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McTimmy posted:It did go down, actually. Yeah, I couldn't get to the website around 11pm.
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Phenotype posted:Eh, the other webcomic I read is Order of the Stick, so by that measure Erfworld updates like a clock. The point of his donation mechanics is to keep the comic running regularly, and to that end it works just fine, and I'm not too concerned about an update slightly after midnight. I do want him to keep the quality up and not feel compelled to ship whatever he's got because it's 10pm, and if he got burned by the site going down at the last minute, I can understand how he can't afford to randomly take that kind of financial hit -- it's their only source of income now. To be honest I have way less sympathy for the dude and his schedule after watching the growth of Kill Six Billion Demons, which also almost always updates twice a week with much more detailed art and only one person doing it. And without vast swaths of the comic being replaced with walls of text. And he shouldn't need an impetus like that to keep updating. Like okay, his commitment and work ethic are lovely so he needs to tie his revenue directly to actually releasing his poo poo on time. Fair enough but that's not a positive thing and it's weird to keep seeing him and other people try to spin it like it is.
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Mar 4, 2017 20:35
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Reene posted:I wonder if Parson saying "poo poo" instead of "boop" was intentional. He hasn't said "boop" since Book 1. It was a big plot beat, him throwing the sword into the lava and telling the world that he was done playing by its rules and that it could go gently caress itself.
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Mar 4, 2017 20:47
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Reene posted:To be honest I have way less sympathy for the dude and his schedule after watching the growth of Kill Six Billion Demons, which also almost always updates twice a week with much more detailed art and only one person doing it. And without vast swaths of the comic being replaced with walls of text. It doesn't take everyone the same amount of time to make art. I mean if you are going to go by that metric, everyone absolutely sucks because Minna Sundberg can pump out 4-5 heavily detailed comics a week. People have different skill levels, experience with certain art styles, etc and that's not a trivial thing. Mind you I don't know whether Xin is slow or Balder is a slow writer or whatever but just saying in general you can't really hold something like how quick it takes one artist to work and say everyone who can't meet that same pace must be lazy. Though I think if it becomes a huge issue you could always just stop reading the thing or check on it every few months or so.
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Mar 4, 2017 21:19
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he's gone through three art teams and the pace has always been glacial, he's just the George R R Martin of the webcomics world i.e. He's constantly plugging lots of other artists' work, makes tons of time to go to cons, and is still coasting by on his popularity despite his recent books showing a steady decline in quality from their height. Also he's slow as poo poo.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:he's just the George R R Martin of the webcomics world I'm pretty sure that's Aaron Diaz. It's fine to not like someone's rate of output or whatever. I just wouldn't use one or two extraordinary artists (like operant or Minna) as a benchmark all web-cartoonists are supposed to hit.
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Mar 4, 2017 22:56
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Erfworld is updating regularly twice a week; trying to compare that to George Martin or Aaron Diaz is an insane standard.
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Mar 4, 2017 23:10
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Donkringel posted:New update gave a lot to chew one. The biggest piece was actually Robs update excuse in the forums. In terms of protecting his revenue, all the updates that have been light on action but heavy on introspection are really where the comic suffers. It's easy to write a chunk of text narrating how someone feels about events, less so to express how they're feeling through action (much less advance the plot). Anyway. Pretty cool that Parson actually came clean about all the lies rather than holding out until the worst possible moment.
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Mar 4, 2017 23:15
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I don't get the complaints tbh. If anyone is really upset about the last one being a few minutes late on account of the site being down, then I assume they'll pull their support and go back to reading for free and that will be the end of it. Erfworld is still one of the most regularly updated of the comics I follow. And actually I prefer the text updates. The art isn't that amazing tbh, I'm here for the story, and these kinds of pages pack in a lot more information. I'm trying to figure out how many strips it would've taken to show everything that was covered here, panel by panel. The parts that involved characters' thoughts may not have even been possible. Zoe fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Mar 4, 2017 |
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Mar 4, 2017 23:38
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:he's gone through three art teams and the pace has always been glacial, he's just the George R R Martin of the webcomics world Go read Order of the Stick or Necropolis to get Martin levels of slow. Erfworld can reliably get at least one update a week, that's lightning speed compared to some of his peers. (Granted, both OotS and Necropolis are actually better works, but we're only talking speed here.)
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Yeah, I mean, this guy missed 1 or 2 updates over the Christmas break and was an hour late with this last one, otherwise he's been steadily doing 2 per week for at least the 6 months+ that I've been reading the regular updates. I know the comic had issues in the past, but sheesh, I think he's been pretty steady for a while now.
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Mar 5, 2017 00:59
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I find Caesar's characterisation a bit flawed in this update. He never struck me as the gullible type, and now he's buying everything Parson says because he admitted to lying about almost everything up till now? Bit too easy.
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Mar 5, 2017 01:57
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We aren't seeing his internal thoughts, so maybe he's just showing receptiveness. There's also the quality of truth. Among other things, Parson admitted he lied about the thing protecting him from being bloodsucked. That means he gave up a layer of personal security.
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Mar 5, 2017 02:30
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Erfworld hasn't had a unscheduled break in the update schedule in over a year. Hardly the GRRM of webcomics
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Mar 6, 2017 02:08
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I guess I'm just remembering back to the Bad Old Days of late book 1/book 2
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Mar 6, 2017 03:12
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I miss when the comic was on GiantITP with Jamie Noguchi drawing it.
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Mar 6, 2017 06:54
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That was absolutely the best period in terms of art and story. I loved Saline IV and I'm sad that they dropped the ambiguity of Parson's situation so completely.
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Jamie and Xin's styles are so different it's hard to compare directly, for me. I really like Xin's artist, and I'm glad she's back on the team.
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Rygar201 posted:Jamie and Xin's styles are so different it's hard to compare directly, for me. I really like Xin's artist, and I'm glad she's back on the team. They are both pretty talented artists, but yeah I think I prefer Xin's style as well.
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McTimmy posted:It did go down, actually. Well, I've put my foot in my mouth before. Speaking of which new update, done super soon! I really like the doll's surprised face. So obviously folks at the execution are obviously going to get croaked midway, while Parson and Co rescue the others. Who do you all think will live/die? My thoughts Lives: Lillith, one or two stabbers/archers, maybe Artemis. Dies: Boromir, the other Archons, maybe Artemis. Although I'm hoping Boromir survives and is allowed to rejoin his little hobbit buddy for GK brownie points, but I think that's wishful thinking on my end.
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I still couldn't say whether Wanda ends up dead at the end of all this.
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Phenotype posted:I still couldn't say whether Wanda ends up dead at the end of all this. Maybe she'll decrypt herself.
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Boromir is obviously going to die; he's a trademarked character drawn as a recognizable pastiche of a living actor. He's not going to become a major character. Lilith should live because she's awesome and I want to see more of her.
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Well, that's multiple wrenches (pun not intended) thrown into the works all at once. I wonder if Charlie has finally managed to form a coherent plan of action, or if he's still in the "hasty play in response to the most recent disaster" as he's seemed to be for a while now. I'm also curious how effective it was. Were any Thinkamancers killed in that collapse? How many? Are they effectively neutered, or merely seriously hindered and about to retaliate?
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Mar 10, 2017 13:17
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So if Charlie cuts the action figure loose and closes the portal down there on his end, how easy would it be to pin all this on GK?
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I really enjoyed seeing that an extended relationship with Charlie has taught Claud and Ivan to try to think the same way. But does intent automagically matter? Because if so, you'd think Charlie would have been dinged for giving Jillian the rifles.
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drat, Charlie doesn't play around. Maybe the GMTTA shouldn't have been so quick to turn on their best allies against him...
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I'm eager to see if enough Great Minds are left to pull that long-distance string sever attack. Losing that backburner omnipotence would make them freak out.Mniot posted:I really enjoyed seeing that an extended relationship with Charlie has taught Claud and Ivan to try to think the same way. But does intent automagically matter? Because if so, you'd think Charlie would have been dinged for giving Jillian the rifles. Proving intent for someone to benefit from a "mistake" you made would be much squirrellier than proving that you only attacked something "accidentally." The rifle hand-off being two distinct actions that weren't immediately related probably gave a huge loophole, too. The lesson in all of this is don't make agreements with Charlie and expect him to actually be bound by them. It's a shame Parson can't let Benjamin read the contract; dude's as much of a lawyer as Charlie. ArgumentatumE.C.T. fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Mar 11, 2017 |
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Yeah they're kinda saying contract cheating is basically carnymancying yourself into thinking you aren't breaking the contract, and Charlie is a master carnymancer.
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ArgumentatumE.C.T. posted:I'm eager to see if enough Great Minds are left to pull that long-distance string sever attack. Losing that backburner omnipotence would make them freak out. They've already lost that for years and years, though. They can't be that attached to it, especially given that they only ever used it the one time that we know of.
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This is absolutely getting pinned on the two Decrypted casters who are about to pop up from the bedrock, holding the Wonky Wrench.
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On the other hand there's now a large number of powerful thinkamancers just waiting to be decrypted.
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Taerkar posted:On the other hand there's now a large number of powerful thinkamancers just waiting to be decrypted. They'll really be loyal this time.
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ArgumentatumE.C.T. posted:I'm eager to see if enough Great Minds are left to pull that long-distance string sever attack. Losing that backburner omnipotence would make them freak out. No I think it's worse than that. If the Great Minds were all linked up in a conference when this happened, any of the survivors would be crippled by the mental backlash from having the link forcibly broken. Looking at how Sagan is acting here, it's very likely that most if not all of them are just gone.
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Yeah that definitely looks like link backlash. Same weirdly disjointed quasi-poetic speech, same grey-washed skin. I wonder which fate is worse if you're a Great Mind, death or that.
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Zoe posted:This is absolutely getting pinned on the two Decrypted casters who are about to pop up from the bedrock, holding the Wonky Wrench. Ah crap, yea that's gonna be what happens.
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Well now there's no one to object to Bunny being decrypted.
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Pretty bleak, Marie. Wonder if this is universal among predictamancers or if it's more to do with her having been popped in absurdly-pacifist Faq.
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I think it's kind of a duel meaning. Not every battle is worth sending a predictimancer to but also not every battle has a firm enough fate to get any use out of sending a predictimancer to it.
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It's also important to take this in the context of Marie being part of the conspiracy to end war, so she's not necessarily approving of the fact even as she describes it. I wound up subscribing to their support Patreon. Most of the bonus features are pants, but having a high-resolution version of the comic is pretty nice.
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