design sensibility from "Pokemon design that's stupid because you just drew a lump with wings or a hat." Antivehicular fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Mar 11, 2017 |
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FoolyCharged posted:I like how in the discussion of the most digimon pokemon, genesect hasn't come up once. Genesect is basically cheating when it comes to that contest.
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Some Numbers posted:Holy poo poo, that dragon tank looks like the designer heard that Hydreigon was originally going to be a tank and got pissed off that GameFreak didn't do that, so they made THEIR OWN DRAGON TANK. There's a later pokemon that echoes this kind of mindset where he basically creates something he wished Gamefreak made (and probably thinks it looks better too)
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Mar 11, 2017 00:15
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I would like the coconut crab more if SM hadn't already added a coconut crab that's way better
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Its something really special how hard DRAGONTRACTOR fucks the game, Sheep will probably go over it in detail, so im not gonna say much,but its one of those things where if game freak made a pokemon like it in a real game, people will have thought they lost their goddamn minds.
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Mar 11, 2017 00:22
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Please tell me it has tractorbeams.
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Johnny Joestar posted:I would like the coconut crab more if SM hadn't already added a coconut crab that's way better  Mine's doing her job: OHKOing Arcanine. 
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gently caress that backhoe. gently caress that backhoe and it's stupid stats and too many resistances for a nonlegendary. Anyway. I genuinely like the coconut crab because it's a cute visual pun, and while it's not like actual Pokémon quality it's still pretty neat. My favorite designs aren't for a while (and one is only because of the name), but this one is up there.
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FoolyCharged posted:I like how in the discussion of the most digimon pokemon, genesect hasn't come up once. Genesect isn't a Digimon, just an ancient Egyptian Metal Gear.
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All hail our backhoe god. Cower for you are in the presence of the ultimate lifeform.
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YggiDee posted:Isn't Jynx also based somewhat on Japan's Ganguro fashion? Pretty much, yes (to both parts  ). Of course, when it came to America, our first association wasn't "oh, she's doing the Ganguro thing," it was "holy poo poo it's a loving golliwog." And, well, just because it wasn't meant to look like a racist caricature doesn't mean it doesn't, so now she's purple.As for events in the LP, I don't know many of the designs but Tracton looks awesome, and I look forward to seeing it wreck poo poo.
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Antivehicular posted:This seems like another case of Uranium designing around expert/obsessive/competitive-scene play, though? I don't have stats or anything to back it up, but I'd assume that, outside of the "has nightmares about shiny Beldum recoiling itself to death" crowd, most players are going to err on the side of "wasting" their Master Ball than hoarding it, and will probably feel grateful that they could just shortcut catching that legendary who broke 20 Ultras or whatever. It's kind of vestigial but it's still a nice quality-of-life tool for some players, so it feels like another possibly-inadvertent but casual-player-hostile design choice, especially since I'd lay money on Uranium having at least one lovely old-school "you get one chance, hope you brought enough Ultras or are ready to savescum" legendary fight. ...Actually, it was referencing how a lot of people playing JRPGs (or other games with consumables for that matter) have a bad habit of ending the game with an inventory full of very nice consumables of all varieties, because they never used them due to thinking they might need them more later. The master ball falls into the same category (at least for those not reading guides) because it's easy to fall into "but what if there's a pokemon even more annoying to catch later?" when considering using it. Admittedly, this is likely somewhat more of a problem for early teens onwards than children under ten. Not including the free master ball could possibly be argued as a bad gameplay choice, but it's not really something aimed at the expert/obsessive/competitive crowd.
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The backhoe is the best thing this game has offered so far.
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Lord Koth posted:Eh, plenty of people have a bad tendency to hoard their master ball indefinitely anyways - "But what if I need it later?" syndrome - so them forgoing the free one isn't really that bad on its own. Besides, real players want their team to match and catch everything they want to use in premium balls (or dusk). I try to have different balls for each, they look cooler  Also Backhoedragon is now our main pokeman. We must use him now and forever because he is a loving backhoedragon.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:
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Dr. Dos posted:The backhoe is the best thing this game has offered so far. Which isn't to say that it's dumb, because it is, but it's so dumb and ridiculous that it loops around to little-kid levels of awesome.
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Mar 11, 2017 01:01
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It has a bad sprite though. The gently caress is going on with the perspective?
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Edit: don't pocket post on your phone.
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Bullshit subtypes for Steel and Dragon are why I always endeavor to have at least one move of every type present on my team (I even managed it the past two gens, though both required some creativity to cover some gaps*). Bronzong was always the worst, you never knew if you'd need Fire or Ground until after you'd wasted a turn. I'd honestly say Steel/Psychic is worse than Steel/Dragon, but it might just be that Metagross and Bronzong are just massive pains in the rear end. *In Gen VII, Silvally's diverse TM compatibility fixed me right up, and in Gen VI, my Charizard's Hidden Power type was, conveniently, Ice, the one type I lacked.
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Zore posted:It has a bad sprite though. Yeah. As much as I like the idea of a goddamn backhoe Pokémon, the idea deserved a much better sprite than what it got. His face is alright as a batshit designs go, but his body is so plain that I can't help but feel disappointed in it. Also, the way the sprite is angled, I can't help but think it is the size of a small dog. Space Kablooey fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Mar 11, 2017 |
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now that I've tried thought about it some, the coconut crab line reminds me of robopon in how the sprites look it would probably be some junk boot-type, as well
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If Tractor Dragon is as good as everyone says it is, then it illustrates that the people that made this had no idea what they were doing. Even if you accept the idea that creating a Pokemon mod for obsessive try-hards is a good idea, making it so that one of the best Pokemon in this mod acquirable by an easily-gameable side activity that has nothing to do with the core gameplay sabotages that goal.
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Mar 11, 2017 02:18
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eh it was shity when the prize for Gen 1 slots was a friggin porygon so i'm okay with them upgrading it to something worthwhile course, the slots weren't available by the third gym so i guess its a wash
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also OFS never showed any stats so i'm assuming something is terrible about it
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mandatory lesbian posted:also OFS never showed any stats so i'm assuming something is terrible about it Terribly ridiculous. I can kinda see where they tried to balance it but they failed miserably.
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